Wild camping isn't the issue if its proper. I know someone who's idea of wild camping is 4man tent, bbq, coolers for beer etc.
Isn't this why it's specifically a no-no. Some of these "wild" camp areas are packed to the gunnels in good weather and remember back at the start it was stoating.
Another point that doesn't help proper wild camping is that it doesn't directly support jobs, so it could be seen as risk without benefit. Pubs etc provide work. Proper wild camping, away from roads, is as low risk as not leaving the house, but allowing it will be green light for the crowds by the roadside.
We’re aiming for Anoach Eagach tomorrow, I’m suspecting it won’t be empty…
Aye, Glencoe will be hoaching as ever. Booked a B&B last night to go and do Aonach Eagach next month, struggled to get accommodation - which will be the standard for a while I suspect.
Calmac going from a 2 week rolling booking to 4 weeks this morning, and 1m distancing meaning a lot more capacity too.
Good spot Nobeer keyboard at the ready for islay ferry bookings!
Best of luck OTS.
waiting for ticketing.calmac.co.uk...................
If ever there was a case for serverless
F5 finger sharpened.....
Halfway through the booking process 😬
Unfortunately idiots roadside camping have caused huge issues a d that has led to this
It's the problem with broad guidelines not fitting with specific minority situations
Booked!
It’s the problem with broad guidelines not fitting with specific minority situations
More that our society thinks rules apply to everyone bar them so f them all and I will do what I Want. Amplified by our leaders doing exactly that with no repurcussions.
Go wild camping, honestly, you'll be doing no harm and impacting no-one just apply usual rules and be discreet.
Amplified by our leaders doing exactly that with no repurcussions.
Exhibit A
Unfortunately idiots roadside camping have caused huge issues and that has led to this
Agreed
It’s the problem with broad guidelines
The broad guidelines are pretty clear that roadside camping isn't included, but the lack of any action against it has led people to think it is.
Exhibit A
She's not a leader, same as Chris Whitty isn't a leader, nor is Dom Cum, and there weren't exactly no repercussions, she lost her job.
Nobeer - that's what I was meaning. There were repercussions. Unlike for DomCum.
Apologies, read you wrong fella.
Go wild camping, honestly, you’ll be doing no harm and impacting no-one just apply usual rules and be discreet.
Yeah,this since it was OK to drive to Berwick to visit relatives.
Matt and Nobeer, one way of getting to the start of the A-E if you aren't doing two cars is by taxi,only cost £10 from the Pap carpark to the Am Bodach carpark last Summer. You might also be lucky and avoid hearing the bloody piper in the main carpark playing the three tunes he knows for the length of the ridge. Clearing late am for Matt, enjoy! Oh; and the Cromarty pils was affy nice in the Clachaig on Thursday.
All thru this I have been struggling with the difference between the letter of the rules, the spirit of the rules and a sensible risk assessment.
Its amplified by the fact that at work in the hospital any attempt at social distancing is basically impossible and ( bar perhaps going into supermarkets) work is the most risky thing I do.
I am however prepared to wit until next week to go wild camping. Perhaps its a bit " holier than thou" and perhaps its a bit " as a healthcare worker I should be setting an example"
I have tried to stick within the letter of the rules but not succeeded 100%
Do you think the racist protesters at the border will affect anything or have they all gone now?
Racist? go on educate me as to why they are being racist.
Numpties yes
TJ feel free to educate yourself if you dont believe they are racists, fortunately that's not my job.
Looking at the numbers of cases, deaths etc we seem to have been consistently running at around 1% of the UK numbers (despite having around 10% of the population) for weeks now. I’m sure the reasons for this are complex
Probably a lot to do with demographics, areas with large numbers of multigenerational households, HMO's , certain industry types etc seem to have the peaks,
In addition the local authorities probably have better data, it is beginning to appear that the reason why the local data is crap in England is so journalists can't reverse engineer the national numbers to point out the bollox that has been spread. PHE needs to be canned as incompetent, local heads of public health probably waiting to castigate PHE in the inquiry
superscale - you made the spurious allegation based on goodness knows what
Its up to you to explain it. I understand racism I don't think you do if you think they were being racist
What waving saltires & dressed in a tabard with the Lion Rampant? Just concerned health professionals.
