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Have we done the First Amendment Defense Act yet?
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/11/16/the-gop-s-anti-lgbt-anti-women-religious-freedom-law-on-steroids.html
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So today's trumpdate
National security advisor .....
In February, the general posted on Twitter: “Fear of Muslims is RATIONAL”. Then, in July, he retweeted an antisemitic post mocking the Clinton campaign’s blaming of Russian hackers for leaked emails: “CNN implicated. ‘The USSR is to blame!’ Not anymore, Jews. Not anymore.” Flynn later deleted his retweet and apologized, saying it was a mistake;
And attorney general who failed to get the job when Regan put him forward as he had a rep of being too racist
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You're nicked!
Jeff sessions appointed attorney general... That's going to be interesting.....
Trump's appointments seem consistent with his rhetoric inc CIA head and National Security advisor.
jambalaya - Member
Trump's appointments seem consistent with his rhetoric inc CIA head and [b]National Security advisor.[/b]
Indeed tweets Islamaphobic and anti-semetic bollox and loves Putin.
Also wants to intensify the campaign against ISIS, more war in the Middle East is always good and never leads to problems further down the line 😯
"Also wants to intensify the campaign against ISIS,"
Doesn't seem a terrible idea while they're on the back foot on pretty much every front.
Does it mean 'boots on the ground' then ?
I'm not sure it ever works out well
Most likely it means continuation of the existing policy. The intensification is already in progress.
not just boots on the ground but what would surely be the greatest folly in the middle east yet?
a new sunni state? Im sure saudi would pump in the money for the madrassas and happily use wahabism to indoctrinate more radicals to fight against the iranians
ISIS already using Trump presidency as a recruiting tool
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-jihadists-idUSKBN1390FO
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Trump and Putin are doing the right thing.
Both should just join forces.
they already have!
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Good innit. 😛kimbers - Member
they already have!
Now we can all have peace at last.
Happiness and joy for all.
In the meantime a thank you certificate for the participant. 😀
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Good on him for coughing up, it takes a strong man to say that they're sorry.
Just a shame that he was forced into legal action before coughing up (how many more?).
A shame that he couldn't fulfill his promise.
A shame that he still hasn't apologised.
We need the US to have a strong president. 😛
it takes a strong man to say that they're sorry
Or simply the realisation that he was going to loose badly...
Or simply the realisation that he was going to loose badly..
How many tenses would realisation come to him in?
" "I will win the Trump University case. I already am, as far as I'm concerned.
"I could settle that case. I could have settled that case. I just choose not to."'
'I will loose badly. I already am loosing badly. I could realise that. I could have realised it.'
He's President now (or will be in a couple of months), I doubt he cared about fighting the case any longer it just isn't a priority and even if he won it there would be sensationalist news stories during any trial.
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http://road.cc/content/news/211417-%E2%80%9Cdonald-trump%E2%80%9D-claims-box-hill-kom-strava
I had no assistance, you can be sure my thighs are the strongest. Such nasty cyclists. #Sad
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RE- Reddit thread - "LET THE ASTROTURFING COMMENCE"
🙂 why not have a laugh create an account and drive up slowly in the car
Well I am more concerned the Russians will bomb the shit out of hospitals I have no doubt they would push the atomic button
Russians? It was the Americans. Or is this a different hospital.
Trump should Drain The Swamp first cos this is the first priority.
I am not even a tiny bit concerned about the actions of the Russians because I am absolutely and seriously sure they will press the "button".
The only people that will press the button is the polarised West.
Drain the swap!
D'oh! should be [b]Russians will Not[/b] press the button ...I am not even a tiny bit concerned about the actions of the Russians because I am absolutely and seriously sure they will press the "button".
Is it a swamp or a swap? Oh and where is this swamp or swap?
slowoldman - MemberIs it a swamp or a swap? Oh and where is this swamp or swap?
D'oh! ... you are a better Trump supporter than I am ... 😕
Should be "drain the swamp" ... [b]swamp[/b].
I would swap Trump for a swamp.
Be careful chewkw, you are starting to repeat yourself....just like trump.
Don't go full trump, it ain't pretty.
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Oh no not the Washington swamp ... drain it. 😛slowoldman - Member
I would swap Trump for a swamp.
😆 You know it works.somafunk - Member
Be careful chewkw, you are starting to repeat yourself....just like trump.
