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GrahamS - Member
Apologies for FB video but this expresses it well:
Actually the opposite is true for people in other part of the world.
President Trump is correct in his manner for a formal occasion while ex-President Obama has blurred the line between formal and informal occasion.
Nothing to do with formal or informal more to do with basic respect, same thing in the video where they get out the car and he just walks off and ignores her.
Actually the opposite is true for people in other part of the world.
They are not in "other part of the world" though are they?
They are in good ol' USofA where, like the UK, Obama is being a gentleman and Trump is barely acknowledging his wife.
But yeah I'm sure they are fine...
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😯 #freemelania
In other news, this [i]could[/i] be an interesting development if anything comes of it:
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His executive order to go ahead with the pipeline in the indian reserve might not go down very well either .especially as he has shares into one of the business dealing with it .
lets hope the intelligence industry are so pissed off with him that someone hacks his tax returns and leaks them! That would be awesome!
You need to kiss hand to show respect to your wife in a formal occasion?akira - Member
Nothing to do with formal or informal more to do with basic respect, same thing in the video where they get out the car and he just walks off and ignores her.
GrahamS - Member
They are not in "other part of the world" though are they?
They are in good ol' USofA where, like the UK, Obama is being a gentleman and Trump is barely acknowledging his wife.But yeah I'm sure they are fine...
Yes, they are in Merica so why make it as a big deal that President Trump did not kiss his wife hand? Why make the comparison? That's not the way to score points you know.
Barely acknowledging his wife? Are you seriously trying to tell people how they should behave as husband and wife? 😆
Spicer having more fun with "twist and shout" today
I don't need to tell trump how to act, he's been a misogynist for years so I imagine he can do it without prompting.
His executive order to go ahead with the pipeline in the indian reserve might not go down very well either .especially as he has shares into one of the business dealing with it .
May not go down very well with the miners put out of work by cheap gas.
Barely acknowledging his wife? Are you seriously trying to tell people how they should behave as husband and wife?
Your allegiance to this total and utter piece of crap is commendable. I know you're just saying the opposite of the rest for some kind of effect, but still.
EDIT: It reminds me of a sign I saw many years ago that read, 'Can you afford to vote Conservative?' Change Conservative for Trump chewkw and see what the result is, dear boy, and I bet the answer is no, you can't. 🙁
I see ninfan has quit bragging about how mighty fine Meliana is and I'm sure that she endures every flabby, high energy, Viagra powered thrust with great enthusiasm, but love needs respect and trust
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Its all the more apparent following on from the Obamas and all those brilliant (media friendly photogenic) un-selfconscious displays of affection,
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Its obvious that Donald J Trump loves Donald J Trump, anyone else I couldnt say
The largest global protest about anything ever? was by women objecting to period hating Donald J Trump, they were right to protest, hes a scumbag.
maybe he'll be a great president, but hes still a scumbag
That Trumpet image is brilliant, they guy is a total prick.
Well this is really bad news (again) He's gone full dictator on environmental protection already..
http://www.latimes.com/politics/washington/la-na-trailguide-updates-trump-administration-orders-media-1485281190-htmlstory.html
The Trump administration has instituted a media blackout at the Environmental Protection Agency and barred staff from awarding any new contracts or grants.Emails sent to EPA staff since President Trump's inauguration on Friday and reviewed by the Associated Press detailed the specific prohibitions banning news releases, blog updates or posts to the agency's social media accounts.
The Trump administration has also ordered a "temporary suspension" of all new business activities at the department, including issuing task orders or work assignments to EPA contractors. The orders are expected to have a significant and immediate impact on EPA activities nationwide.
Similar orders barring external communications have been issued by the Trump administration at other federal agencies in recent days, including the Agriculture and Interior departments.
Staffers in EPA's public affairs office are instructed to forward all inquiries from reporters to the Office of Administration and Resources Management.
"Incoming media requests will be carefully screened," one directive said. "Only send out critical messages, as messages can be shared broadly and end up in the press."
A review of EPA websites and social media accounts, which typically include numerous new posts each day, showed no new activity since Friday.
White House spokesman Sean Spicer said Tuesday he had no information on the blackout. He said aides were looking into the circumstances.
