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Is that "building tolerance" the same as alcoholics manage? So it's OK that someone permanently drunk is allowed to drive?


 
Posted : 19/12/2012 12:32 pm
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Seriously, did no-one ever tell some of you - no-one likes a tell tale 😆

Its a tough one, if you speak to him, he might suddenly have it in for you and start plotting your downfall. Do you want to lose your job because of a bitter pot-head? What sort of relationship does he have with his boss? What sort of relationship do you have with his boss? Beware office politics.

Of course you could just do what most office workers do - gossip behind his back. By the time it gets round everyone and back to you he'll be a 60 a day recovering smackhead who is now addicted to pot, having an affair with Jill from personnel (beacuse they coincidentally booked the same day off together) who cross-dresses in his spare time.


 
Posted : 19/12/2012 12:35 pm
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Is that "building tolerance" the same as alcoholics manage? So it's OK that someone permanently drunk is allowed to drive?

It means it takes more of something to have the same effect. Don't know what drunk driving's got to do with it though?


 
Posted : 19/12/2012 12:36 pm
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Building tolerance is a myth too, I've smoked plenty enough to know that.

With all [i]due[/i] respect, you're talking out of your brown hole.

I smoked a lot of pot when I was a lad (partly for medical reasons, partly for recreation) and built up a huge tolerance.
I smoked five buckets before my GCSE maths exam and got 100%, using only two-ninths of the time allotted, and then did a huge victory jump down some stairs on my rigid GT to great applause.

Two tokes now and I'd be ****ed with an inability to either think coherently or move.


 
Posted : 19/12/2012 12:43 pm
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Is that "building tolerance" the same as alcoholics manage? So it's OK that someone permanently drunk is allowed to drive?

To be drunk is to be under the influence, so not tolerant. 💡


 
Posted : 19/12/2012 12:44 pm
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It doesn't matter how much he is taking, or how much he can handle. He is doing something which is both illegal and against the terms of his contract.

If someone in a position of power finds out, he will (or should) be marched out the door and dismissed.

OP knows about it, which puts him in an awkward position. There are 2 things he can do. Ignore it, or report it.

Having a quiet word with the guy warning him == ignoring it. You risk him mentioning in his eventual dismissal hearing that everyone in the office knew (and he'll be able to name you). Not a situation I'd want to be in.

My opinion: report him.

Dave


 
Posted : 19/12/2012 12:46 pm
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Is that "building tolerance" the same as alcoholics manage? So it's OK that someone permanently drunk is allowed to drive?

strawman. our drink drive limits are not based on ability, they are based on a quantative measure of the blood.


 
Posted : 19/12/2012 12:47 pm
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I smoked five buckets before my GCSE maths exam and got 100%, using only two-ninths of the time allotted, and then did a huge victory jump down some stairs on my rigid GT to great applause.

are memory loss and exaggeration side effects? 😉

Dave


 
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Building tolerance is a myth too, I've smoked plenty enough to know that.
you've not smoked nearly enough then...tolerance to weed comes on fairly quickly and disappears just a quick.

My advice to the OP would be don't be a knob and go to the bosses. A simple heads up to the guy that it's fairly noticeable will do the trick... He'll probably s*** himself that people are noticing.


 
Posted : 19/12/2012 12:50 pm
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I wish some of the people here were on drugs. Life might be bearable.


 
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OP knows about it, which puts him in an awkward position. There are 2 things he can do. Ignore it, or report it.

Having a quiet word with the guy warning him == ignoring it. You risk him mentioning in his eventual dismissal hearing that everyone in the office knew (and he'll be able to name you). Not a situation I'd want to be in.

Or have a word with him first, if he stops problem solved if not go to the boss.


 
Posted : 19/12/2012 12:52 pm
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To be frank, i've had quite a few bosses that could have benefitted from a little smoke. And I've had other bosses whose decision-making process seemed heavily influenced by drugs, even though they were sober.

Personally I'd fit the decision to the exact circumstances, which only you know. It's indecorous what he's doing, and morally wrong, but it'd be material impacts that'd concern me. Look at the big picture, judge his performance not his practices.

