If you listen to a few more of Rogan’s podcasts you’ll see that is his style, letting the interviewee talk. It brings out some entertaining insights into the guest,
Which is fine if you want to know more about the person he is ‘interviewing’, but becomes a problem when it’s being used as a political stage for a candidate to talk rubbish without being challenged.
I think it’ll go right down to the wire. Harris will win the popular vote, but Trump will take the college by 30+ points with the entire election decided by less than 200k votes.
Bickering aside.. It should be pretty obvious who's won at the end of election night.
There will be a lot of squealing from the Republicans though... So it might not be officially declared for some time after.
Bickering aside.. It should be pretty obvious who’s won at the end of election night.
If its close the counting could take days and the legal battles weeks-
win or lose Trump will declare victory almost straight away, I dont think it will do the country much good if the legal wranglings drag on, theres a lot of crazies with guns! A decisive victory either way would at least spare the country that.
THe difference to 2020 is that Republicans have been putting lots of work into screwing over the election mechanics. Lots of dodgy folk on election boards locally etc
There is some discussion on twitter that as the republicans currently hold the house, and if HArris wins, its likely the Dems win enough seats to take the house, the republicans will, for phony reasons, delay the confirmation votes for the house on Jan 3, so that it is still effectively republican on Jan 6th, and then the house will not confirm a Harris win. (This is suspected to be the secret between Trump and Mike Johnson that Trump talked about last week)
That's probably when PoopScoop watches the TV through his fingers or from behind the sofa ?
I should try and stay off twitter.......
funkmasterp
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I’m with you apart from the well oiled machine part. It mainly seems to be idiots judging from the mob that stormed the capital last time.
Sorry, I meant to say, the people behind Trump, rather than the gun toting plebs. The real power brokers. I'm sure ive read on here and online in general, that a whole mechanism has now been prepared to formally and "by other means" contest the election if he loses. By other means, I don't mean a conspiracy involving the military or anything, just a concerted effort to stir up real national unrest and violence. Trump would basically just be the front man, pushing the narrative, others would be doing the real work behind the scenes.
In '20 I don't really think even most of his supporters in the GOP etc were really prepared for him to totally deny the GE loss, they just went with it. Now I think it's basically GOP official strategy and they will be way better organised this time.
That’s probably when PoopScoop watches the TV through his fingers or from behind the sofa?
I'll be full on exoecting the zombie apocalypse at this point. Mind you, that's far less scary than President Trump 2: Time to go Ape Shit.
Unless he "turns" whilst still in office of course. I mean, could a doctor even tell the difference between normal (lol!) Trump and Zombie Trump?
Unless he “turns” whilst still in office of course. I mean, could a doctor even tell the difference between normal (lol!) Trump and Zombie Trump?
Is that what the orange facepaint is hiding?
I have some possible work travel coming up - was going to be Austin, TX next weekend, then maybe Phoenix AZ early Dec. The corporate America i interact with seems mostly to be assuming that everything will work out fine - but I'm not sure if I want to be in Arizona when they might be arguing about who won the state
Mrs fadda is visiting family in Texas for a week from tomorrow - how worried should I be...?
I'm going to be in Texas next week. I am not worried. It's already filled with craziness; little is going to change that.
Edit: I tell them I don't understand American politics.
How will the bookies determine who won? (As any failure to “win” by Trump will obviously be contested)
I think most have a "selected by electoral college as of this date" rule.
Although did see that one of the "blockchain" based ones had it based on the consensus of its users. Which could prove interesting.
Unless, by some bizarre miracle, TX flips blue. Then all hell is probably going to break loose!
fadda
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Mrs fadda is visiting family in Texas for a week from tomorrow – how worried should I be…?
Thought of having a henna tattoo on your forehead saying "Vote Harris"? Or "I Like Harris" which is slightly more acceptable over there but might get a few looks over here in the departure lounge I suppose.
I stayed in a couple of hostels in Houston. One of which I was pretty sure I was likely to get murdered in. By the owners. The house looked like one out of a horror movie and the owners and the interior were even worse.
Then I got a greyhound to New Orleans and felt like I'd get murdered. By pretty much everyone. Loved it there though.
Not sure I ever want to go back to the US again. A few illusions id held for decades were well and truly destroyed which still saddens me. I really did learn that just because Americans speak English is a very alien country. To my eyes anyway.
I'd be so happy if Cruz lost. He's a proper ****. Even the Texans don't seem to like him. Smarmy ****ing bastard.
sargey
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As I said a few pages back I am flying in to phoenix on Tuesday, if you want I could do a live feed from downtown Scottsdale!!