Actually he has more hairs than I do. If you look at the top of my head you might think you are looking into a mirror and on a sunny day you need to wear shades to look at me.Don't go full trump, it ain't pretty.
Trump is draining the swamp and filing it with snakes and gators 😯
Already accusations of conflicts of interest regarding his daughter, son in law, property deals and numerous violations of protocol.
Yeah he's an outsider turning the system on its head, but he's also going to be scrutinised as never before.... I'm more certain than ever that we are going to see a Nixon-like fall from grace.
a bit of a backclash on his businesses too . call to boycott anything related with the name Trump .
kimbers - MemberTrump is draining the swamp and filing it with snakes and gators
Already accusations of conflicts of interest regarding his daughter, son in law, property deals and numerous violations of protocol.
Who cares what he fills the swamp with so long as he drains the swamp off the current lot of parasites ... drain it. Drain the swap.
He is a businessman of course there will be those who start accusing of business conflict even before his starts his office as President.
It's all perfectly normal for people to target his business etc after all how big a target do you need? It would be a surprise if nobody targets him or his business. Absolutely predictable. Nothing to surprise about.
He is much better than the Kennedy and not as naive as Nixon when business is concerned.Yeah he's an outsider turning the system on its head, but he's also going to be scrutinised as never before.... I'm more certain than ever that we are going to see a Nixon-like fall from grace.
They can boycott all they need who cares while the same can happen to them too.cchris2lou - Member
a bit of a backclash on his businesses too . call to boycott anything related with the name Trump .
He is much better than the Kennedy and not as naive as Nixon when business is concerned.
One word. Bankrupt.
As I said a while ago and probably proven here that Trump's followers are idiots. 😆
One word. Bankrupt.
Two words
President (of the most powerful country in the world)
Billionaire (3.7 I believe)
Boycotting his businesses is going to hurt the rank and file employees more than it is him. Counter productive.
Just to get everyone revved up a bit (could almost .... almost be trolling 😉 )
From what I understand senior government employees such as Trump have a capital gains tax waiver (I know this as ex Goldman guys like Bob Ruben used if) so Trump may be able to hand over control of his affairs and run a planned sale (& buyback ?) programme realising capital gains (many billions worth) and will not be liable to any tax.
I am sure that any boycott won't hurt him financially but it will piss him off quite a lot considering his ego .
On his business, he has to get rid or blind trust completely. His kids can't run it or own it etc. (according to the experts)
His worth is still subject to debate as he didn't want to reveal anything and given his history could be tied to several dodgy business dealings. If the desire to avoid scrutiny by settlement the cases could start and pile up too.
The role of president actually comes with a lot of responsibility, seeing as some of the stuff he wanted to do is outside his power or not legal he will have to be very careful.
If you win on a platform of getting rid of the self interest how many stories of nepotism and making a win for somebody will people stomach.
Where as some see him as the messiah we all know he is just a very naughty boy.
The role of president actually comes with a lot of responsibility, seeing as some of the stuff he wanted to do is outside his power or not legal he will have to be very careful.
I think he will find his wings quite quickly trimmed by the real holders of power. He's going to be a puppet.
From what I understand senior government employees such as Trump have a capital gains tax waiver (I know this as ex Goldman guys like Bob Ruben used if) so Trump may be able to hand over control of his affairs and run a planned sale (& buyback ?) programme realising capital gains (many billions worth) and will not be liable to any tax.
Which I can well believe, and eveyone thought he wanted to be president to help others.
#UltimateDeal
#Suckers.
and that is going to be the real issue .
an elected president is not a dictator . he must be used to have his own way all the time .
Financially I doubt it. Politically he is just starting. Clinton on the other hand ...slowoldman - Member
One word. Bankrupt.
Did you see the face of Clinton supporters when news announced that Trump has become President Elect. Priceless.captainsasquatch - Member
As I said a while ago and probably proven here that Trump's followers are idiots.
I think that's what his business competitors have been doing to him all these years so I think he has a rather thick skin.cchris2lou - Member
I am sure that any boycott won't hurt him financially but it will piss him off quite a lot considering his ego.
