[Closed] DVD vs BLURAY

using all the proper HDMI cables? is the tv HDready or proper 1080p HD? is it 'upscaling' the DVD's? are the blu-rays new filmed in HD films or old films that have been thrown on a blu-ray disk but still limited by the cameras they were filmed on years ago?

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It's not a massive difference but I do notice it

The cost of the player from your wallet?
There's probably some better background texture with blu-ray rather than DVD with it's compression/decompression delay and block fill in. Think Wimbledon tennis nets on BBC1 versus BBC1 HD.

You're very masterful consequence - picked up bad habits from them bloody Americans no doubt. Yes, I'm using hdmi leads, yes the tellys full hd and yes, the DVD is up scaling. You sir, are a clever dicky!
(Edit) the DVD player was about 95 quid.

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no problems x

What size tv?
How far are you from it?
Are you sure it's set up properly? Your blu-ray is set up to work in 1080p mode?
How good are your eyes?
What films were you watching?

There is obvioulsy a difference - the resolution is higher, meaning more detail can be displayed.

But think about it - you have to be close enough to see the extra detail, and it has to be there on the original source material.

Now I feel I'm being practically waterboarded - a bit of wee came out when I read Moleys post. Ok, the tellys 46", I'm sitting about 6 - 8 feet from it, and I have eyes like a sheeps fanny.

your eyes are desired by the welsh?

46" eh.... what are you, some kind of PIMP?!

I find modern DVD looks ace through my TV and Blu-ray player. Then I got hold of my old Pulp Fiction DVD and it was horrible.

I actually do think there is a distinction between BLuRay and DVD, but it's not massive. Colours are richer and textures are better, but it's not the life changing experience you are sold in the ads (who'd have thought that eh!).

What films were you watching?

I think this is a good point. Just because a film is on a Bluray disc, it doesn't mean its better quality. I'm convinced some of the BDs I've rented have the same res film as the DVD but just stuck on a BD for marketing purposes (applies especially to some films re-released on BD)

I wanted to go bigger phil, but MrsMitch said some things. Also, she informed me (and I quote) if you put that thing on the wall, your knackers are going up there with it. Harsh, but she does have an exceedingly well filled jumper.

are the blu-rays new filmed in HD films or old films that have been thrown on a blu-ray disk but still limited by the cameras they were filmed on years ago?

The resolution of the film used (unless you're into very very old stuff) will have been far superior to what a blu-ray can reproduce

good point! still... there's some very poor quality blu-rays out there of older 70s, 80s and early 90s films, i've made the mistake of buying a few

EDIT, we're forgetting how old b'mitch is.... i suspect he's trying to watch some 1920's underground porn

The BLURAY was (ahem) Thor, which I think was a fairly recent release. How was America then phil? I'm going in about eight weeks, jolly excited and all that.
DISCLAIMER - just because I watched Thor, it doesn't mean that I specifically enjoy films with men in tights or dressed as gladiators and stuff. 😳

Another variable is how much ale you have had. If you have had enough booze that you can see two TV’s the resolution is probably irrelevant.

You didn’t get 3d did you?

The resolution of the film used (unless you're into very very old stuff) will have been far superior to what a blu-ray can reproduce

Yes but the blu ray isn't necessarily mastered from the original film.

We've got old movies that are worse than DVD quality on blu ray.

Anyway there are a few recent films I've got on both DVD and blu ray. The difference is definitely there. Just lower definition. Things look slightly fuzzier, that's all. Only slightly.

Of course it's not life changing - that's clearly extreme marketing bolx. And it's even worse in the USA too.

I'll take a double blind test on my set up, sitting 3m away from a 402 telly. I'll win every time, hands down. As long as it's a modern film.

No, couldn't see the point in 3d, I just went for the best quality full hd I could afford. I'm with bt vision at the moment, but will probably move to sky hd after Christmas.

my upscaling dvd player is nearly as good as the bluray player (ps3)

america was cool!

Vegas was an experience, hoover damn was impressive, grand canyon... big, route 66 an experience, LA was scummy, the coast was beautiful, sequoia trees amazing, san francisco was like a bigger version of brighton 🙂

we went to the jelly belly factory and did their free tour, then after i met a 5th generation 'candy queen' owner of the jelly belly company and she gave us about 50dollars worth of jelly belly stuff for free cos she wanted my willy

We're off to Orlando for Christmas - the kids need to be prescribed with Ritalin every time we mention it. I've only been to the states once before, to New York, loved it. Anyway, back to the new telly - kneel before its massive glory you nazi cockmonkeys!
Ps, is it wrong of me to ask the wife to knit me a special telly watching wonsie ?

knitted onesie? i belive the kids call that a WINsie

See, I originally spelled it like you did, but it looked like I was trying to spell the name of a premiership footballer or something.

