[Closed] Donald! Trump!

Actually went alright for both, as far as these things go. Short and sweet, but very friendly(and even funny) and no mess ups.

Interesting thing was on torture, trump stated his belief that it works, but he's going to defer to his top general on the matter(who's stated that it doesn't apparently?) So interesting enough there, See how that plays out.

In general from a UK perspective regarding the brexit negotitions(whether you are for or against). It can only be a good thing on them to look like you are firm friends with the US I guess. (My biggest concern there is how that manifests itself in a UKUS trade deal.)

One another observation, seems a slight less scatty trump, bit more focused I thought.

Actually went alright for both, as far as these things go. Short and sweet, but and no mess ups.

Well I guess it depends if you think arming and training Osama bin Laden and deregulating the banks was a mess up.

Or whether being so affected by alzheimer's that your wife has to tell you what to say was a mess up

Or whether getting sacked by your own party because you force a hated tax onto people was a mess up.

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One another observation, seems a slight less scatty trump, bit more focused I thought.

That'll be the Ritalin that the CIA have slipped into his official Whitehouse meals over the past week, they take a few days to show effect so i expect Trumps next live appearance to involve a happy-clappy sing-song session involving "Kumbaya" and lots of holding hands followed by a finger painting session.

I was thinking he's been taken into the smokey room! 😆

I found the Trump quotes of him having relationships that he though would work, and ones that he thought wouldn’t, with the outcomes being the opposite, interesting at a press conference dominated by the UK/US 'special relationship’.

And yet China are one of the major countries you want the UK to do business with after Brexit.

Nope, I absolutely did not say that. China is the sort of country the UK should not seek a tariff free trade deal with.

A reminder of my priorities

Australia
NZ
US
Canada
Japan
India
boader deal with Commonwealth

What does Australia and New Zealand make that we want?

Sheep, NZ makes sheep, and cheese.

What does Australia and New Zealand make that we want?

Presumably the same things we sold you before you unceremoniously sidelined us in the 70's. 😆

I'm not sure why you're so keen to renew the acquaintanceship at this stage, though Jambalaya.

A reminder of my priorities

NZ

But small countries like scotland could never get by on their own..

new zealand population errr 4.5million! 😆

Apologies if done, but I can't be arsed reading through the crap. This tickled me.[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38777263 ]

"I don't necessarily agree, but I would tell you that he will override because I'm giving him that power," Mr Trump said of General Mattis.

[quote=captainsasquatch ]So. this is going to be his line everytime he discovers that el presidente doesn't have the power and that most of his crackpot ideas will be reigned in by real politicians. It's going to be such a disappointment for all the little Trumpettes out there.

I wouldn't get too optimistic about that - he's suggesting deferring to his cabinet member, most of whom are cronies with agendas and plenty of crackpot ideas of their own. I suspect Mattis is one of the sane ones though (he does at least have relevant experience unlike many/most! and checking the confirmation vote he had almost unanimous cross party support)

"So. this is going to be his line everytime he discovers that el presidente doesn't have the power and that most of his crackpot ideas will be reigned in by real politicians."

That's my take on it.

jambalaya - Member

And yet China are one of the major countries you want the UK to do business with after Brexit.

Nope, I absolutely did not say that. China is the sort of country the UK should not seek a tariff free trade deal with.

I totally agree.

No tariff free deal at all.

Even other Chinese in Asia think you are fool if you do that. 😆

...Mad Dog Mattis one of the sane ones. I mean I agree. It would be very wrong to judge the man by his soubriquet.

Haven't you guys watched Generation Kill? Mattis is completely batshit crazy! 😆

check this slightly creepy picture

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you can zoom in

he really does have tiny hands !

its like shes leading a child, literally and figuretivly

kimbers - Member
check this slightly creepy picture

he really does have tiny hands

its like shes leading a child, literally and figuretivly !

I doubt President Trump is going to hold hands with any of the EU bureaucrats ... 😆

I notice that hers is the dominant hand.

The insane bloodshed of the last 15 years or so was entirely down to a tiny handful of nutters driving aircraft into towers and then the West overreacting to that by starting un-winnable and counter productive Guerrila wars.

From an American centric point of view the 15 years of war were a resounding success, sure Europes been bombed and Syria and Iraq have hone to shit - but AQ were decimated and there has yet to be a major attack on US soil.

Also

10 quid says Donald bones May and May resigns to be the new first lady. You heard it here first.

May has always struck me as being the kind of weirdo that would love a creepy mysogynistic rapist as a husband, especially one with power and money.

he really does have tiny hands

May has always struck me as being the kind of weirdo that would love a creepy mysogynistic rapist as a husband, especially one with power and money.

there has yet to be a major attack on US soil.

Which makes Trump's crusade against muslims, and immigrants in general, even more bizarre.

It's not at all bizarre - check who's in the White House.

jekkyl - Member
he really does have tiny hands

Are those people mocking President Trump "small hands" different from them accusing President Trump of mocking the "reporter"? That is the question.