Actually it is a non-issue but the oppositions suddenly see it as something that is worth mentioning for whatever reason. I am merely pointing to the fact that it is not wrong for not kissing your wife in a formal occasion. The people don't need to know a person can be affectionate or not. That is their private matter. In other far east culture that is seen as disrespectful to your host. Try to do that at a formal state in the far east occasions. Once or twice you might be fine ... too often ... hmmmm ...captainsasquatch - Member
Your allegiance to this total and utter piece of crap is commendable. I know you're just saying the opposite of the rest for some kind of effect, but still.
I think that is a non-issue too if the name is changed to whatever because it is the people who decide. The question is wouldn't the opposition be jumping for joy if that is the case so why the concern? 😆EDIT: It reminds me of a sign I saw many years ago that read, 'Can you afford to vote Conservative?' Change Conservative for Trump chewkw and see what the result is, dear boy, and I bet the answer is no, you can't.
Actually it is a non-issue but the oppositions suddenly see it as something that is worth mentioning for whatever reason. I am merely pointing to the fact that it is not wrong for not kissing your wife in a formal occasion. The people don't need to know a person can be affectionate or not. That is their private matter. In other culture that is seen as disrespectful. Try to do that at state occasions.
You seem oblivious to the fact that non verbal communication is an involuntary act. But it is not another culture either, so I would expect Trumpet to follow the norms of other West Midland folk. The fact you are from a different culture is irrelevant.
If ex-President Obama is affectionate towards his wife and they are loving couples yes that is fine. They don't make a big deal out of their relationship why should you or the media?kimbers - Member
Its all the more apparent following on from the Obamas and all those brilliant (media friendly photogenic) un-selfconscious displays of affection,
Its obvious that Donald J Trump loves Donald J Trump, anyone else I couldnt say
He does love himself but is that a crime?
They are entitled to protest but what they are protesting I haven't a clue.The largest global protest about anything ever? was by women objecting to period hating Donald J Trump, they were right to protest, hes a scumbag.
maybe he'll be a great president, but hes still a scumbag
Maybe? 🙂
captainsasquatch - Member
You seem oblivious to the fact that non verbal communication is an involuntary act. But it is not another culture either, so I would expect Trumpet to follow the norms of other West Midland folk. The fact you are from a different culture is irrelevant.
You are stating the obvious as people can see that very clearly to make up their minds. There is No need for the media or anyone else to remind us they are affectionate couples.
Yes, it is another culture I agree as I respect that. But then when the media use it to discredit or credit a family over another they cross the line regardless of culture.
You are stating the obvious as people can see that very clearly to make up our mind. There is No need for the media or anyone else to remind us they are affectionate couples.Yes, it is another culture I agree as I respect that. But then when the media use it to discredit or credit a family over they cross the line regardless of culture.
Come again? 😐
captainsasquatch - Member
Come again?
The ex-President is affectionate towards his wife.
The media should not make a big deal out of it. 😛
[s]They are entitled to protest but what they are protesting[/s] I haven't a clue.
Never a truer word spoken.
meh I dont think either of them are having much fun 😉
1st dinner as president surely you'd be a bit cheerier!
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The ex-President is affectionate towards his wife.
As I said, you clearly know nothing of non verbal communication if you have come to that conclusion. And trust me, culture has **** all to do with it. Look closely into the eyes of a Burka wearer and tell me you can't see what's going on.
She doesn't seem too affectionate towards him though, but I imagine her opinion isn't important. She's still quite fit though.
In the Trump gif I think he had just seen a cat he wanted to play with and was checking is Melania was watching....
I think he was eyeing up the blond behind his wife.
captainsasquatch - Member
The ex-President is affectionate towards his wife.
As I said, you clearly know nothing of non verbal communication if you have come to that conclusion. And trust me, culture has **** all to do with it.
Okay, I see his affection towards his wife.
Now you explain to me what you see so I know what you are talking about otherwise I assume what I see.
Trust me culture has plenty to do with it.
Please note that this example does not make sense and may get you into plenty of troubles. Don't do it.Look closely into the eyes of a Burka wearer and tell me you can't see what's going on.
He does love himself but is that a crime?
Narcissism is hardly a desirable personal quality...