I've been to America loads.

never been too fussed about the HD revolution tbh..

pics or it didnt happen molly

You want pics of me in America?

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that looks like swinley forest

Nah, the MTBing is better in Swinley.

You think I'm joking, don't you?

Am I missing something?

No it's not and yes, as a matter of fact, I do. Rightbackatcha with HTH 😉

The main benefit of Blu Ray, that I can see, is that all your future disc purchases will cost more than the DVD version for an insignificant supposed improvement in picture quality.

I can't help but concur

It's not supposed, it's bloody obvious. There's a clear and significant improvement in quality, this is very easy to see.

Doesn't make all that much difference to the overall experience though - good films are good regardless, likewise shite ones.

Perhaps I need directional cables? 😉

the cables benefit from a knitted sheath

It was the knitted sheath that got me into my current situation phil!

There is a guy in my office that spunked £1,600 on his 3d HD TV set and 4x glasses.

What a dick.

There is a massive difference in quality (visual and audio) between DVD and BD. If you can't tell, there's either something wrong with your setup or something wrong with your senses. I'm not saying that to be an arse, it's just the way it is.

Because of the way the channels are ordered on the Sky box, my OH keeps switching the TV onto SD versions of HD channels; then I walk in and think "christ, have I developed cataracts?"

I think it's because I expected a similar difference between BLURAY / DVD to that between hd and sd, and I honestly can't see that big a difference. Set up is good, decent cables, etc, I just suppose I was expecting more.

The main difference is they don't really put any extras on DVDs any more, to try and encourage everyone to go to bluray. I must be a freak as I only have a 19" telly in my front room so none of it will make much difference anyway.

Because of the way the channels are ordered on the Sky box, my OH keeps switching the TV onto SD versions of HD channels; then I walk in and think "christ, have I developed cataracts?"

I think it's because I expected a similar difference between BLURAY / DVD to that between hd and sd, and I honestly can't see that big a difference

Hang on - HD and SD telly?

You can see the difference between HD and SD telly, but not blu ray and dvd?

Depends on the film really, if you are watching identikit romantic comedy's, there's not much to see, but anything with decent cinematography can be epic. The remastered TopGun is hugely impressive and Machete is also a treat.
That said, I'm watching on an HD projector so differences will be more noticable. Sit closer!!

As above, makes a huge difference on a 120" projector.

interesting thread ...

I have to say I can see a clear differance between DVD and Blu Ray but on carefully reading through I think I have worked out your issue....

1/ Cables all good
2 / TV set up correctly for 1080p
3/ You can tell HD and SD tv apart clearly ...
4/ Film was a ( fairly ) recent release so should be a good quality disc ...

Which all points to the conclusive proof
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You bought one of those 3 version sets ( Blu Ray, DVD & Digital ) and have been playing the DVD in error 😉
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IT's A JOKE ( for those with humour failure) 😯

But honestly .... does any one know why they do that ... I mean I have a Blu Ray player so why the DVD... Digital copy for PC or laptop fair enough ....

Blu ray for the living room, DVD for the car or some other device. Also much easier to rip from the DVD, cos the digital copy is copy protected and only works on one device - Windows only too I think.

In my experience modern up scaling is very good. My blu-ray will upscale DVDs with a noticeable difference to my older player. Blu ray with modern films are sharper again. That's on an older 32" 720 screen

Buy Blade Runner on BD, one of the best transfers, astounding looking.
Also, sit closer to the telly. 😉

Nah, the MTBing is better in Swinley.

There isn't anywhere better than Swinley. In all weathers, regardless of tyres - Swinley is tops. Except at night on a solo night ride, then there are too many axe-wielding rapists to make it enjoyable.

I used to live there. Don't any more, and now I'm fat.

I was in there last night. Very dark, rather foggy, very muddy indeed and even more difficult to navigate than usual.

Either your telly's shit or you need

To set it up properly - it could well be that your telly is downgrading BluRay through trying to 'enhance' it. Turn off all the picture enhancement modes, set up brightness/contrast/colour using a test card.

DVD's look a *lot* better than broadcast TV as there's much less compression. They can look really good but a good BluRay transfer is sublime.

molgrips - Member

It's not supposed, it's bloody obvious.

For me the biggest difference isnt picture but sound quality, the difference is quite amazing

Ah, read the whole thread before someone finally hit the nail on the head #thefallguy.

Yes, you can tell the difference in PQ if set up properly, but the sound when through a nice Yamaha amp and Kef speakers for example (just quoting my own setup) is night and day. Dolby HD and DTS Master Audio will blow you away when compared to bog standard DD 5.1, or DTS.

uwe-r - Member

There is a guy in my office that spunked £1,600 on his 3d HD TV set and 4x glasses.

