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My point was that nobody in Government either national or local were giving any hint that this was a likelihood for August 11th. Unusual for me to have much sympathy for local school management but in this case they have my support.
There has been a dramatic change in policy and I would like to understand the reason why.


 
Posted : 25/06/2020 1:28 pm
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Poly, you basically seem to be agreeing with me in the content of your post whilst adopting a tone of disagreement.

I was pointing out was that schools knew nothing of this prior to the announcement, something you seemed to be disputing. I also agree that they had no choice but to carry on planning.

As for change, that happens all the time. The infuriating thing in this situation is that the time spent planning for blended learning could have been spent doing things that would have benefited pupils now. But as I also pointed out above we need to accept that things are going to change around this.

I can only assume that teachers don’t normally experience the levels of significant rapid change that the rest of us do.

Why is it that so many people seem incapable of having a discussion about education without it degenerating into broad generalisations about/criticisms of the profession? To quote Billy Connolly I wouldn't come into your work and tell you how to sweep the floor. 🙂


 
Posted : 25/06/2020 1:37 pm
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Why is it that so many people seem incapable of having a discussion about education without it degenerating into broad generalisations about/criticisms of the profession?

Perhaps because that very statement is an example of the sort of exceptionalism many teachers exhibit. Can you actually think of any profession which doesn't come in for the same sort of criticism? 😊


 
Posted : 25/06/2020 1:41 pm
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Burnbob, I maybe did work harder, and certainly differently, but it wasn't "terrible". My holidays haven't been extended, they've been cut, but you are correct that the contingency in place is a good thing.

If you think you are jealous of my terms and conditions, I suggest you retrain, or at least volunteer at a local school - they'll be glad of the help. Then you'll be able to comment from an informed position. Please report back how you get on.


 
Posted : 25/06/2020 1:43 pm
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Perhaps because that very statement is an example of the sort of exceptionalism many teachers exhibit. Can you actually think of any profession which doesn’t come in for the same sort of criticism?

Nursing?

Personally, I try not to make that kind of generalisation about professions, that seems like a better starting point for discussions. I also don't believe teaching is unique in terms of stresses/strains/pressures like some teachers would like you to believe.


 
Posted : 25/06/2020 1:44 pm
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To quote Billy Connolly I wouldn’t come into your work and tell you how to sweep the floor.

Maybe it's the looking down from upon high from some teachers that doesn't help, really.....

I'm generally really happy with my daughters teachers tbh, had nothing but good experiences up until now - she's just going into 3rd year, and I don't fancy the job tbh! I can see both sides of the education argument though something I think disgruntled parents and some teachers can't.

University lecturers? now that's a different kettle of fish altogether! 🙂


 
Posted : 25/06/2020 1:46 pm
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Maybe it’s the looking down from upon high from some teachers that doesn’t help, really

That and the martyrs to the profession who would have you believe it's the toughest job in the world certainly don't do us any favours.


 
Posted : 25/06/2020 1:50 pm
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Nursing?

Meh. Think you're clever now?

My Mrs has a go at nurses. But she's an ex-nurse.


 
Posted : 25/06/2020 1:51 pm
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Nurses are certainly getting better press at the moment, but I can assure any teachers, the abuse my mrs gets as a nurse is no better than teachers get from arsehole parents!.


 
Posted : 25/06/2020 1:54 pm
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Anyway, the BIG question is.... do I tax the motorbike now and take it out for the first time this year? I can "visit" metalheart in his Black Isle garden. Or do I wait until July and save a month's worth of road tax - by which time its probably pissing down?

Edit: Whoop, whoop. 1,000 posts. Is that a sign?


 
Posted : 25/06/2020 1:55 pm
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Strike while the asphalt is hot!


 
Posted : 25/06/2020 1:57 pm
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University lecturers? now that’s a different kettle of fish altogether! 🙂

The Mrs lectures at RGU she's part time but has been doing stupid hours to change the lectures to online instead of face to face and is now marking. Like her I'll be glad in a weeks time when shes done.


 
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Whoop, whoop. 1,000 posts. Is that a sign?

No. It's da sound of da police.


 
Posted : 25/06/2020 4:07 pm
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Or do I wait until July and save a month’s worth of road tax – by which time its probably pissing down?

looks like its going to be pissing down from today. bang goes my planned ride for the 4th of July 🙁


 
Posted : 25/06/2020 4:46 pm
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29C at Loch Morlich today. Guess who forgot to take the insulated liner out of his motorbike jacket?