In fact, it can be deeply destructive & disassociating - qualities that might make someone unfit to hold a position with considerable power & responsibility....ohhhhh like being POTUS perhaps?
mrlebowski - Member
Narcissism is hardly a desirable personal quality...
President Trump, The President of United State?
How do you know? 😆In fact, it can be deeply destructive & disassociating - qualities that might make someone unfit to hold a position with considerable power & responsibility....ohhhhh like being POTUS perhaps?
For the love of... even you can't believe the crap you spout chewkw. 🙄
To be fair to chewkw he's trying to defend the indefensible, you can't do that without flights of fancy and alternative facts.
Hmm, strange it's now "loving arrectionate Obama"
Not long back it was "Obama marriage on the rocks" and "Obamas to divorce"
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http://www.washingtonstarnews.com/is-the-obama-marriage-on-the-rocks/
OR maybe the press get things wrong?
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-25/trumps-voter-fraud-belief-based-on-studies-white-house-says/8210222
I think Trump is about to set his own record for being so incredibly wrong so hugly many times.
Based on studies
What studies
Studies
Which ones
Studies OK
Step Left, Step Right, duck jump and repeat....
[url= https://twitter.com/hashtag/freemelania ]#freemelania[/url]
a lot of trumpers have been trying to say the melania smackdown gif is fake news and infact reversed, even though its shown from multiple angles
Trump voter fraud seems to be based on information from infowars which I'm sure we can all agree is about the most biased alternative fact spouting nonsense out there. To be honest I quite like the snowman but Alex Jones really has a lot to answer for.
Donald Trump just can't let it go. Even with a comfortable electoral college victory over Hillary Clinton last November, his three-million-vote deficit to his Democratic presidential opponent clearly is eating at him. It's an open wound on his psyche that leaves him looking for someone to blame.
true dat!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38737713
again youse have ventured into tabloidism. You can paint any picture you like with a few stills or gifs. rise above it ffs.
LOL at ninfan quoting [i]"Washington Star News - News From The Right"[/i]
OR maybe the press get things wrong?
Surely it's only the lefty liberal MSM that get things wrong?
Those look like some pretty well chosen stills. #fakenews much?
a lot of trumpers have been trying to say the melania smackdown gif is fake news and infact reversed, even though its shown from multiple angles
Here's a link to the exact moment in the inauguration video when it happens.
Oh and that video happens to be RT America channel - not exactly leftie cucks 😀
I reckon he was asking her if she'd packed the rubber sheets and had plenty to drink 😆
his ego will bring him down a lot quicker than his opponents or allies .
Oh dear, it's all falling apart for the lefties now 😀
His huge ego is what helped him win the US presidency.
It's strange how some people still insist on dismissing Trump as a complete loser.
If only it were true.
seosamh77 - Member
again youse have ventured into tabloidism. You can paint any picture you like with a few stills or gifs. rise above it ffs.
yeah suppose ill just have to go by all the things he says to prove that hes a horrible mysoginist dick, who doesnt respect women
I wont bother listing them the torygraph has compiled a few of his nastiest...
It's strange how some people still insist on dismissing Trump as a complete loser.If only it was actually true.
We are more concearned with his huge character flaws, massive ego, inability to listen and absolute certainty in his own decisions while exhibiting a huge lack of judgement on many issues and some very questionable conflict of interst.
He just approved a pipeline in which one of his companies has an interest.
In some ways poking fun of him until he snaps and his head explodes seems like a valid tactic at this point.
Edit the Onion Has started
One of Donald Trump’s central presidential campaign promises was to “drain the swamp” by ridding Washington politics of corruption and corporate influence. Here’s how he plans to do it.Say it a lot
Fill cabinet with Wall Street executives to ensure as many billionaires as possible are incriminated in any potential impeachment proceedings
Cancel Easter Egg Roll
Cut funding for the cesspool of nepotism and greed known as the National Science Foundation
Getting Rick Perry involved should do the trick
Tax cuts for high earners so that CEOs are no longer forced to make ends meet by taking jobs in presidential administration
http://www.theonion.com/live/president-donald-trump-first-100-days-55086/entry/103
How do you know?
I spent the best part of 2 decades in close personal contact with someone who has Narcissistic Personality Disorder.
