That's easy for you to say!
Bit of a long read but some interesting background on the election disinformation campaign and the link back to an IT guy in the UK.
And a good listen where each of the regular contributors gets a view point to present from nothing happened through to full pee tape
Each argument had some merit, from. What is presented a bit of too dumb/arrogant to spot it and then caught in it does seem most plausible until more is released (or you hear Ruddy defending him)
So AIUI under the US system the Democrats don't have an single person as leader until 2020 when their next presidential candidate takes over?
Feels a bit weird to me, you'd think a leader would be pretty much essential.
@outofbreath - the US system is, deliberately, different to ours. The president isn't "leader" of his party in the way that Theresa May is leader of the Conservatives.
The closest would be the "Floor leaders" in Congress and the Senate.
Different system
https://www.democrats.org/about/our-leaders
Chuck Schumer leads them in the Senate
Nacy Pelosi Leads them in the house
They are the key voices in government for them at the moment but won't get much coverage in the UK media.
In the cycle of things, this November is the mid term elections, once that is done and dusted the process for getting a candidate for president will probably begin but they are being lead at this time by those 2 (simplistically)
Manafort potentially spilling the beans has Trump very worried
The minute the recording of his conversation about paying off his affair was leaked Trump started worrying what else was recorded
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1024646945640525826
Ironically given how he has pretended he has recorded so many conversations, I guess a few were laughing about that one for a while!
Cohens gotta have the dirt, but Manafort is the warning
he took a ton of cash from ukranians & is being labeled an enemy actor/agent/dupe for it
Property mogul trump will have definitely taken cash from some dodgy russian oligarchs at some point & as every oligarch knows that they have to report back to Putin or its polonium/novichok time thats going to compromise trump
Totally in control there, totally.... He could try one about setting up tubeless too
Why is he going to all these lengths in both defending and attacking collusion?
its not a crime, remember...
Liking the whataboutery there.
he's been reading ninfans book "The art of the Troll how to win on the internet"
I do like his driving of narrative the “discredited dossier” ,Not sure that’s quite true and er manafort sorta mentioned in it something unplausible of him taking money from some Ukrainians.
Is he getting worried or is it the usual gibberish?
Is he getting worried or is it the usual gibberish?
Well his former campaign chairman is facing the rest of his life in prison, Muller has a deal ready for him and a second crack with another set of charges coming up. I'd say he is worried as he knows what he knows. Muller won't be looking for new info just confirmation that Trump was involved or knew about something.
As unreliable as Cohen is there are tapes and he knows where the bodies are buried and again in a lot of trouble.
Id say worried and preparing to fight this in the networks and on the talk shows not the courts.
I love the way he is demanding that this investigation be stopped, like that will happen...
So if I get done for littering or some other offence, can I start a twitter campaign to get the charges dropped? Or does it only apply to election rigging?
"before it continues to stain our country any further".
Er... stain what (or who)?
I read an article yesterday that suggested a reason for all the noise he's making about the Mueller investigation just now. It is apparently unlikely that the Mueller investigation will indict the president, as Robert Mueller does not believe that's something that can be done. Instead some minions will be indicted (Manafort already being on trial) but otherwise eventually a report will come out that may list what bad stuff Trump's been up to.
At that point, no matter what Trump's done, it becomes a matter of politics as much as everything else. Trump and Giuliani will have been banging on for months about how the investigation is biased and how Trump's supposed crimes aren't actually crimes. If the Republican party reckon enough of their voters are on Trump's side on this then they'll not impeach him to avoid losing those votes.
Unfortunately while Trump's been playing this defensive game for several months, Mueller has had no real ability to reply, as he has to concentrate on performing his investigation and producing his report.
It was always a matter of politics. Mueller will report on what a bad boy Donald has been, and then it is up to Congress/Senate to get on with it or not, or the electorate to deliver their verdict - which is why most of Trump's efforts are to convince republican voters that it is a witch hunt/deep state plot etc.
Could still see some indictments for Don Jr and little Jared, though, at which point we can expect him to utterly lose his shit.
IMHO They will probably have issues as he’s a standing president but once he’s out of his presidency he’s fair game for money laundering if they can prove it.
If he starts dishing out pardons to friends and family it’s going to awfully start looking like the USA is a bit of a banana republic and his own(ish) party may have enough .
They’re are also certain things he can’t pardon so it’s a bit of a chess game and public opinion.
its the OJ Simpson type thang.
its the OJ Simpson type thang.