I'd be swithering about letting him know that I know... Because if it's known that you know, and you don't act, and it goes tits up...


 
Posted : 19/12/2012 12:57 pm
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Or have a word with him first, if he stops problem solved if not go to the boss.

Wouldn't help in my job - regular drug tests, so they would find out soon enough and sack him. If I'd spoken to him and pissed him off, he might try to take me down too.

OPs job may not be as strict, in which case he might be able to get away with it. I'd rather not mess with my income for the sake of being nice to someone I didn't like.

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Posted : 19/12/2012 12:57 pm
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Two tokes now and I'd be **** with an inability to either think coherently or move.

The first couple of times after a long time out always hit you hard. That's true. Just like when you get a head rush from nicotine if you haven't smoked in a while. But outside of that you just get used to it. You don't build tolerance. You still feel stoned smoking the same amount. That's my experience, and the experience of others I've smoked with.


 
Posted : 19/12/2012 12:59 pm
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I wish some of the people here were on drugs. Life might be bearable.

😀

There's a theory that criminalising natural acts of medicinal intoxication could well be the cause of many of society's problems


 
Posted : 19/12/2012 1:00 pm
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OP knows about it, which puts him in an awkward position.

THANK YOU! This is the OTHER nub of the matter 🙂

BTW, he does suffer from migraines. But even so... bottom line he's high in the workplace.


 
Posted : 19/12/2012 1:03 pm
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But banging on a J an hour before he can go home? Really??


 
Posted : 19/12/2012 1:04 pm
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It's better to talk to the guy rather than grass him up, that just makes you look bad and it could backfire


 
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But banging on a J an hour before he can go home? Really??
It's not really a hanging offence imo. saying that, I've been stoned at work in the past, so i'm obviously biased here! 🙂


 
Posted : 19/12/2012 1:07 pm
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This thread is another Ned-magnet.

RiNg ThE PoLiCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just tell him he smells of weed see what he does. If he still does the same in a couple of weeks tell the boss. He might not like you but you wont die*

*Unless he loses his job, wife, kids, ability to buy weed and decides you were the source of his downfall.


 
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THANK YOU! This is the OTHER nub of the matter

But who knows you know?

Well, us obviously. And presumably all the folks who want you to grass him up (so to speak) are also dead keen to grass on you 😉


 
Posted : 19/12/2012 1:09 pm
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I guess it's to be expected that some of the ****wits frequenting this forum would be suggesting the OP makes a sneaky phone call to the plod. Enjoy your Christmas lunch booze ups and mind you dont fall off your high horses.

To the OP just loudly announce "oh it stinks of skunk in here" and the penny will drop.


 
Posted : 19/12/2012 1:11 pm
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Personally, I'd be arranging my breaks at the same time as his! Free weed, what's not to like? :mrgreen:


 
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I guess it's to be expected that some of the ****wits frequenting this forum would be suggesting the OP makes a sneaky phone call to the plod. Enjoy your Christmas lunch booze ups and mind you dont fall off your high horses.

a) sneakily smoking weed at work.
b) going to an office party, drinking alcohol (no driving).

yeah, no difference between those is there.

(edited to remove unnecessary stooping to his level.)


 
Posted : 19/12/2012 1:14 pm
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awful, awful people.. ridiculous 😆


 
Posted : 19/12/2012 1:17 pm
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aggression problems?

edited due to another edit withdrawing a comment.
of course, it makes no sense now


 
Posted : 19/12/2012 1:24 pm
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(edited to remove unnecessary stooping to his level.)

Yes because you're better than him.


 
Posted : 19/12/2012 1:33 pm
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Yes because you're better than him.

It was a response to being called a '****wit'... it wasn't necessary, so I removed it. Problem?

Dave


 
Posted : 19/12/2012 1:35 pm
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I wish some of the people here were on drugs. Life might be bearable.
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Posted : 19/12/2012 1:37 pm
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are memory loss and exaggeration side effects?

Dave

OK, replace "great applause" with "shouts of 'stack it you ****er'".

The rest is true.


 
Posted : 19/12/2012 1:40 pm
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a) sneakily smoking weed at work.
b) going to an office party, drinking alcohol (no driving).

yeah, no difference between those is there.

