[Closed] Drug use in the office - your thoughts and experience, please

Advise that he gets a job in newspaper publishing. Where its generally considered pretty bad form to keep your lunchtime alcohol intake to less than 3 pints. And racking up on your desk is par for the course. 😀

Not really surprised to see so many 'grass him up' type comments. The members of STW with no guts, would rather go behind his back than talk to him face to face.

Grow some balls and stop hiding behind your keyboard/boss/wife.

"Oi mate, I'm not going to say who but people have noticed your toking at work; leave it at home yeah?"

The members of STW with no guts, would rather go behind his back than talk to him face to face

Er, that's nice and all but it's a workplace, and there's a heirarchy for a reason.

If it were a friend or a personal situation I'd say to his face, I've not got a problem with courage.

But I do think the OP would be best telling his boss, cos it's actually more his boss's business than his.

binners - Member

racking up on your desk is par for the course.

I spotted a machinist racking up on a CNC lathe once.
Nice lad but he had a lot of problems (bloody top class machinist, mind).

Tony the crackhead; if you're reading this, God Bless! 😀

He neither drives nor owns a car.

OK, pours a cup of boiling tea over someone at their desk...

The actual act that causes harm isn't the discussion here.

Not really surprised to see so many 'grass him up' type comments. The members of STW with no guts, would rather go behind his back than talk to him face to face.

Grow some balls and stop hiding behind your keyboard/boss/wife.

If he's a habitual smoker (years of experience 😉 ) he''ll have built up a tolerance so i guess (purely specualative here) it doesn't affect his work as for all you know he could be having a breakfast joint, lunchtime joint and when he gets home after work he could be having 4 or 5 joints a night so a joint here or there will make sod all difference to his ability to work, some folk can smoke loads without any perceivable affect on themselves and some folk have one joint and turn into a space cadet for hours.

If you have a problem with it the workplace then i'd have a quiet word with him directly, running up the chain with your accusations is rather petty, perhaps something along the lines of "Look mate, folk know and have been talking bout your sneaky joints so you'd better knock it on the head.

From a personal perspective i'd say a good 90% of my friends/social crowd smoke weed, I've smoked on/off for the past 20 odd years, not had a J since last new year but i imagine i'll be having a few home made t'weed truffles come this New Year. I don't find so called drug use a big deal in the slightest as long as it doesn't affect me or is detrimental to those around me so i'm prob the wrong person to give advice on this subject, another point of view though and those folk advising you to dob him in to the police/advise the dvla? - Yeah...you sound proper self-righteous upstanding members of society, i bet you're closet curtain twitchers - sad n' uptight.

He neither drives nor owns a car.

OK, pours a cup of boiling tea over someone at their desk...
The actual act that causes harm isn't the discussion here.

Are you serious? 😆

resign and put in a good word for me

I would speak to him personally- I dont actually think it is on to do in works time tbh and the least he should do is be more subtle

I know friends that could perform and function perfectly well while stoned, but I would have bloodshoot eyes and be a bit of usless mess!

I'd advocate having a chat with him being a complete stoner. Its a bit like when you thought your parents didn't know you smoked because you'd had a Polo afterwards, but they knew and said nothing - perhaps he belives in his stoned state that he is a ganja ninja of pure stealth and that he is fooling all of you

+1 for chat about the cold truth!

another point of view though and those folk advising you to dob him in to the police/advise the dvla? - Yeah...you sound proper self-righteous upstanding members of society, i bet you're closet curtain twitchers - sad n' uptight

You are aware it's Illegal ? Aside from the dangerous aspect, which i doubt i can convince you otherwise... it's completely and utterly against the law.

You are aware it's Illegal ? Aside from the dangerous aspect, which i doubt i can convince you otherwise... it's completely and utterly against the law.

Presumably you show the same moral indignation over people who speed slightly in their cars when driving home (probably most people)?

I used to start my working day with a cheeky line before i got in the shower....i would draw the line (no pun intended) at actually taking drugs at work though.

grum - Member

You are aware it's Illegal ? Aside from the dangerous aspect, which i doubt i can convince you otherwise... it's completely and utterly against the law.

Presumably you show the same moral indignation over people who speed slightly in their cars when driving home (probably most people)?

I'm an Ex motorbike racer, i don't even consider speeding an offence 😉

double standards are allowed in here aren't they ?