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Posted : 25/06/2020 5:53 pm
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Man up poah, it's only mud.


 
Posted : 25/06/2020 5:56 pm
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Poly, you basically seem to be agreeing with me in the content of your post whilst adopting a tone of disagreement.

I'm not sure what you think was agreeing - the whole country got the hint from Nicola about 10 days before the official announcement...

I was pointing out was that schools knew nothing of this prior to the announcement,

OK - but do you honestly think that if the Cabinet Secretary had said on the 14th June, "hey head teachers just a wee heads up we might not need all this stuff you've been planning" that 1. You'd all have kept planning for the worst anyway; 2. The people who were told to keep it to themselves would have not let it slip - then the decision would be in the media before it was announced which is government by chaos.

Why is it that so many people seem incapable of having a discussion about education without it degenerating into broad generalisations about/criticisms of the profession?

. Yeah sorry I didnt mean all teachers. I just meant the ones on STW moaning (during the school day;-)) about changes meaning their contingency planning wasn't needed after-all. As I said welcome to the world that many of us work in all the time - be grateful that normally your work is so highly valued that nobody every ignores your best efforts.


 
Posted : 25/06/2020 6:32 pm
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looks like its going to be pissing down from today. bang goes my planned ride for the 4th of July 🙁

What do you do every other summer?

Right now it's too bloody hot to ride, could barely winch myself back up the hill


 
Posted : 25/06/2020 6:32 pm
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What do you do every other summer?

didn't ride my bike last summer. Not been away on a trail properly for a year.


 
Posted : 25/06/2020 7:04 pm
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@Scotroutes, your bike must be the last carbed SV in the world with a stock rear mudguard. Which makes the woodcraft engine cover seem even weirder. Nice choice though!


 
Posted : 25/06/2020 9:53 pm
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your bike must be the last carbed SV in the world with a stock rear mudguard.

🙂

Aye,was just thinking that,nice choice of bike and colour though.


 
Posted : 25/06/2020 10:00 pm
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Which makes the woodcraft engine cover seem even weirder.

I had the leaky clutch cover and this was the simplest fix.

I've looked at the rear mudguard keenly more than once 🙂


 
Posted : 25/06/2020 10:04 pm
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If the number of cases in the community are as low as some of the estimates i’ve seen – 2000 active cases across the whole of Scotland, then the risk is pretty low. But a pub does seem like the best place to catch it.

Yes tbh, it's not really the immediate future that particularly concerns me, I think we've burned out this period, it's oct/nov/dec that I think is the real concern and complacency really sets in.

Who knows, but we do need to open up and see what happens, eh.. just hope the brakes work if we need them.


 
Posted : 26/06/2020 12:30 am
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Yesterday's Edinburgh and East Lothian Beach Report:

Lunchtime
Porty: Bit of a chilly breeze. Busy, but not too busy
John Muir Trail and associated bits out to Seton: Few folks around enjoying the weather, still a touch of nip in the breeze.
The Bents - not sure, just cycled past. No breeze - pure melting/splunging
Green Craigs just before Aberlday - great wee beach, quite well hidden away and not accessible by car. Just me, my pal and a couple of families and a wonderful Daschund called Seb. Absolutely sweltering! Had a great couple of hours of sunbathing and swimming/floating about with a tinnie.

Evening:
Everywhere was still roasting at 7/8pm as we cycled back into town.
Musselburgh harbour/high street - absolutely hoaching! Mostly small groups though some big bunches of the young. In general there was much screeching!
Porty - I expected that to be a disaster zone, but actually it was decent. It was busy and some folk were a bit steaming but nothing too intense. Great to see folk kayaking and in swimming at 9pm.

Overall, a belter of a day that made me well happy.


 
Posted : 26/06/2020 7:09 am
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What’s with all the rubbish ? I was out late last night doing a bit of a walk and collected a black bags worth of sh1te in about 100m near Bonaly. Have people just decided that when the suns out they can leave their rubbish where they want - it’s awful. The very large Bin with BIN written on it was about half full literally 100m from the worst of the mess.


 
Posted : 26/06/2020 8:11 am
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The Meadows was bad for that the other night.
Though while I was there a group of 40 year old-ish guys wandered off leaving all their empty cans behind. However they got called out for it and everyone around was chanting "pick up yer sh**te" while they sheepishly moped back to get them.