Trust me, I can spot narcissism a mile off!
In some ways poking fun of him until he snaps and his head explodes seems like a valid tactic at this point.
Why.......because it worked so well before?
Oh dear, it's all falling apart for the lefties now
???
His ego undoubtedly helped him win
It will also be his undoing
see his obsession with proving that 3million fake votes were cast
and using his bridge building talk at the CIA to show that he had the biggest crowds evaaa!
his hubris about his conflicts of interest
his disrespect for women- May, Merkel, etc which one will he insult first?
his refusal to show his tax returns......
Why.......because it worked so well before?
Well it appears to be working, how long will his press sec last when they actually start adding a laughter track to the press conf?
His head of spin who Jamby quoted earlier hasn't even got his office pass yet and he is putting out fires.
Once the first lot go (how much do you need to earn to wake up every morning wondering what tweet your going to have to explain)
He will get bounced by congress on his key issue then have a tantrum.
Normally I would say that we should treat people with respect - in this case the respect he shows others. Keep it going, keep the satire up, keep asking him questions, celbrities keep turning down his invites, refuse to shake his hand
mrlebowski - Member
Oh dear, it's all falling apart for the lefties now
???
ninfans version of reality occasionally intersects with ours but it can be hard to fathom something so incongruous
http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2017/01/25/netherlands-counters-trump-international-abortion-fund
Thank you to the Netherlands. Another one off the Christmas list
So all that's needed is to poke fun at him and wait for his undoing?
Well that's sound easy - I'm surprised no one thought of it before.
Oh wait a minute someone did - the first post on this thread :
Mr Woppit - MemberBeen following his latest outbursts on the campaign trail for nomination.
I've got a sneaking feeling that he'd be an excellent choice, if only for the comedy value.
132 pages later Trump is the President of the United States.
Oh dear, it's all falling apart for the lefties now
Trump is closer to Bernie, than a lot of righties care to admit.
If you're a true red blooded free market righty, then Trump isn't far off ideologically from some tin pot dictator.
We are more concearned with his huge character flaws, massive ego, inability to listen and absolute certainty in his own decisions while exhibiting a huge lack of judgement on many issues and some very questionable conflict of interst.
None of which could be pointed to in Hillary, of course...
Trmp is clearly narcissistic and a psychopath. common in people in business to have these traits but he is right out there. Its completely obvious. read up on narcissistic personality disorder and psychopathy - he is a classic case and fairly extreme.
kimbers - Memberyeah suppose ill just have to go by all the things he says to prove that hes a horrible mysoginist dick, who doesnt respect women
I wont bother listing them the torygraph has compiled a few of his nastiest...
you're blind to your own ridiculous cheer leading. And drowning yourself out when there will be something really important to worry about. But you carry on. People definitely won't get sick of hearing about it.
It's noise, and you're forgetting the big picture here, he's got real power, and needs watched properly, what's in the past is in the past. It's going forward that's important. (and that's not his relationship with his wife.)
Oh dear, it's all falling apart for the lefties now
?? You seem to be defending Trump appearing to generally ignore his wife and treat her like furniture (on a more general background of Trump's attitude towards women) by offering a video of Bill Clinton, a man who had an affair with his intern right under his wife's nose, also not holding hands.
I'm not quite sure how that proves your point? Or any point?
(Also in the video of "Bill not holding Hillary's hand" - it looks a hell of a lot like he holds her hand. But that's a whole different argument)
you're blind to your own ridiculous cheer leading. And drowning yourself out when there will be something really important to worry about. But you carry on. People definitely won't get sick of hearing about it.
It's noise, and you're forgetting the big picture here, he's got real power, and needs watched properly, what's in the past is in the past. It's going forward that's important. (and that's not his relationship with his wife.)
I can enjoy trump being being mocked on twitter though
coz i know itll get under his skin and make him more likely to screw up and drag the republicans down with him
itll be just like capone, his taxes (or something equally mundane) will bring him down
The video is called "Bill Clinton won't hold Hilary's hand". In the video, you can see Bill Clinton holding Hilary's hand. Who uploaded it, Sean Spicer?
the only thing that will bring trump down will be not getting re-elected after 4 years or when he steps down in 8 years time.