(edited to remove unnecessary stooping to his level.)

alfabus slurs from his high horse whilst spilling whiskey from his hip flask..

Should the OP also grass his collegues who have a couple of pints at lunch?


 
Posted : 19/12/2012 2:22 pm
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Should the OP also grass his collegues who have a couple of pints at lunch?

yes. if it affects their work OR if alcohol has been made illegal.


 
Posted : 19/12/2012 2:27 pm
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OK because it's illegal, right. I wish I saw the world as clearly as you do alfabus.

IT'S THE LAWWWWWWWW 🙄

Were you called "little grassy pissy pants" or similar in school?


 
Posted : 19/12/2012 2:32 pm
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Should the OP also grass his collegues who have a couple of pints at lunch?

Seriously? I have never once worked anywhere where people went for a couple of pints at lunch, or where it would be deemed acceptable in any way. I suspect I wouldn't have a job for very long if I tried it.

Time and a place and all that. Work is not really the place for drinking and smoking weed.


 
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Work is not really the place for drinking and smoking weed

Totally agree. One or the other. Alcohol ruins a nice spliff imo.


 
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who cross-dresses in his spare time

this is getting serious...

Is Richard Branson your boss?


 
Posted : 19/12/2012 2:41 pm
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Seriously? I have never once worked anywhere where people went for a couple of pints at lunch, or where it would be deemed acceptable in any way. I suspect I wouldn't have a job for very long if I tried it

Used to go for the 3 pint challenge with 10/12 others pretty much every lunchtime at an office I used to work at.

Worked in a postroom where 5 out of the 8 staff would quoff from their hip flasks throughout the day, one delivery driver got done for drunk driving.

Worked at a Games Developer where we used have beer at your desk Friday, people used to get paralytic by lunchtime.

Current job have people taking clients out for lunch etc, not unusual for a few drinks to be consumed!


 
Posted : 19/12/2012 2:50 pm
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Totally agree. One or the other. Alcohol ruins a nice spliff imo.

Your wrong.

It goes perfectly with a pint. So long as you keep it to a pint, and not a couple of dozen pints (followed by floating around the room aiming for the most appropriate place to puke).


 
Posted : 19/12/2012 2:52 pm
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One of the most capable managers I ever had was often stoned on the job, well he certainly liked a smoke at lunchtime anyway. Some people are perfectly able to function having smoked a bit of weed in much the same way as lots of people have a couple of pints at lunch. I'd suggest a quiet word saying that people have noticed his behaviour/the smell is the best bet initially.


 
Posted : 19/12/2012 2:57 pm
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So long as you keep it to a pint, and not a couple of dozen pints (followed by floating around the room aiming for the most appropriate place to puke).

this is what marks you out as an amateur..


 
Posted : 19/12/2012 3:33 pm
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play some Bob Marley put some Ribina, quavers twix's and few cheese sarnies out he'll love it !

...tell the boss MTFU and do the right thing ! I worked with someone that got pissed every lunch time I had no qualms telling the big boss...thats why they are the big boss and your not let it be the bosses problem not yours !

then shop his dealer in...


 
Posted : 19/12/2012 3:51 pm
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I used to work with a bloke who was a real hippy type; long hair, loons, etc. he'd be sat rolling up at his drawing board, smoke for a bit, then there'd be a real flurry of activity for a couple of hours, after his 'herbal inspiration' 😀
Nobody else gave a toss, he was a brilliant artist and designer. When the boss finally caught on, very concerned, he asked Richard about his possible habit, whereupon Richard quietly told him about having gone through drinking cough mixture, among other things, and rolling joints wasn't a big issue! He was asked if he minded going and having a toke in the loo, instead of the studio, though... 😆
It was all very different back then.


 
Posted : 19/12/2012 6:31 pm
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Vitamin G-- some people function well on it, some do not, certainly makes boring tasks more 'interesting'--

you say he is miserable/short tempered--withdrawal symptoms from 'monkey food'

Could be he hates his boring job, and to retain a bit of sanity he has a spliff or two, he may think you a miserable square who is not worth bothering with...


 
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