Only if you have a jacket with BBC NEWS printed on it. They really dont seen to like the Beeb, those crazy mad MAGA nutters!lol
Its the orange and white minstrel show - wtaf is going on with his face these days....
Can you imagine trying to wash his shirts. Good never get the costs clean. I genuinely reckon he must throw them away after one wear.
There's something deeply weird about his facepaint,
This was from a speech today
Trump says, to laughs from the crowd. “ … I could have had those waves smacking me in the face. That white, beautiful white skin that I have would be nice and tan. I got the whitest skin ’cause I never have time to go out in the sun. But I have that beautiful white, and you know what, it could have been beautiful, tan, beautiful.
butcher
Full MemberI’m half way through the JD Vance episode, which made perfect listening for Halloween. I was struggling to get through it purely for the fact it’s frightening these people are at the top of government. He comes across worse than Trump. Strongly held opinions and beliefs with seemingly little evidence.
Oh Vance is way worse than Trump but not for this reason, he doesn't have any strongly held opinions or beliefs, literally everything is either convenient or tactical. His position on Trump himself makes that pretty obvious but it goes through everything.
The saddest and most disturbing thing I think is his mum. She's a recovering drug addict whose addiction has been almost entirely to prescription drugs, starting out with vicodin which she was given for headaches despite being an alcoholic, she's an absolutely textbook prescription opioid addict along with 2 million other americans (and 1 in 6 of all US drug deaths). Vance is perfectly aware of all of that and for a while was a pretty strong campaigning voice on the real causes of the opioid crisis. Then, I don't think anyone knows exactly when, something shifted and his fake Our Ohio Renewal charity ended up paying a Purdue Pharmaceuticals exec whose speciality was <downplaying> prescription addiction, while of course he raised about $250000 in donations and used it as a political springboard while doing nothing toward's the charities aims.
But anyway, fast forward to today and he's repeatedly blamed immigrants for her addiction and literally had her at campaign events and used her to demand border controls.
Polymarket betting odds not looking good for anyone who was planning on putting their life savings on Harris and cleaning up.
Polymarket betting odds not looking good for anyone who was planning on putting their life savings on Harris and cleaning up.
That's a betting market, not a poll. American's can't bet on it so it just reflects how much money foreigners are willing to bet on each candidate winning.
Musk predicted just the other day that that Trump would hit 69.420 ?. On polymarket
The next day his odds started to fall back down
He also says they are better predictors than polls, so I'd like to see Harris lose just to price him wrong
I'm intrigued, I read somewhere he does his face and hair himself which explains a lot. Do you think he has bad eyesight? My mother always took great care over her make-up, once her eyes started going we had to have the "Barbara Cartland" conversation with her. Somebody needs to have it with Trumpy.
Real leadership material
https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1718741011495547040?t=Jr6Jo1ou1O0XyoKDPKLthA&s=08
Janey Godley's sad death today has a certain comic resonance 'timed' to coincide with the last weekend of the US election campaign. One of her typically colourful career moments is trending massively.
Censored version chosen as not to offend too much all your delicate STW sensitivities - I'm sure the real thing is doing the rounds on mumsnet and it's all over half the mainstream newspapers.
Was gonna post Janey the other day after The Orange Shitgibbon had particularly offended my sensibilities, but then a combo of struggling to post links, and a realisation that I would otherwise do this every single day in the run up to election, meant I didn’t.
Still, she’s not wrong and I will think of her and her sign.
wtaf is going on with his face these days
I’m presuming there was an incident similar to when Ross gets a spray tan on Friends
Trump's hair has been brown most of his life it appears to have become blonde with age, which is unusual.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/photos/2015/09/an-illustrated-history-of-donald-trumps-hair
Good long read here about Trumps campaign being in flux, gives me a bit of hope that they've ballsed it up just enough
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/11/trump-2024-campaign-lewandowski-conway/680456/
But plenty of errors by the Dems own team to point at
One hope is that Musks America PAC that's spent millions on doorknocking in swing states won't be as effective as more motivated dems, whether that's enough though remains to be seen
Musks America PAC that’s spent millions on doorknocking in swing states won’t be as effective as more motivated dems,
Here's hoping...... https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/oct/19/trump-campaign-leaked-data-voters-elon-musk
Trump’s hair has been brown most of his life it appears to have become blonde with age, which is unusual.
Trump went through some serious shit between 1976 and 1985 judging from the photos in that link. It looks like he skipped a huge chunk of the aging process and went straight to old, flabby guy.