That's his personal affairs. People just want jobs.mikewsmith - Member
On his business, he has to get rid or blind trust completely. His kids can't run it or own it etc. (according to the experts)
If he does not want to reveal his financial affairs that's his prerogative is it not? Is there a law that requires him to declare. Don't you think the law would have got him long ago if that is a criminal offense?His worth is still subject to debate as he didn't want to reveal anything and given his history could be tied to several dodgy business dealings. If the desire to avoid scrutiny by settlement the cases could start and pile up too.
Yes, learn on the job so how hard can that be?The role of president actually comes with a lot of responsibility, seeing as some of the stuff he wanted to do is outside his power or not legal he will have to be very careful.
Judge him after 8 years. Yes, he will be there for 2 terms.If you win on a platform of getting rid of the self interest how many stories of nepotism and making a win for somebody will people stomach.
I see him as a person to drain the swamp and to get rid of Clinton crooks.Where as some see him as the messiah we all know he is just a very naughty boy.
and as if it's only just a starter for 10
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-11-19/hamilton-cast-addresses-mike-pence-at-broadway-show/8040168
It's going to be a very long long 4 years if he is waiting for anyone who doesn't agree to apologise
US President-elect Donald Trump has demanded an apology from the cast of the Broadway hit Hamilton for appealing from the stage to Vice President-elect Mike Pence to uphold American values as he sat in the theatre audience.Mr Trump took time out from his search for appointees to his incoming administration to tweet that Mr Pence "was harassed last night at the theatre by the cast of Hamilton, cameras blazing. This should not happen!"
"The Theatre must always be a safe and special place. The cast of Hamilton was very rude last night to a very good man, Mike Pence. Apologise!" Mr Trump tweeted.
I wanted to quote someone, but apparently there are none left. 🙁
Financially I doubt it.
"Trump has never filed for personal bankruptcy, but hotel and casino businesses of his have been declared bankrupt six times between 1991 and 2009".
Chewkw did you actually say he had thick skin. If someone looks at him funny he attacks them on twitter and threatens to sue, if he makes it through four years without being impeached or starting a world war then I'd be surprised.
captainsasquatch - Member
I wanted to quote someone, but apparently there are none left.
Just give it a minute one comes along soon enough. May be time to engage the filter though, that last one was more like the bloke in the corner of the old pub...
also for a man with thick skin he is very fast with the threats to sue
http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/entry/heres-a-comprehensive-ish-list-of-all-the-people-and-things-donald-trump-has-threatened-to-sue-since-running-for-president_us_580f9883e4b000d0b158e61e
Must be something to do with having such tiny hands
Trump has never filed for personal bankruptcy, but hotel and casino businesses of his have been declared bankrupt six times between 1991 and 2009".
@Slow but that's how you run commercial real estate portfolios, you put each building / group of buildimgs in a seperate trust with it's own debt and some equity and then see how it goes. If one project (or 6) go down they don't drag the whole portfolio down. The lenders are well aware of that, it's just the way fhe business works. Commercial real estate is notoriously boom and bust and se involved in it are pretty agressive financially. Think of it like investing in 10 internet startups, 6 go bust, 3 struggle and 1 is Facebook/Google.
As Trump would say he is "smart" years 6 projects have failed but he is still a billionaire.
I think fighting back with twitter is the least he can do or to use the law after all that is the name of the game. i.e. within the law of the society.akira - Member
Chewkw did you actually say he had thick skin. If someone looks at him funny he attacks them on twitter and threatens to sue, if he makes it through four years without being impeached or starting a world war then I'd be surprised.
it does help when your dad is a billionaire too .
Well I'm not sure would trust him with running a nation. So it's just as well he has layers of legislature to control what he actually can do.
@Slow but that's how you run commercial real estate portfolios, you put each building / group of buildimgs in a seperate trust with it's own debt and some equity and then see how it goes.
Then you raise cash for another separate business, swap some around, move the cash, dupe the investors and roll on. Then take some more family cash to bail out another cock up and keep going...
As Trump would say he is "smart" years 6 projects have failed but he is still a billionaire.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Branson a better example I think, how would Trump have faired withough a massive family fortun to bail him out?
As Trump would say he is "smart" years 6 projects have failed but he is still a billionaire.
Bearing in mind he hasn't released his tax records (which are not important), and we aren't likely to see where he made his money. You are still happy to espouse his business credentials when it is just as likely that he has employed a decent stockbroker as the S&P gains on his initial inheritence of $200m are on a par with his wealth gains from mega business deals of his own making.