What a dick.

Why's he a dick?

If you give your upsampler a higher quality signal in the first place it can do a better job.

So it is likely to produce better results from a DVD than SD tv, which should really be termed LD tv, for low definition.

For example, I have noticed that if a TV series has been filmed in HD originally, then the SD broadcast is much higher quality and the gap between SD and HD is much lower.

But on a TV that size and sitting that close you really should be able to see the difference. I think you need to go to Richer Sounds and buy one of their £84 HDMI leads...

Why's he a dick?

3d is a gimmick and it would be better if they just broadcast higher resolutions.

Some good TVs are very good at showing depth on a picture, which is good enough unless you get your kicks at having thing floating around in front of you.

And still - why's he a dick?

He can spend his money on what he likes. He probably really enjoys watching his 3D tv.

3d is a gimmick

...unless you get your kicks at having thing floating around in front of you.

er...which is exactly why someone would buy a 3D TV presumably, so if that's what you want it isn't really a gimmick.

That's like saying mountain bikes are a gimmick unless you get your kicks out of riding bikes off road.

never been too fussed about the HD revolution tbh..

Now TVs are six times the size they need to be, HD is necessary to bring the quality back to that of an old CRT.

Ironically the new 13" MacBook Pro is about 60% higher res than HD!

Ironically the new 13" MacBook Pro is about 60% higher res than HD!

Ironically, the above isn't irony (unless you follow Alanis' definition)

Still not sure why the guy spending 1600 quid on a TV is a dick either. The irony of someone who presumably spends shed loads on "push bikes" compared to non cyclists complaining about someone else being slightly extravagant with their telly is not lost.

Now TVs are six times the size they need to be, HD is necessary to bring the quality back to that of an old CRT.

But tbh watching normal tele on my 40in doesn't really bother me, i sit about 3 meters atleast from it anyhow, so i don't really need HD.

Only time I sit close enuough to get the benefit of HD is for the playstation games, and even they are only 720p which does..

Plus films, I'll just download the 700mb avi's which is ok for me. although the 1.4gb ones are noticibly better and I prefer those.

It's just a personal preference... I understand the difference in quality and can see it clearly. I just don't need it, DVD quality or something approaching it is more than enough for me.

Also talking about CRTs i can't watch an old CRT without hurting my eyes these days, anybody else notice that, it really feels a strain compared to watching an LCD.

Ironically the new 13" MacBook Pro is about 60% higher res than HD!

Good for cinemas, no need for it in the home.

The reason I upgraded my TV to a bigger one was for Playstation games. I couldn't read any of the text.

I agree it is a big difference(anyone that can't tell needs specs), just doesn't really bother me all that much about having it or not

Well quite. A shite film is still a shite film 🙂 I notice when I start watching a DVD after a Blu ray, but only for the first 2 mins, then I don't care any more.

It's a lot less than the difference between DVD and VHS, I think.

thefallguy - Member
For me the biggest difference isnt picture but sound quality, the difference is quite amazing

Though getting the telly set up makes a huge difference.

We have a projector and screen - at 80" you can really notice a massive difference between Bluray and upscaled DVD. Much sharper, and loads more details - the colours are a lot more vivid too.

My previous experiences of BluRay had been on mates' 32" and 40" tellies, and I wasn't impressed with the difference. On mine though, it is like night and day.

Dave

Now TVs are six times the size they need to be, HD is necessary to bring the quality back to that of an old CRT.

Or you can just stick with a small TV and sit further away... I can tell if the cinematography is good without being able to see into every pore and having a 32" LCD in the corner is far more elegant than filling the room with a 46"+ energy behemoth.

I was in there last night. Very dark, rather foggy, very muddy indeed and even more difficult to navigate than usual.

Thats sounds ace - good thick night air.

having a 32" LCD in the corner is far more elegant than filling the room with a 46"+ energy behemoth.

I don't think so. A corner TV takes up more room, and a nice wall mounted tv of a reasonable size is a nice room item imo. Plus it's easier to watch up high.

I don't think so. A corner TV takes up more room,

Well more floorspace obviously, but it limits your room layout more. I'ts not like you end up with much usable space wasted behind a 32" panel. Behind anything 42" and up you could probably store a couple of bikes

a nice wall mounted tv of a reasonable size is a nice room item imo.

{quote]it's easier to watch up high.

Your eyeline should be their eyeline - do you dash for the front seats at the cinema?

You need to decide between home cinema and living room. A home cinema needs good HD and good sound. It does not need scatter cushions. Home cinemas smell of the singleton.

We've got a 65" and DVDs look atrocious compared to HD channels and Bluray... Don't know how big TVs will have to get before HD doesn't cut the mustard 😕 My guess is that they are getting pretty close...