TJ even the Scottish Justice Minister called it for what it was racist, if you cant see it I certainly dont need to explain it to you. Try Google.
As I said - numpties yes but nothing racist there.
YOu are the one who needs to understand racism not call it in ignorance. BY doing so you devalue anti racist actions.
Me and the Scottish Justice Minister.
TJ - you really need to learn to recognise Trolling. You've been on here long enough to know better.
So, a Minister saying something is now the definition of truth? We are doomed. I need help with this too, I thought Scots was a nationality not a race? Unless they mean gingers I guess.
*Doffs cap to scotroutes*
Scots lives matter dude
TJ - if you take the definition of race discrimination in the Race Relations Act (which subsequently has been absorbed into the Equality Act) then treating someone differently because of their national origin is racism. The courts have tested this and antienglish/Scottish/welsh/Irish behaviour is considered to be both racist in terms of discrimination (eg employment) and as an aggravating factor for other crimes.
I've just booked a (emergency*) return trip to Stornoway on Calmac next weekend. No hassle or delay.
* Mother in Law is fading fast.
Not so good, Best of luck Scotroutes.
Best of luck Scotroutes. Never an easy thing.
Maybe I missed something but I didn't see anything targeting anyone for their national origin. There were english people now resident in Scotland on the demo. It's not racist to say that coronavirus is more common in England than Scotland, any more than it'd be racist for a new zealand resident to be concerned about possible risks from scottish visitors.
Not that I approve, I thought it was pretty ugly regardless, just that unless you know more than I've seen in the press it wasn't racist.
Thats the point Northwind. Glad I'm not the only one.
Scotoutes is also right tho - don't feed the trolls
We've just had our booking for a holiday cottage near Ullapool cancelled.
Apparently there's a lot of hostility towards tourists, up to and including vandalism of holiday cottages.
Nice. Stay classy Scotland.
To be honest, it's just as well - looking at the current infection rates, Cambridgeshire is a good deal less infected than the Highlands, so I'm quite relieved we're not going to the plague lands.
https://covid.joinzoe.com/data#interactive-map
To be honest, it’s just as well – looking at the current infection rates, Cambridgeshire is a good deal less infected than the Highlands, so I’m quite relieved we’re not going to the plague lands.
Highland has only had 377 confirmed cases since the start and it's been sitting on or about that for ages. Not sure how that map is calulating their data but I'd question it on that basis.
As for ill feeling towards tourists there's a bit of that but it's a minority, not all covid related and definitely not something Scotland has a monopoly on.
Apparently there’s a lot of hostility towards tourists, up to and including vandalism of holiday cottages.
That surprises me having moved from nearby to Ullapool a few months ago. Where did you get that info?
If true it seems a bit of cutting off your nose to spite your face, as I would think they would be desperate for tourists. Mind you there are dickheads everywhere.
Best of luck to you and yours Scotroutes. Horrible situation to be in.
Where did you get that info?
From the owners of the cottage, they cancelled on us.
We've booked somewhere else near Fort William, perhaps that will work out better.
Northwind,
I was only responding to the “Scots are not a race”. I paid little attention to the handful of nutters at the border but I’d be surprised if they were not motivated by some bizarre anti-English sentiment as the image I saw was only aimed at those coming FROM England not the “Scottish” heading south to get infected and bring it home.
FWIW I’ve seen it suggested that this particular group are almost cajoled into these antics by the media and were the same in 2014...
Surgeon refusing to rule out some kind of English quarentine and is accused of trying to make things political... strikes me the only people that are trying to score political points are the people who are criticising her. She's not suggesting anything that other countries (us, aus etc) are already doing.
And I say that as someone who had never voted for the snp and didn't vote for independence.
We’ve booked somewhere else near Fort William, perhaps that will work out better.
Should do. Clyping on accommodation providers (who invariably were only hosting key workers) has all but stopped, and I haven’t seen any negative comments on all the Facebook posts from them about reopening and welcoming people back.