If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's probably fishy. 😕
Judge him after 8 years. Yes, he will be there for 2 terms.
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@mike Family Fortune, it doesn't matter. If he knew he had that in reserve he quite probably took more risk.
The "boo hiss you are no good at business" is pretty ridiculous when he is worth $3.7bn and is now POTUS to boot
The "boo hiss you are no good at business" is pretty ridiculous when he is worth $3.7bn and is now POTUS to boot
Some say $8.7bn (inc S&P if he had just put into the stock market, oops), but we'll never know as he won't release his tax details. If you're happy to hang your business knowledge on the back of this chap, don't be surprised if I don't have much respect for your supposed know how.
He will be found out, he will be found wanting and he will fail big time. He won't be able to chew what he has bitten off this time.
trump says 10bn
forbes reckons hes worth 3.7bn (down from 4.5) as he lost quite a lot in bad property deals in the last couple of years as I understand it the majority f it is in property
who knows how much he inherited from his dad 100-200 million?
he also got quite a lot before his dad died >50 million?
for tax efficiency reasons Im sure we will never know
back to his appointments, his new domestic policy advisor- Blackwell- believes that homosexuality is a sin and can be cured by aversion therapy!
nice to see that bigotry and stupidity are being carried over from his campaign into the presidency 😯
is pretty ridiculous when he is worth $3.7bn and is now POTUS to boot
Did he tell you that he was worth that...
I think the point is there is a lot of sailing close to the wind, really bad calls/gambles that meant he lost a lot of money, ruined businesses and ended up with him/creditors/employees losing out to some very significant amounts. All qualities that are desirable in government?
He does remind me a bit of anther Business man turned politician https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clive_Palmer
who entered politics because the party he supported wou;dn't do what he wanted... lasted 1 term and the complete destruction of the party he started.
There are various ways of being good at business, some are more ethical and moral, others simply look at the bottom line figure. Again some of those qualities are much much better for people in government to have.
More like backfilling the swamp... with nutters
Another Trump success leading to another humiliating lawsuit payout
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_University
Wow the anti-defamation league taking a strong stand against Trump
The adf have objected strongly to the anti Semitic stuff on Breitbart for a while and are none too pleased about Bannons appointment, Breitbart in turn has been relentlessly criticising them recently.
Interesting analysis here on why (and how) he won.
LSE.
My (very short) take on it all is: Trump as a person is an extremely nice, personable chap (first hand experience), but as a Presidential candidate, he's already unleashed far too many flying monkeys to be trusted with the keys.
It is interesting to note though, that one factor in his success has been the media's sensationalising of what he's said up to now. Same as with Brexit: by any non-partisan view, the economy has very much suffered, but the pro-brexiters can claim (with some right) that because it hasn't suffered the full set of Osborne's predictions, we're 'doing well'. The sky hasn't fallen in, its just that the clouds are sitting a bit lower and its been raining ever since.
Well, same for Trump. He's not a fit candidate*, but you only had to hear what he actually said, and in context, to know that- sensationalising what he said ultimately did him a huge favour as it led to his opponents sneering at his supporters...and the inevitable backlash.
We've lost something in the media, I think we'd all agree.
*Neither was HRC.
We've lost something in the media, I think we'd all agree.
Not everyone. The media is pedalling that nobody listens to them anymore and they get all their [made up] new from Facebook instead.
Certainly some truth in that. You'd never guess Brexit was the popular vote if you got your news here.
You'd never guess Brexit was the popular vote if you got your news here.
It's all about where you look though
Go on the daily mail comments and you'd never guess it was won by a tiny margin and was obviously bad for our economy
As with the Trump election....
Donald J. Trump ? @realDonaldTrump
The electoral college is a disaster for a democracy.
4:45 AM - 7 Nov 2012
Donald J. Trump ? @realDonaldTrump
He lost the popular vote by a lot and won the election. We should have a revolution in this country!”
]Donald J. Trump ? @realDonaldTrump
The phoney electoral college made a laughing stock out of our nation. The loser one!
The thing that always bothered me with Trump University is for some who recons he's worth $10+ billion why is he dealing with what is "pocket change" and it's not as if it's a philanthropic exercise either it's/was a for profit outfit.