Ah so you're just a massive hypocrite, as well as petty little tell-tale. Go you. 😉

tell him you have seen him & can smell it, in a nice, Im helping you out kind of way...

may be enough for him to reign it back in to personal time only

I would imagine he has something bad on his mind if he is doing this at work.

Perhaps a supportive pint one night to see if he wants to talk about something would be an idea too. He might just need a wee bit of help with something he sees as huge but you might see as small.

If he stinks of pot, go up to him and say 'You stink of pot'.

Simple, fair and honest. Could be taken as a friendly warning.

Molgrips has it, as does timc.

If it's not affecting his work, then the only real issue is that he's stinking up the office which may adversely affect the sensibilities of other employees. "Jeez - do you know you're reeking of weed? Honestly mate - poeple have noticed" would probably do the job.

I would imagine he has something bad on his mind if he is doing this at work.

You don't know many stoners do you!

its a plant ffs its immorally illegal, I bet some of the best decisions the manager has made are shortly after his rooftop bif.

Drugs hehe its a plant and medicine for MILLIONS 😉

He neither drives nor owns a car.

OK, pours a cup of boiling tea over someone at their desk...
The actual act that causes harm isn't the discussion here.

what if it's a cat's face next time?

or a baby robin

You are aware it's Illegal ? Aside from the dangerous aspect, which i doubt i can convince you otherwise... it's completely and utterly against the law.

What!!!!!...it's illegal?, are you sure?...omg...omg...omg...omg....omg....omg.....

And as for dangerous? - i'm not even gonna go into that feeble argument with someone that quotes the law.

FWIW i was involved (numerous blind tests) with the original cannabis spinal pain relief Sativex trials with Dr Geoffrey Guy/GW pharmaceuticals at Porton Down in 1998 as i shattered my spine in many places in a car accident back in 91, had two vertebrae removed and the rest pretty much fused together and i was freely given and advised to use cannabis for control of muscle spasms/pain relief and to aid bladder control by the medical establishment in the Edenhall Spinal Unit back in 91, thus i have used it on and off for the past 20 odd years, i have also grown it hydroponically, have advised others on growing it hydroponically and in the past i have supported the various Medicinal Cannabis projects around the country who help many patients with MS, Glaucoma, Pain Relief, Radiotherapy/cancer treatment etc. I have stood up in court over 50 times in the past 14 yrs as an "expert witness" in cases against individuals who have been growing it for personal medical reasons with great success and i've tied up in knots many a so called "prosecution expert witness" in court whilst being described as a very credible witness by the judge in high court cases so please keep your knee jerk reactionary bile to your self.

Yes, some people do come to harm when using cannabis, some people come to harm with overeating, should we regulate food? - no, we offer medical and health/dietary advice, i see no reason why this approach cannot be used with so called drugs.

Rant over, this sort of crap boils my piss.....see ya later.

[quote=somafunk ]
Rant over, this sort of crap boils my piss.....see ya later.
Apparently, one of the side effects is a tendency towards inappropriate anger.

so please keep your knee jerk reactionary bile to your self

I'm the knee jerker ?

Have a word with yourself.

Ha-ha!, touché 😉

that was not inappropriate druidh - for clarity I mean his post not yours 😉

I used to drugs education in schools

you try and deliver the facts then explain why the two biggest killers are legal - ou laws make no sense either morally or from a danger viewpoint

somafunk - Member

blah blah rant

yeah, that is all well and good, but we are not talking about a person suffering chronic pain. We are talking about an annoying bloke at the OPs work who is likely to get caught sooner or later, and if the OP does nothing, it is highly likely his reputation will be tarnished because he knew about it, he could even lose his job over this guys illegal habit.

Either shop him to the boss or get the plod to come and solve the problem for him.

All of you whining about guts/balls/courage etc. can get stuffed. OP asked what to do about a guy in his office who is taking the piss by doing something illegal during work hours. Getting him out of there and protecting the OPs career is not cowardice, it is the right thing to do.

Very different situation to either medicinal users/growers or one of your mates having a toke.

Dave

I would have a friendly chat with him and if that didn't work I would tell your boss. What people do in their own time is up to them (pretty much!) but when it affects other or is in work time it's a different ball-game. You must have a H&S policy that covers this sort of stuff?

alfabus - Member
yeah, that is all well and good, but we are not talking about a person suffering chronic pain

How do you know he's not using it for chronic pain?