It's noise, and you're forgetting the big picture here, he's got real power, and needs watched properly, what's in the past is in the past. It's going forward that's important. (and that's not his relationship with his wife.)
His relationship with his wife is significant as he imposes a majority male cabinet, who on it's first day passed massive bill reducing the health choices of women the world over. He has no repect for women, while he and his alt right buddies and the tea party rejoice at putting religion back in the middle of where it has no place, condemming women to suffering around the world and setting healthcare in his own country backwards the relationship he has with all women will be looked at.
As his wife has pledged to do - she is going to take on cyber bullying, lets see what he tweets about that.
I'll leave youse to that..
His relationship with his wife is significant as he imposes a majority male cabinet, who on it's first day passed massive bill reducing the health choices of women the world over.
Exactly.
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Oh dear, it's all falling apart for the lefties now
?? You seem to be defending Trump
I don't think ninfan knows why he's defending Trump beyond feeling that he's upsetting "lefties" by doing so.
I would be interested in seeing a dyed-in-the-wool Thatcherite such as ninfan defending Trump on issues such as securing miners and steelworkers jobs, and protectionist policies, and opposition to free trade, rather than defending his relationship with his wife.
Of course despite everything he says ninfan isn't a Thatcherite, he isn't anything beyond a smart-arse who thinks he's clever because he can score a few puerile points against "lefties", which appears to mean anyone on here who isn't him.
Calling ninfan smart is a stretch.
Of course despite everything he says ninfan isn't a Thatcherite, he isn't anything beyond a smart-arse who thinks he's clever because he can score a few puerile points against "lefties", which appears to mean anyone on here who isn't him.
Come come Ernie, you said long ago that far from being a Tory, I was a 'right wing anarchist'.
I would agree that On many issues Trump is far more of a Centrist, perhaps even small c conservative, than the Republican Party. But then, Reagan was far to the left of the current party too:
[i]I call upon the scientific community in our country, those who gave us nuclear weapons, to turn their great talents now to the cause of mankind and world peace, to give us the means of rendering those nuclear weapons impotent and obsolete.
Preservation of our environment is not a liberal or conservative challenge, it's common sense
The defense policy of the United States is based on a simple premise: The United States does not start fights. We will never be an aggressor. [/i]
Any of those statements would probably rule him out from leadership of the current party (and we all saw how opposed they were to a Trump leadership too)
Calling ninfan smart is a stretch.
What is it about lefties that whenever they can't win on the points they resort to personal insults? I thought being 'progressive' and standing for social justice and equality meant you were all better than that, and that's why you were all able to maintain the righteous moral high ground? Turns out that it's just a skin deep facade...
do with their reproductive organs
But it's not though, is it? It's seven men saying what taxpayers money can be spent on.
Meanwhile, Trump is on his way to Badlands National Park Service to personally murder their social media guy
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Your point caller?
Do you agree with those things? or do you just want to find another quote to keep running around trying to score points in whatever game you think you are playing?
Donald J. Trump ?@realDonaldTrump 7h7 hours ago
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Signing orders to move forward with the construction of the Keystone XL and Dakota Access pipelines in the Oval Office. – at The Oval Office
Of course making monmey for yourself is a key Rep trait, he does have that one sorted.
A briefing from Trump’s transition team said that the real estate magnate supports the construction of the Dakota Access pipeline and that his backing “has nothing to do with his personal investments and everything to do with promoting policies that benefit all Americans”.Financial disclosure forms released earlier this year show that Trump has a stake in Energy Transfer Partners, the Texas-based firm behind the pipeline, and Phillips 66, which will hold a share of the project once completed.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/dec/02/donald-trump-dakota-access-pipeline-support-investment
The connections to the energy industry doesn’t stop there. The climate-change skeptic owns shares in Phillips 66 PSX +2.42% – a joint venture partner in the controversial Dakota Access pipeline, where demonstrations are ongoing, and in Kinder Morgan, another pipeline giant facing resistance for its plans to connect the Canadian oil sands to Vancouver, British Columbia. Trump also has a small investment in Canadian energy company TransCanada, the developer of Keystone XL pipeline, which was rejected by President Barack Obama last year but supported by Trump.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jenniferwang/2016/11/29/trumps-stock-portfolio-big-oil-big-banks-and-more-foreign-connections/#3d5f626a2434
Swamp Pump blocked. Whiff of corruption getting stronger
seosamh77 - Member
the only thing that will bring trump down will be not getting re-elected after 4 years or when he steps down in 8 years time.