I went along to vote in our own primaries this morning. There was a good turn out so 70+ people in and around the polling station. No-one who looked under thirty five. Lots of fur-coated and 250e-shoed ladies, many grannies and grandads, lots of flash cars (by French standards). If there were any socialist intruders they were well disguised but I suspect there were a few bleu marine voters covering both bases.
I voted for a candidate as far from the Trump profile as possible.
Same as with Brexit: by any non-partisan view, the economy has very much suffered, but the pro-brexiters can claim (with some right) that because it hasn't suffered the full set of Osborne's predictions, we're 'doing well'.
But Brexit hasn't occurred yet.
Trump's father was worth $200m and is understood to have divided his estate equally so Trump got 1/5th or $40m. No one is faultless in business, if you look at Lord Sugar he has made most of his money in property and not in retail / electronics.
News. Yup agreed the mainstream news has become disconnected from the population, this is partly as so few people buy papers or even watch tv news and those that do tend to be a certain demographic (ie generally educated white liberals). I think you see this in opinion polls which are hugely influenced by the news outlet commissioning them. The media has become consumed by "group think" and obsessed with pigeon holing people and policy ideas.
I have started following the ADL, indeed a strong statement that its head would register as a Muslim however I think the database idea is more for new immigrants than existing citizens.
Edukator I wll report on dress code etc later 🙂 I do find it odd that like Corbyn/Labour it's possible to vote for the candidate to do most damage the parties chances if you are an opponent of the UMP.
But Brexit hasn't occurred yet.
So what? Project fear was full of immediate threats. Punishment budget for example.
But Brexit hasn't occurred yet.
Indeed not but the Armageddon predictions from Osbourne and IMF where for immediate recession (inc global) upon a Leave vote. A punsihment budget etc (EDIT 5th beat me to it) we all saw through that as total bollix and all Remain did was discredit themselves
Personally I believe if the predictions had been for a slowdown in growth from 2.2 to 1.4 and a 15% fall in £ an even larger number of people would have said, ok that's not too bad we can manage that and it's worth it.
On Trump he wasn't a suitable person to have the "nuclear codes" ... clearly rubbish he is not going to start a nuclear war is he ? There is a strong body of opinion that Obama's deal with Iran is more likely to lead to that than anything Trump will do.
jambalaya - Member
No one is faultless in business, if you look at Lord Sugar he has made most of his money in property and not in retail / electronics.
This interview is so funny @ 0:40 seconds into the clip about Trump sparring partner Lord Sugar.
Trump: "Yeaaa no, he is a small timer ..." 😆
Lord Sugar then responded ...
These two are pals ... 😆
For those of you that think the "right" is going to destroy the world etc you lot are basically brainwashed.
Vladimir Putin humiliates BBC Reporter John Simpson
jambalaya - Member
On Trump he wasn't a suitable person to have the "nuclear codes" ... clearly rubbish he is not going to start a nuclear war is he ? There is a strong body of opinion that Obama's deal with Iran is more likely to lead to that than anything Trump will do.
Trump will Not start a war with anyone unless Merica is seriously threaten physically. Other countries will find it very difficult to compete with him business wise. He will trade with everyone.
As for the Obama leftard administration they are more likely to be the real threat to world peace than many other "rouge nations".
chewkw - Member
For those of you that think the "right" is going to destroy the world etc you lot are basically brainwashed.
Absolutely, no rational thought here at all...
[b]This is to restore Merica relationship with Russia hopefully world peace.[/b]
Putin crushes CNN smartass Fareed Zakaria on Donald Trump and US elections
Did Putin just say he wouldn't interfere with the politics of other counties, so he in no way tried to influence the election by leaking emails etc. If you're using Putin to prove your point I'm not sure your point is worth making.
And yet sterling had crashed, worst performing currency in the world this year.
If not for Carney pumping an extra 300m of QE into the system we could have seen a recession. As it is growth [b]has[/b] slowed
Investors eg Nissan are demandinging promises of compensation.
Our trade deficit has widened even with our falling currency.
Food and fuel prices have risen and are set to rise further.
As for punishment budget- Austerity has been abandoned !
Hammond's budget now had to deal with 100bn Brexit black hole.
Which means the NHS, education, social services will not the extra investment.
Brexiter post truth politics is all about denial of the damage the vote alone has done.
I'm sure that Trump will spin it on exactly the same way. Judging by the reactions of Brexiters on here and elsewhere, his voters will also buy & repeat the lies 100% too.