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Jeezus the Guardian are milking the Trump election victory for all it's worth. I have just seen this at the end of a Guardian online article :
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I found "we will hold the coming administration to account" particularly interesting. How does a British low circulation newspaper expect to hold the President of the United States to account?
In funnier news; Stephen King has been thrown off X for calling Elon the “First Lady”
Ha! I wonder if my account has been blocked then, I’ve referred to Muskrat as Dementia Don’s new First Lady in several posts! I’ll leave it for a week or so before checking.
"No, not THAT kind of free speech!"
How does a British low circulation newspaper expect to hold the President of the United States to account?
I was never sure what the phrase meant, now it has become virtually meaningless. So anyone can hold anyone else to account just by saying so.
In funnier news; Stephen King has been thrown off X for calling Elon the “First Lady”
I can't attend Musk.
He went to court to defend his right to call a guy a pedo for literally saving the lives of a load of kids trapped underwater in a cave... But suspend someone for what is a obviously a satirical joke.
Why are these far right defenders of their self approved type of free speech such snow flakes when it really comes down to it?
found “we will hold the coming administration to account” particularly interesting. How does a British low circulation newspaper expect to hold the President of the United States to account?
47 million US readers and growing.
By comparison Fox News typically gets between 1.5 and 2.5m viewers.
When in power Trump puts incredible strain on the press. It doesn't matter when his bulllshit is coming out through Truth Social or from a Mar a Lago fundraiser. But when it's coming out through Whitehouse channels it both can't be ignored but also can't just be printed verbatim without proper journalistic due diligence.
Trump says he's doing things more than he actually does them, so the volume of output the media has to cover is huge and 10s or 1000s of his Whitehouse briefings contained lies which had to be checked and countered. The strain news rooms were under through the first administration was emmence - (theres a fly on wall documentary out there somewhere of one of the US paper's battling to deal with the sheer tide of bullshit)
What makes Trump problematic in that sense is he's fundamentally a bullshitter rather than a lier. To tell a lie you need to know what the truth is in order to deceive people. A bullshitter has no idea what the truth is and doesn't care whether what they are saying is true or not - they don't have any of the tells of a lier becuase they don't even know if they are lying. So to fact check him its not just a case of presenting the truth you have to try and find out if there even is a truth.
So the Guardian has more influence in US politics than Fox News?
I will bear that in mind the next time I hear that everything is the fault of the right-wing media.
Edit: Btw the adult population of the United States is approximately 258 million, it is impressive to think nearly a fifth of them read the Guardian. Shame that the Guardian doesn't have that sort of influence in the UK, presumably.
47 million US readers and growing.
I doubt that.
Are they just counting hits on their site?
Given the recent election result, how can we be sure there are 47 million Americans who can read?
Guardian stats are clicks onto their website. For comparison that is roughly the same as The Daily Mail.
fenderextender
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Wait until folk figure out what making up the US shortfall in Ukraine’s defence will do to standards of living in Europe.
I was just reading this funnily enough. The EU partly, allowing a huge "levelling up" fund to now be spent (mostly indirectly) on military infrastructure etc.
I'm glad they are using Trump's isolationist policies seriously. A bit late mind you and still a long way to go!
Hopefully it's readable.

willard
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Jan 6th rioter expecting a pardon:Quote of the year: ‘“I believe he’s a man of his word,” Evans told the BBC.’
AHHHHHAhahahahahahahahahahaha.
In fairness he probably will as it's an easy win to keep his base onside... But yeah, expecting him to do it due to being a man of his word! Hmmm....!
I think we will see more of what the next season of Trump, will be like pretty quick ,if he does pardon the rioters it’s going to be over the steal of the previous election which won’t be good.
^^ He's going to really go for it over the next 4 years. I have no idea where the worlds is going to end up. About the only positive I can rake up is that Europe will finally realise the US can no longer be relied upon. Pity we aren't part of the EU in these uncertain times though! Its a shit time to be going it alone.
Going to be one hell of a ride!l
What makes Trump problematic in that sense is he’s fundamentally a bullshitter rather than a lier. To tell a lie you need to know what the truth is in order to deceive people. A bullshitter has no idea what the truth is and doesn’t care whether what they are saying is true or not – they don’t have any of the tells of a lier becuase they don’t even know if they are lying. So to fact check him its not just a case of presenting the truth you have to try and find out if there even is a truth.