He'll be asked to try on a tiny pair of gloves? Hmmm - I can see why he might be worried.
IMHO They will probably have issues as he’s a standing president but once he’s out of his presidency he’s fair game for money laundering if they can prove it.
The issues will depend on what has been found really and who he takes down with him. The republicans will have the option to surgically remove him if they are too scared of what a full melt down will bring
This was quite an interesting read
We all know he's a bit 'alternative' with his facts but its fascinating to see the volumes when you take to the time to add up all the lies. And the strain it puts journalists under to try and sift through the volume of crap.
We all knew that as a political outsider Trump would be crap when he started as he would be learning on the job - I think even if you were sympathetic to him (as opposed to his cap-wearing, hoo-har shouting core) you'd imagine there'd be gaffs, and embarrassments and failures to follow particular protocols. But what he's actually getting better at is being bad.
The Al Capone reference is very telling. Capone - one of America's biggest gangsters was convicted of tax evasion and sent to Alcatraz after a very creative FBI investigation. The lesson is to go for the fine detail and convict on 'minor' charges. Trump sees this tactic in the current investigation and is clearly worried.
I see the D is in full ‘I know you are but what am I?’ mode now, claiming that in fact, Queen Lizzy kept him waiting (despite TV evidence to the contrary).
Situations like this are why we keep the nukes, right?
As an aside, chatting to my dad while he visited yesterday, I’d managed to tune out though all his gammonesque ‘project fear’ rant, but then came the ‘I know Trump is a horrible man, but at least he is getting things done’. My response was swift and robust...
Presumably, this is fake news..
North Korea continuing nuclear programme - UN report - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-45067681
No,no,evil Hilary told them to continue the nuclear programme.
All part of the deal. They can’t work on nuclear weapons, on days ending with an x.
On the other hand, they may not survive long enough to use them...
The rise of Fascism in the US was written about 70 years ago...
https://boingboing.net/2018/07/30/this-70-year-old-book-about-ra.html
I do wonder if anyone has actually asked any of these Trump supporters if any of their family fought in WW2, and whether they were fighting on the side of Hitler and the Nazis...
Holy crap Batman... has Cadet Bone Spur just admitted collusion with the Russians?
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1026084333315153924
Numbskull
i totally didn’t know about the thing I’m telling you about, that is perfectly legal and anyone who says otherwise is a silly head.
fancy that, throwing your son under the bus 🙂
I for one, certainly have the integrity to not drag the person that did the throwing down with me. I’m sure jr will too
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
sorry, guess my poker face isn’t what it was...
But, but, the meeting he didn't know about was about adoptions, not getting dirt on Hilary!
The trouble for Trumpy is trying to remember whether he's currently on lie 1.0, 2.0 or perhaps even 3.0 (final revision) if he ever sits down with Mueller.
Still, it's all a nothingburger. NO COLLUSION!
I do wonder how long he has to hold his breath for before the lawyers/WH staff/grown ups relent and give him his phone/internet privileges back after these kinds of outbursts
Must be nearing world record levels now, that or he’s actually passing out.
Well allegedly Manafort is looking at hundreds of years in prison for avoiding a bit of tax so Trump must be looking at that an thinking F*****.
No Collusion !!!
So there seems to be discussions around whether Donny is actually going to agree to be interviewed, or whether Mueller is going to have the balls to subpoena a sitting president.
Interesting times.
He undoubtedly has some level of protection from criminal proceedings as President (although from memory I don't think he is completely protected), but I wonder how much info the FBI now has on his previous shady activities - of which they MUST BE A BOATLOAD. Cohen has been with him since 2011 - so I would imagine that he has enough dirt you negotiate himself out from under any heavy jailtime.
If he thinks THIS is uncomfortable, I bet he's going to find his life after the presidency very challenging indeed.
All I have in my head now is an adapted scene from ‘A Few Good Men’
’Mr President, did your collude with the Russians?’
’Crooked Hillary, with her emails, she was leaking, from her private serv...’
’Answer the question sir’
’We werent gonna get the electoral college vote, we had to get that for the white hou...’
’DONALD! DID YOU COLLUDE WITH THE RUSSIANS OVER THE ELECTION?!’
’YOU’RE GOD DAMN RIGHT I DID!’
etc arrest the president etc etc
If he thinks THIS is uncomfortable, I bet he’s going to find his life after the presidency very challenging indeed.
if he gets caught the whole Trump empire is likely to come crumbling down, don’t think his missus is happy with him either and his sons are in the crossfire.