One of my mates has MS, when he's got stuff you can't tell because it controls the symptoms.

Another mate has Crohns and before using he had operations to remove sections of his gut, was on pescription drugs with horrible side effects and basically couldn't function. He's been using for 5/6 years, hasn't needed an operation or pescription drugs, has put on weight and looks healthy.

The only way you'd know that either of them were ill would be if they stopped smoking.

alfabus - Member
Either shop him to the boss or get the plod to come and solve the problem for him.

The police? [i]Really?[/i]

This thread's making me fancy a smoke.
Is the OP next line for stoner managers job?

it is highly likely his reputation will be tarnished because he knew about it,

This is where the ability to "play" dumb comes into its own.
"did you know that XX was using drugs?"
[homer mode]"what are drugs?"[/homer mode]

Don't tell the goddamn po-lice though. Bad karma.

did you know that XX was using drugs?"
[homer mode]"what are drugs?"[/homer mode]

Make sure they dont think your short term memory is shot whilst doing this

Unless you design bongs, it's not really on, is it.

The guy is stoned at work. I don't buy the idea that some people can remain perfectly lucid under the influence. If that was the case why the hell would you do it? Building tolerance is a myth too, I've smoked plenty enough to know that.

butcher - Member
I don't buy the idea that some people can remain perfectly lucid under the influence.

Well it happens

If that was the case why the hell would you do it?

Medicinal, perhaps.

Building tolerance is a myth too, I've smoked plenty enough to know that.

It's not.

Is that "building tolerance" the same as alcoholics manage? So it's OK that someone permanently drunk is allowed to drive?

Seriously, did no-one ever tell some of you - no-one likes a tell tale 😆

Its a tough one, if you speak to him, he might suddenly have it in for you and start plotting your downfall. Do you want to lose your job because of a bitter pot-head? What sort of relationship does he have with his boss? What sort of relationship do you have with his boss? Beware office politics.

Of course you could just do what most office workers do - gossip behind his back. By the time it gets round everyone and back to you he'll be a 60 a day recovering smackhead who is now addicted to pot, having an affair with Jill from personnel (beacuse they coincidentally booked the same day off together) who cross-dresses in his spare time.

druidh - Member
Is that "building tolerance" the same as alcoholics manage? So it's OK that someone permanently drunk is allowed to drive?

It means it takes more of something to have the same effect. Don't know what drunk driving's got to do with it though?

butcher - Member

Building tolerance is a myth too, I've smoked plenty enough to know that.

With all [i]due[/i] respect, you're talking out of your brown hole.

I smoked a lot of pot when I was a lad (partly for medical reasons, partly for recreation) and built up a huge tolerance.
I smoked five buckets before my GCSE maths exam and got 100%, using only two-ninths of the time allotted, and then did a huge victory jump down some stairs on my rigid GT to great applause.

Two tokes now and I'd be ****ed with an inability to either think coherently or move.

druidh - Member

Is that "building tolerance" the same as alcoholics manage? So it's OK that someone permanently drunk is allowed to drive?

To be drunk is to be under the influence, so not tolerant. 💡

It doesn't matter how much he is taking, or how much he can handle. He is doing something which is both illegal and against the terms of his contract.

If someone in a position of power finds out, he will (or should) be marched out the door and dismissed.

OP knows about it, which puts him in an awkward position. There are 2 things he can do. Ignore it, or report it.

Having a quiet word with the guy warning him == ignoring it. You risk him mentioning in his eventual dismissal hearing that everyone in the office knew (and he'll be able to name you). Not a situation I'd want to be in.

My opinion: report him.

Dave

Is that "building tolerance" the same as alcoholics manage? So it's OK that someone permanently drunk is allowed to drive?

strawman. our drink drive limits are not based on ability, they are based on a quantative measure of the blood.

I smoked five buckets before my GCSE maths exam and got 100%, using only two-ninths of the time allotted, and then did a huge victory jump down some stairs on my rigid GT to great applause.

are memory loss and exaggeration side effects? 😉

Dave

butcher - Member
Building tolerance is a myth too, I've smoked plenty enough to know that.

My advice to the OP would be don't be a knob and go to the bosses. A simple heads up to the guy that it's fairly noticeable will do the trick... He'll probably s*** himself that people are noticing.

I wish some of the people here were on drugs. Life might be bearable.