The other issue is he will ‘weaponise’ everything you do and effectively turn it back on you as an organised ‘witch hunt’.
The continual attacking trumps lies actually doesn’t seem to be the solution to the problem.
The continual attacking trumps lies actually doesn’t seem to be the solution to the problem.
Allow him to install a macdonalds in the foyer of the whitehouse and bring on the heart attack, trouble is then we'd have vance as president and all the trump appointed freaks and goons running around.
Isn’t Ukraine in Europe? Or aren’t their standards of living important?
Ukraine is on the globe and global security is a global concern. What's your point?
Allow him to install a macdonalds in the foyer of the whitehouse
There already is one in the Pentagon.
So this just appeared in the middle of my Strava feed - it's tempting....

Maybe as the Eu, or for me the UK, we should start charging the likes of Musk, Zuc, Bezo, et. al.
A fair charge to operate in this territory?
People whine like pigs when tax goes up, but they forget the UK government is giving away billions upon billions to offshore acconts.
Just spoke to a US friend in Florida. He's very happy that Trump won and is already giving him credit for the price of petrol falling at the pumps.
already giving him credit for the price of petrol falling at the pumps.
Truly God moves in mysterious ways.
already giving him credit for the price of petrol falling at the pumps.
Last time I checked (checks notes) the dems are still running the US government? Maybe they should be thanking Biden or the global oil prices?
It's gonna get really ****** up really quickly when trump is sworn in, in January.
price of petrol falling at the pumps.
Let's hope the leopards don't eat his face when the trump tariffs increase the cost of living. I'm sure he is thinking it'll only affect the libs.
Let’s hope the leopards don’t eat his face when the trump tariffs increase the cost of living. I’m sure he is thinking it’ll only affect the libs.
Yeah, that's going to come as a bit of a surprise to many over there.
Sadly, it's going to hit our economy, not to mention pretty much most other economies in the world one way or another. If not directly, in other ways.
All that said, poor bloody Ukraine and Gaza.
As for the middle East in general, I wonder if Trump will give the nod for Israel to hit Iran's nuclear sites if things get heated again. Can't say id be surprised.
Truly God moves in mysterious ways.
Much like the passage of faeces through my non functioning colon
Sadly, it’s going to hit our economy
I expect the right wing media - DM, Express etc will be blaming the Labour party for any issues.
Remember, its not the fault of Trump, or even Brexit, even though we would have had a lot more clout were we still a part of. It is all the fault of Keir Starmer and the Labour party
I see that Trump has appointment Elon Musk as the head of a newly created "Department of Government Efficiency", which despite its name won't actually be a government department at all and will very handily get round the little problem of laws governing federal employees and conflicts of interest.
What could possibly go wrong with someone who has no experience in government being responsible for running the United States government administration as if it is a business? I believe that Elon Musk wants to scrap three quarters of government departments.
Mr Musk has previously made clear his desire to see cut backs on "government waste" and in a post on his X platform suggested he could axe as many as three-quarters of the more than 400 federal departments in the US, writing: "99 is enough".
I bet that Trump's declared greatest foe, China, will be carefully scrutinising the benefits that small/tiny government brings the United States.
As long as the top jobs like defence secretary go to someone sensible it'll all work out fine....
I see that Trump has appointment Elon Musk as the head of a newly created “Department of Government Efficiency”, which despite its name won’t actually be a government department at all and will very handily get round the little problem of laws governing federal employees and conflicts of interest.
What could possibly go wrong with someone who has no experience in government being responsible for running the United States government administration as if it is a business? I believe that Elon Musk wants to scrap three quarters of government departments.
Funny isn't it that the electorate at large won't mind people in the deep state joining the unemployment queue...
What could possibly go wrong
Was my immediate reaction. More worried by that appointment than Trumps election win, though it's a bit chicken and egg
How long until Trump turns on Musk? I will give it 6 months after the handover at most, and wouldn't be surprised if it even happens before the election certification.
The Secretary of Defense is being described as a "military veteran".
While technically correct, he was a junior officer in the National Guard.
he was a junior officer in the National Guard
Who deployed on more than one occasion to a theatre of war, has a CIB and Bronze Star.
So very correct to describe him as a 'military veteran', although the actual technical term would be 'Combat Veteran'.
This isn't the burn you think it is.
Mr Hesgeth has plenty of questionable things in his recent past that may make him a random pick. His military career isn't one of them.