People do think alike don't they ... 😛

you appear not to think at all

"Are those people mocking President Trump "small hands" different from them accusing President Trump of mocking the "reporter"? That is the question.
People do think alike don't they ..."

Yup.

And she likes it up the gary.

zippykona - Member

And she likes it up the gary.

It's not often I genuinely laugh out loud at a post, but I like to acknowledge a post when I do.
Chapeau.
😆

Do you suppose once they were out of shot he made a grab for her pussy?

Soooo, May (the female pm) is fair game for anal jokes now that she held Trump's hand.

May's ass got patriarched 😆

And to think that some of you didn't believe in #WomensMarch.

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slowoldman - Member
Do you suppose once they were out of shot he made a grab for her pussy?

"Soooo, May (the female pm) is fair game for anal jokes now that she held Trump's hand.
May's ass got patriarched
And to think that some of you didn't believe in #WomensMarch."

Good point.

some good (sic) sexism going on here - is that fighting fire with fire?

she likes it <snip>

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I'm not sure some of those crying foul would have supported the March 😉

Well if she's holding his hand at least she knows where it is.

He was definitely on message, read his press conference statement deliberately word by word.

As I posted a while ago, full state visit offerd and accepted. He's going to love that and that's important.

@scotroutes clitching at straws there. Huge kudos to be first leader meet President (usually Canada or Mexico) and strong supportive words on Brexit too following repeated critism of Merkel a couple of days ago. Supposedly Merkel has made the offer to come to Washington a number of times and Trump hasn't even replied.

So. this is going to be his line everytime he discovers that el presidente doesn't have the power and that most of his crackpot ideas will be reigned in by real politicians. It's going to be such a disappointment for all the little Trumpettes out there.

Lefties: [i]Waa waah, Trumps history shows that he is a megalomaniac who never listens to anyone but himself, waah[/i]

Trump: [i]I'm putting my opinions aside and listening to the experts, and they can decide what is needed[/i]

Lefties: [i]Waa, Trump isn't taking responsibility for decisions, he's making the experts decide what's best, waah, waah[/i]

And the circle is complete...

[quote=ninfan ]Trump: I'm putting my opinions aside and listening to the experts, and they can decide what is needed
Lefties: Waa, Trump isn't taking responsibility for decisions, he's making the experts decide what's best, waah, waah

😆 - with your inbuilt bias you seem to have assumed the "lefties" think this is a bad idea.

If they all were experts I'd be feeling quite happy with reality meets Trump. Unfortunately one of the big immediate issues with his presidency is those he has appointed to positions of real power (whereas a lot of what he claims he's going to do requires approval of Congress).

[quote=jambalaya ]Well if she's holding his hand at least she knows where it is.

chapeau!

And she likes it up the gary.

You don't find the whole cosyying up to Trump and then literally holding hands a bit creepy and sycophantic?

I mean, I rarely held hands with women I actually slept with before I got married - let alone someone I barely knew.

Eugghh.

I think Ive been traumatised by that photo. The whole daughter of a vicar makes it even more creepy and believable in a really wrongly Englisb and ever so awkward way.

Ewwwwwwwwww. I need some mind bleach.

[quote=Tom_W1987 ]You don't find the whole cosyying up to Trump and then literally holding hands a bit creepy and sycophantic?I got he impression he was helping her down some steps or a ramp? Just the way they both seemed to be looking at the ground for a moment.

I got he impression he was helping her down some steps or a ramp? Just the way they both seemed to be looking at the ground for a moment.

Yep, although in the photo it looks like Mrs May is taking him back to the care home after he'd had a wandering episode.

jambalaya - Member

@scotroutes clitching at straws there. Huge kudos to be first leader meet President (usually Canada or Mexico) and strong supportive words on Brexit too following repeated critism of Merkel a couple of days ago. Supposedly Merkel has made the offer to come to Washington a number of times and Trump hasn't even replied.

Perhaps it's you that is clutching at straws there

At least Mattis has seen firsthand the cost of war, that's a good thing for America. Seems all to easy for a career politician to send people off to kill and be killed, hopefully he'll be more measured in his approach as well as having the knowledge to make informed, strategic decisions. I'm bloody jealous of the US military right now.

You don't find the whole cosyying up to Trump and then literally holding hands a bit creepy and sycophantic?

Like some sort of grotesque arranged marriage.

@DrJ,

They look like they belong in some kind of horror movies as a murderous cannibal couple.

Mike Merkel is anything but strong at the moment. Her glory days post 2008 where she was one of the few leaders to survive the crises are but a distant memory. An apology for the migrant crises and it's security implications, a ban on EU nationals claiming unemployment benefits for 5 years, a burkha ban, pressure from AfD for the Greek "bailout" and an election to fight in October.

Trump has snubbed her. He's going to be equally hostle to the EU and tougher still via the IMF

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^ Just gave me the boak.