 
Posted : 26/06/2020 8:18 am
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With July 15th being the date where Scotland can open it's campsites, I was gutted to find out that the Glenmore campsite is staying closed till 2021! We had three bookings there for this year.

Amazingly today I've managed to secure a couple of nights at Loch Lomond followed by Skye and Loch Ness starting from July 15th. Not our usual choice of placed to go, but I'm just happy we've got something to look forward to. I can't wait. First time away in the camper this year!

We'll be trying our hardest to spend some money in the local areas. Will see what's open / pubs doing takeaways etc.

Anyone else got anything booked from July/August?


 
Posted : 26/06/2020 9:53 pm
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With July 15th being the date where Scotland can open it’s campsites, I was gutted to find out that the Glenmore campsite is staying closed till 2021! We had three bookings there for this year.

I’d not heard that and we have a seasonal pitch there. ☹️


 
Posted : 26/06/2020 10:12 pm
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Just spotted the same on Sligachan's site. Doh! I wonder if Glenbrittle will open.
Also spotted on airbnb a few days ago people trying to sell time in caravan at glenmore site starting on 15th July! In fact still there.


 
Posted : 26/06/2020 10:31 pm
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Yep Glenmore site closed all year now, odd decision. We had a week in August which May be moot as we might be about to buy a house there anyway , but have a week at Oakwood now anyway.


 
Posted : 26/06/2020 10:36 pm
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Glenmore is part of the Camping in the Forest group and they are all remaining closed for 2020.

https://www.campingintheforest.co.uk/


 
Posted : 26/06/2020 10:49 pm
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Adrenalin uplift showing available for booking from 3rd July - no mention of Covid , that I can see, on their page and running at full capacity. Really!?!


 
Posted : 28/06/2020 1:54 pm
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Why not?

Gordon isn't daft, he won't jeopardise his business by ignoring guidance. Sure, numbers on the buses will be down, masks probably for the journey, but people have been using buses, trains and taxis throughout this whole time.

I'll happily go, been meaning to try uplift at Ae for a whole now.


 
Posted : 28/06/2020 1:58 pm
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I was just about to go searching for this thread...

Scooting round Rothiemurchus and Glenmore areas yesterday afternoon and I was seeing lots of "family groups" who were obviously tourists. Holiday homes and second homes are already filling up. It's going to be carnage up at Loch Morlich with the campsite being closed too.

I also found some stuff on Twitter from Ullapool. A family (believed Scottish FWIW) "camping" at Inverlael and then Knockan Crag, fires, litter etc. Northern Police saying they were helpless to intervene. If that's the case, we are probably in for a few forest/heather fores over the next couple of months with trash everywhere.

I was looking forward to getting away in our campervan but I'm beginning to have my doubts if that's what we are going to encounter - though it seems like it'll be the same if we stay at home.


 
Posted : 28/06/2020 2:03 pm
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^^^^ Loch Morlich webcam has shown folks camping on the beach most nights for the past week too..


 
Posted : 28/06/2020 2:08 pm
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Why were the police powerless to intervene?


 
Posted : 28/06/2020 2:09 pm
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You'd have to ask them TJ.


 
Posted : 28/06/2020 2:10 pm
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Why were the police powerless to intervene?

Travellers?

Polis locally steer well clear when they decant around here. Don't blame them.


 
Posted : 28/06/2020 2:17 pm
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I’m assuming the toilets are all shut at Loch Morlich as well ? Will be nice to see how all the campers are managing their sanitation....🙄


 
Posted : 28/06/2020 2:17 pm
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BBC saying experts think scotland will be virtually covid free by end of summer. I struggle to see how that's possible given travel between us and England will still be happening, and let's be honest the English seem to have a far far worse handle on the situation than us..

Time to rebuild Hadrians wall i reckon..


 
Posted : 28/06/2020 2:25 pm
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Travellers?

Nope

I’m assuming the toilets are all shut at Loch Morlich as well ?

Yep.


 
Posted : 28/06/2020 2:26 pm
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Time to rebuild Hadrians wall i reckon..

and do a land grab at the same time 👍


 
Posted : 28/06/2020 2:27 pm
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Time to rebuild Hadrians wall i reckon..

I've joked about this, but tbh it may come to the time that the discussion has to take place.


 
Posted : 28/06/2020 2:29 pm
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There are just 25 road crossings between Scotland and England. 25.

Not that I've counted, obviously...


 
Posted : 28/06/2020 2:46 pm
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Scotland cannot apply different rules to english residents - but surely can stop english residents breaking our rules?


 
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