How long until Trump turns on Musk? I will give it 6 months after the handover at most,
We're assuming it will be Trump kicking out Musk and not the other way around? Getting rid of presidents and elections is a sure fire way to improve government efficiency.
How long until Trump turns on Musk?
Or maybe the other way round? Or perhaps both against each other simultaneously?
Their relationship brings to mind the Boris Johnson Dominic Cummings relationship to me. Although I am not sure if the relationship between lazy and incompetent narcissists and their overambitious advisors always pan out the same.
@relapsed_mandalorian - How does that make him qualified to have a senior appointment in the US Government?
He's a man who left the military because he felt his politics left him ostracised.
He was a Covid denier.
He called for convicted war criminals to be pardoned.
He is a climate change denier.
He's more Trump than Trump.
Just because he's was a part time junior officer, doesn't qualify him for his new role.
His real job was an "equity capital markets analyst ".
How does that make him qualified to have a senior appointment in the US Government?
He didn't say it did! This is what he said..
Mr Hesgeth has plenty of questionable things in his recent past that may make him a random pick. His military career isn’t one of them.
I agree he's a terrible choice, but I also agree it's not because of his military service history
Exactly why does his military service, or lack thereof (in your opinion) disqualify him?
Was Rumsfeld qualified? Panetta? And look how things went under their tenure.
All the other stuff you've listed is more than enough reason to question his suitability for the role, but his service in your wholly unqualified and ignorant position is not.
How does that make him qualified to have a senior appointment in the US Government?
I think that is the surprising aspect of the appointment, the fact that the current Secretary of Defense has an impressive portfolio of commands which Trump's appointee does not begin to match.
Although in fairness Trump might struggle to find a highly qualified person whose views closely match his for the post
Edit: The reference to Rumsfeld is a fair one although Rumsfeld was widely seen as a political heavyweight rather than a TV presenter. Plus it is of course debatable whether Rumsfeld proved to be an effective Secretary of Defense.
Tbf..how many of the uk's previous defense secretaries had military exp? A quick Google tells me not many.
he fact that the current Secretary of Defense has an impressive portfolio of commands
Yet still managed to lie and obfuscate congress and go AWOL, 'impressive' commands or no, he hasn't covered himself in glory.
But more a politician than Hesgeth.
Exactly why does his military service, or lack thereof (in your opinion) disqualify him?
It neither qualifies him or disqualifies him.
It's spin. It's the fetism of the armed forces.
It's the same as Penny Mordaunt dressing in a RN Captains uniform and people saying she would make a great PM as she can hold a sword.
Just because he's shot at people and been shot at does not mean he's going to be any good at something entirely unrelated. Or make him a better person.
The man's an absolute piece of shit.
Tbf..how many of the uk’s previous defense secretaries had military exp? A quick Google tells me not many.
If you look back through the US Defense Secretary appointments quite a few have been non-military, I don't think it's an issue at all. One could argue it may help with relationships but your knowledge will be weighted in your area of service, so you'll be left with blindspots in regards to the other arms of which the US has a far wider portfolio than the UK.
Even the godlike Mattis didn't last long under Trump, I image Hesgeth will last even less, that's if he even gets confirmed.
Tbf..how many of the uk’s previous defense secretaries had military exp? A quick Google tells me not many.
Isn't that because in the UK Defence Secretaries have to be members of parliament which restricts the choice? In the United States they can have a very lengthy military career, I think it is also much more expected in the US that they have a military background.
Trump's choice suggests nepotism more than a carefully thought appointment.
Or make him a better person.
The man’s an absolute piece of shit.
Maybe next time lead with that, his behaviour as a civilian is of far more relevance to suitability.
It’s the fetism of the armed forces.
This your first time discovering the USA?
Anyhoo, not unsurprising he's Trump's pick, he'll want a suitable scapegoat when the time comes and someone respectable won't be so easy to burn. He learned that lesson with Mattis.
Isn’t that because in the UK Defence Secretaries have to be members of parliament which restricts the choice?
It used to be similar in the USA, there was a rule that meant senior military leaders couldn't be elected to congress within 7 years of leaving their service. Trump changed this to get Mattis in the door.
Trump’s choice suggests nepotism more than a carefully thought appointment.
I think both could be true in this case.
Putin must be dancing a little jig around the Kremlin right now.