Really....
He is already facing court action for breaching the constitution thru his businesses and I expect more lawsuits shortly. I doubt he will last 4 years
[quote="ninfan"]What is it about lefties that whenever they can't win on the points they resort to personal insults?
[quote="mathew"]first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye
I doubt he will last 4 years
Hmm, how have your previous predictions on Trumps presidential career prospects worked out!
cast out the beam of thine own eye
Yeah, but I'm a horrible right wing loon, I thought the point of being a leftie was that you lot were naturally better than people like me...
It's seven men saying what taxpayers money can be spent on.
More specifically saying that charities and NGOs that run health clinics around the world won't get any Federal funds if they tell women that abortion is a possible option.
Nah ninfan - you are an arguementarian 😉
Just about every political prediction I have made in the last couple of years has been wrong. I am going to change my name to Jeremiah
More specifically saying that charities and NGOs that run health clinics around the world won't get any Federal funds if they tell women that abortion is a possible option.
Along with imposing religious belifes into the US public healthcare system being on the cards. It's a serious and regressive point that as all the veidnce suggest will hurt more people than ever before. What it means in practice is that these organisations will not recieve any funding if they mention abortion so they feel that they cannot operate in a sensible and responsible manner in a way that is legal in the countries they work in. Thankfully the Netherlands has stepped up to fill the void in some ways but the ramerfications of that decision will be far reaching for some of the poorest people in the world.
The press release pic was a massive gaping own goal showing how power is once again safelt back in the hands of conservative white men, if you even wanted to show some kind of balance there he could have got somebody eles in the room or perhaps they all refused.
yip, will bet ye 50 quid to a charity of your choice that he sees out his first 4 years, at least. Assuming he's physically capable. He'll not be 'ousted' politically or scandalously imo.Really....
This year I'm not putting any cash on politics, football is much more predictable.
But here is the case why 4 years is ambitious.
He is already potentially heading to court for breaching the constitution - Hotels and Foreign Dignatries.
He just approved a project that he directly financially benifits from (Court case number 2)
The republicans hate him - he is a nessacary evil and will be there as long as they are getting what they want. He will give enough grounds for impeachment within 12 months throug his ego and inability to listen. The case will be built.
His policies are not ones all republicans will support - there will be a very public spat at some point when something doesn't pass
Russia - the smoke coming from the no fire over the hill
The list will build, his new comrades will fall and he will be left looking for friends.
You'll only need the cash in 4 years time. 😆 so don't think of it as this year's bet. Should I stick a notification to chin you for your donation in my calendar?
Here's one reason he'll last, he's not as stupid as you think. Games on you.
Here's one reason he'll last, he's not as stupid as you think. Games on you.
That may be, but potentially 2 cases withion week 1?
Ther are many smart people out there brought down by much less
[quote=seosamh77 ]Here's one reason he'll last, he's not as stupid as you think. Games on you.
It's not about how stupid he is, it's about how he thinks he can get away with anything, how narcissistic he is and how thin skinned he is. Cleverish, but seriously deluded. He's almost bound to do something they can get him for.
The only trouble with such predictions is that I don't look forward to President Pence.
It's wishful thinking.
seosamh77 - Member
It's wishful thinking.
He has done 2 already. They just need to wait for something they can't gloss over or when he becomes a pain.
"I don't think ninfan knows why he's defending Trump beyond feeling that he's upsetting "lefties" by doing so.
I would be interested in seeing a dyed-in-the-wool Thatcherite such as ninfan defending Trump on issues such as securing miners and steelworkers jobs, and protectionist policies, and opposition to free trade, rather than defending his relationship with his wife.
Of course despite everything he says ninfan isn't a Thatcherite, he isn't anything beyond a smart-arse who thinks he's clever because he can score a few puerile points against "lefties", which appears to mean anyone on here who isn't him."
A three paragraph essay aimed at an individual. No mention of the issue under debate at all. Classy.