@edenvalleyboy Is that portrayal acceptable? #womensmarch

If anyone can stand more #crowdgate this piece is worth reading. A couple of key points, Obama photos from 2009 - first ever Black President, sunny day so people arrvied early. Trump's day was cold and raining. Media used photos from an hour before. From the President's viewpoint the crowds look pretty similar and substantially larger than Bill Clinton's.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-27/more-fake-news-media-contrived-photos-diminish-trump’s-inauguration-crowd

Boring boring boring

Jeez Jamba let it go, more people were at Obamas inauguration #jambafact

 

May meeting Trump is clearly because both sides are desperate. Nothing to do with kudos for May - she just looks ridiculous and desperate.

Jamba - can you get any more ridiculous? Half the number of people on the public transport system as for Obamas inaugeration. Trump actually asked for pictures that showed bigger crowds - there aren't any.

How about this Jamba - you cnnot claim its the wrong time - just empty stands as his motorcade goes past. [img] [/img]

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I can't help but think that everyone has been debating the size of the inauguration crowd because Trump wants everyone to be debating the size of the inauguration crowd. IYSWIM.

Google recalling his foreign staff from the countries affected by visas bans.

This is not going to end well for the US.

Google recalling his foreign staff from the countries affected by visas bans.

This is not going to end well for the US

The idiot in chief is surpassing all expectations

Mega Lolz at jamba trying to back up trumps crowd claims

Sadly when you fight fire with fire you only get a bigger fire.

[i]@edenvalleyboy Is that portrayal acceptable? #womensmarch [/i]

No

scotroutes - Member
Tom_W1987 » You don't find the whole cosyying up to Trump and then literally holding hands a bit creepy and sycophantic?
I got he impression he was helping her down some steps or a ramp? Just the way they both seemed to be looking at the ground for a moment.

That's exactly all it was. I don't really understand the need to sensationalise every little thing about Trump. It's crazy and just makes them look mental.

Lets have some substance. Not entertainment.

How far this kinda shit goes seems more important to me.

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/01/27/politics/trump-plans-to-sign-executive-action-on-refugees-extreme-vetting/

Isn't his beloved son in law and current whitehouse adviser the grandchild of a jewish refugee?

How quickly one forgets...

Its Muslims he hates, not Jews.

Given its to "protect against terrorism" I wonder why Saudi Arabia isn't on his list, given 9/11 was carried out by Saudi citizens?

torsoinalake - Member
Its Muslims he hates, not Jews.

Given its to "protect against terrorism" I wonder why Saudi Arabia isn't on his list, given 9/11 was carried out by Saudi citizens?

seosamh77 - Member
How far this kinda shit goes seems more important to me.

torsoinalake - Member
Its Muslims he hates, not Jews.

Given its to "protect against terrorism" I wonder why Saudi Arabia isn't on his list, given 9/11 was carried out by Saudi citizens?

Are you really that naive that you think money (oil whatever) does not buy favour in this world?

All leaders past and present from the free world let S.Arabia be themselves because they have money. Simple.

chewkw - Member
seosamh77 - Member
How far this kinda shit goes seems more important to me.

Why? Because you want to intervene in another sovereign nation's affairs?

Nope, cause we're americas lap dogs, it empowers the loonballs in this country.

The news today bears so many similarities and reminders of the past...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS_St._Louis

So does the Donald have a Jewish grandfather then?

That's exactly all it was. I don't really understand the need to sensationalise every little thing about Trump. It's crazy and just makes them look mental.

Lets have some substance. Not entertainment.

I disagree, you cant corner May, Trump or their supporters with facts - they need to be lampooned as hard as possible, repeatedly.

Yep, it's certainly worked in preventing their rise to power so far!

You always have to be on guard against fascists like trump and farage.

seosamh77 - Member

scotroutes - Member
Tom_W1987 » You don't find the whole cosyying up to Trump and then literally holding hands a bit creepy and sycophantic?
I got he impression he was helping her down some steps or a ramp? Just the way they both seemed to be looking at the ground for a moment.

That's exactly all it was. I don't really understand the need to sensationalise every little thing about Trump. It's crazy and just makes them look mental.

Lets have some substance. Not entertainment.

Actually it isn't. Theresa May doesn't need to be helped down steps. She can manage perfectly well on her own.

Donald Trump is a highly successful reality TV celebrity who knows how to manipulate people. He would therefore fully understand the importance of body language in front of cameras.

All political leaders do it when they meet their counterparts, Obama, Bush, Cameron, Putin, etc. For example when they and their counterpart are about to go through a doorway they will try to be the first to put their hand behind the other's shoulders and lead them through. It makes them seem assertive and in charge while the other person is reduced to appearing meek and forced to follow their lead.

Trump would have fully understood the significance of leading Theresa May by the hand in front of the world's photographers and TV cameras.

[i]You always have to be on guard against fascists like [s]trump and farage.[/s] nifan.[/i]

Please call me a leftie nifan..I need some flattery. 😀

It's only important to the bams that pay attention to it.