I read something yesterday that Trump is looking to make a lot of the senior positions in his government "Acting Secretary..." because it means that he does not have to have the holder of the position confirmed by Congress. That essentially opens up the roles to people like Space Karen and the former talking head from Fox & Friends.
Also, a little link about the new SecDef:
I'm not denigrating his service record (I recognise his achievements), but a junior officer (which he was) may not make the best person to hold the position of head of five branches of the military with a strategic oversight it demands.
As for Mattis, he was a professional soldier with a lifetime of experience and someone that apparently had little tolerance for incompetence. I'm not surprised that Trump hired him (Mattis was an excellent choice) but I am honestly not surprised that he and Trump fell out given Trumps, errrrr, unique, errrrrr, yeah, you know.
Trump’s choice suggests nepotism more than a carefully thought appointment
So, nothing new there, then
I see that Trump has appointment Elon Musk as the head of a newly created “Department of Government Efficiency”
Which spells DOGE. They're just ****ing around for the LOLs.
Basically, promising to slim down the bureaucracy and eliminate waste is standard political talk, it impresses a lot of voters. The reason the bureaucracy keeps growing is because a lot of people like the services it provides. It's not like a profit making business where you can just eliminate unprofitable products, the point of government services is that they are supposed to be unprofitable, they are services that the private sector can't provide at a profit.
The biggest components in the federal budget are, I believe, Social Security, MedicAid/Medicare, and defense. The first two are entitlement programs, Congress has required the bureaucracy to provide the services so they can't be cut without congressional approval. Tens of millions of Trump voters in red states rely on those services so it's very difficult to cut them much. Trying to save money by firing bureaucrats will result in angry military veterans appearing on tv news shows complaining that it takes them weeks to get any reply assistance when they need help. That's the kind of news story that no politician wants to be held responsible for.
The military budget is discretionary, but it's also very difficult to cut much out of that, especially if you like posing as a tough guy the way Trump does. Every military program has a constituency, the voters in the states that build the hardware or host the military bases won't want their part of the budget cut. Suppliers are smart enough to make sure that their factories are spread around both red and blue states so that there will be politicians on both sides fighting for every program.
I have no idea what Elon will try to do but I think he's going to find trimming the bureaucracy much harder than trimming the Twitter workforce.
I’m not denigrating his service record (I recognise his achievements), but a junior officer (which he was) may not make the best person to hold the position of head of five branches of the military with a strategic oversight it demands.
Which is a fair and open challenge @Willard, and I agree, but the counter is what qualified the civilian incumbents through the years?
Prior military service can be argued either way as a pro or a con in my view, the detail is what your heads of services bring. Competence at working at that strategic level is what is key and Hesgeth doesn't seem to have any experience of that on his CV.
As an FYI, Chuck Hagel was and still is the only enlisted person to have held the position.
Maybe next time lead with that, his behaviour as a civilian is of far more relevance to suitability.
It was a response to Trump leading with "a Warrior for the Troops".
This your first time discovering the USA?
Not at all.
I spent time with the US Military, who run the equivalent Department, of the civilian ran department, who I worked for in the Uk MoD. Although the difference in scale of resource did feel a bit embarrassing at times.
Even the godlike Mattis didn’t last long under Trump,
Main problem with Mattis is Trump seems to have only read the headlines on "mad dogs" attitude to actual combat.
He missed all the stuff about how Mattis was also a firm believer in trying to avoid reaching that stage and so was a fan of cultural sensitivity training etc.
Incase anyone's in any doubt which direction Trump is going to head in regard to Israel and Gaza:
As we've been reporting, Mike Huckabee is Donald Trump's pick to be the next US ambassador to Israel
The former Arkansas governor and Baptist minister made his first trip to Israel in 1973 and has since led dozens of Christian missions to the country, with whom he he has declared a "visceral, personal" connection. During a 2018 visit, he donned a hard hat and laid bricks for a new housing complex in the West Bank settlement of Efrat, saying he "might one like to purchase a holiday home" there.
In his first run for president in 2008, Huckabee said: "There's really no such thing as a Palestinian." When he ran again in 2016, before dropping out and endorsing Trump, he vowed to back the expansion of settlements in the West Bank, which he called "an integral part" of Israel
So, yeah...
Main problem with Mattis is Trump seems to have only read the headlines on “mad dogs” attitude to actual combat.
He missed all the stuff about how Mattis was also a firm believer in trying to avoid reaching that stage and so was a fan of cultural sensitivity training etc.
Aye, he was wholly unprepared for having a professional in the White House, one who actually stood by his values and principles. He was championed by the USMC, but those on the inside questioned it and said he wouldn't last in politics because of those principles. Which was the reality, and mad respect to him for standing tall. His resignation letter was classy too.
So that said, in a lot of ways Hesgeth is uniquely qualified to serve under Trump.
So, yeah…
Oh, ****...
I'm starting to think that the US's next 4 years it's going to be the equivalent of our last 8 or so Tory years. As it's America though, it'll be on steroids.
The hubris, massive overestimates of talent and huge personal and policy failures could be incredible and terrifying to witness in equal measure.
In a rather tragic way, we might get to see, on a huge scale, what a Faragesque, far right government wrecking ball can do to the worlds largest economy. We withdrew from Europe, they are about to withdraw from the world.
I think it might finally out the neoliberal agenda for what it really is. I can see a lot of American voters getting punched straight in the face by the results of applying simple solutions, enacted by arrogant narcissists to complex problems.
It'll be entertaining I suppose.
@relapsed_mandalorian Accepted. There are some cases where I can see a civilian having, or providing, a unique and relevant view to such a large, diverse and specific organisation, experience of foreign relations/diplomacy or maybe a large and diverse multinational might be considered relevant.
I really do not want to denigrate the Guard (or reserves in general), but they are not full-time military and it is painfully obvious to see that sometimes (unless they have prior full-time service).
I'm hoping @Poopscoop 's view up there is not going to come to fruition, but I suspect we will see something very close.
I think it might finally out the neoliberal agenda for what it really is. I can see a lot of American voters getting punched straight in the face by the results of applying simple solutions, enacted by arrogant narcissists to complex problems.
The worry is, like over here, they will lash out/punch down rather than have any introspective Damascene revelations.
I’m hoping @Poopscoop ‘s view up there is not going to come to fruition, but I suspect we will see something very close.
I'm hoping for what a lot of us over here ended up hoping for with the Tories as they imploded. That Trump's administration proves so dysfunctional that half of what they want to do simply doesn't happen.
I mean, for these huge changes to happen over there, you'll need a large, functional federal government, right?
But... But...! Musk is about to take a wrecking ball to it all, the very machine they need to enact all their batshit stuff! 😀
I have no idea what Elon will try to do but I think he’s going to find trimming the bureaucracy much harder than trimming the Twitter workforce.
It will be very interesting to see what happens to the SLS program. It's a massive waste of $billions for something that can be supplied by private companies for a mere fraction of what Boeing et al want.
Musk would [rightly] love to to bin it off BUT SpaceX would pick up the work so a huge conflict of interests and a number of interested parties [senators] would be very pissed off.
I think sunshine mending the likelihood of trump falling out with Musk?
Let's face it, it's likely. This is the Beebs quick take on it.
Keep an eye on how these two men get on: they’re both volatile, argumentative and controversial. And both like to be number one – so if this new arrangement leaves one of them feeling they are not, Elon Musk’s new path could soon turn into a going of separate ways.
Id actually put a bet on the fact they do fall out and it will be a HUGE public spat that will rumble in for years.
Safe bet I reckon.
To tear ourselves away from all this and focus on something more positive. The social event of the century is approaching - Trumps second Inauguration Ball.
Grab your tuxedo- Imagine how many invited performers have already turned it down even at this early stage and Trumps aids desperately burn through their address books
Theres a few dead certs I guess - Kid Rock and Hulk Hogan in kids sunglasses clawing at his shirt like it's covered in imaginary spiders. But who else?
As an aid memoir heres the running order from last time round

Incase anyone’s in any doubt which direction Trump is going to head in regard to Israel and Gaza
An alternative point of view:
I suspect that the only significant difference between Biden and Trump is that Biden projects the image that he cares about the Palestinians (whilst supplying Israel with the weapons and hardware to slaughter them) whilst Trump frankly couldn't give a shit about such pretences.
I love how the first move to trim government is to with zero irony set up another government department, then say that it isn't a government department. How long for the Department of Propaganda and Doublespeak? Although I guess that would require an element of literacy. I was quite depressed last week but I now have a feeling we might get a fair load of unintentional humor among the daily WTF, WTAF, SWTAF?
I am hoping someone is selling Trump is a Cword t-shirts as a mark of respect to Janey Godley.
I love how the first move to trim government is to with zero irony set up another government department
One with two leaders.
then say that it isn’t a government department.
Technically, it isn't. A department can only be established by an act of congress, the President can't just create them as he sees fit. The word "department" doesn't really describe its status.
It is a government entity, it's purpose is to do the work of government. It will need a budget, or will Musk just walk about firing people at random. Actually I shouldn't joke that is probably exactly the plan. Until they get the work camps set up of course.
It will need a budget
Which has to be approved by congress if it's a department. If it's just a few people working out of the Whitehouse as advisors to the President, it's not a department.
Musk, Trump, and many of their advisors are used to operating in the private sector where bosses have a lot of freedom to run things as they want. Working in government is a different game and I don't think Musk will have the temperament to stick at it.
Trump and Musk don't want to "work in" government as it is generally understood.
It's all written down in Project 2025 what they want to achieve. They want teardown current structures and norms, then re-build in their vision, to ensure the Democrats will be basically unelectable. Sounds a bit fascisty to me.
All these people who were saying Trump v2.0 isn't going to be that bad, just look at the team he is assembling.
All these people who were saying Trump v2.0 isn’t going to be that bad, just look at the team he is assembling.
I have no doubt it's going to be bad, but we really don't know what he will manage to do. Trump doesn't really have policies, he has whims, which often contradict each other. For example, he's pretty serious about not liking immigrants and wanting to deport them, but deporting 10 million workers would leave many industries desperately short of workers so that would cause inflation. The lobbyists for those industries would lobby the White House for relief so it's possible it would end up as a proposal for a guest worker visa program, which is exactly what the MAGA crew do not want so you'd end up with a battle within the administration between the business lobby and the MAGA hardliners. Same with tariffs. Trump doesn't seem to understand how they really work and campaigned strongly on them, saying they could replace income tax. Problem is, if he imposed the sanctions that he promised, they would cause massive inflation and business leaders would lobby for relief from them. So he's going to end up with his advisors all fighting about what to do and having to choose between economic chaos or backing down on his campaign promises. Nobody knows what he will end up doing, just that it's unlikely that he will find things as easy as he imagined and that it will probably get very messy very fast.
I honestly think Trump will just talk nonsense, soil himself and play golf.
However, the people around him are truly dangerous.
He will allow them to run rampage.
Expect to see Vance as POTUS within 3 years.
Trump and Musk don’t want to “work in” government as it is generally understood.
It’s all written down in Project 2025 what they want to achieve. They want teardown current structures and norms, then re-build in their vision, to ensure the Democrats will be basically unelectable. Sounds a bit fascisty to me.
All these people who were saying Trump v2.0 isn’t going to be that bad, just look at the team he is assembling.
Absolutely this.
I am hopeful that some of the structure will be too strong for them to disassemble. Hopeful that some voices of measure and balance prevail, that they can make good enough arguments as to why things should be done a particular way. I hope that there will be an international effort, that business* and economics* make a case for caution and balance. But maybe not.
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*I see from some pension funds that the US funds have rocketed since the election....
will Musk just walk about firing people at random. Actually I shouldn’t joke that is probably exactly the plan.
I've recommended this book before, but it's essential reading.
Basically "firing people at random" is exactly what happened last time round. Some of it wasn't entirely random.
Anyone who was an Obama hire, or vocal Obama supporter: FIRED
Anyone who believed in climate change: FIRED
Then there were lots of others just randomly fired despite being SMEs or having decades of vital experience
It will be even worse this time round
Has anyone got a link to Project 2025? I can't find one, but from what I remember reading it some month ago, is it's somewhere between every conspiracy theory and Mein Kampf, and the general destruction of the American state structure. I'm surprised how few people seem aware of this and its contents.
Nobody knows what he will end up doing, just that it’s unlikely that he will find things as easy as he imagined and that it will probably get very messy very fast.
I think within months things might start going dramatically wrong. Deporting millions of immigrants is going to be a logistical nightmare and ruinously expensive. Aside from all the legal battles that will ensue I can see large scale civil unrest over it. Millions of people ripped out of their homes, away from their families and work places... It sounds and will look absolutely dystopian.
If his other actions also drive inflation up, after it being such a huge factor in his campaign, it could become an absolute Gordian knot of unintended consequences and very public arguments.


