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So are you on the side of the witches or against? Are they the Witches of the East or the Witches of the West?
I am not on the side of "world policeman" put it this way.
So are the witches on the policemen's side or are they defund the police witches?
So are the witches on the policemen’s side or are they defund the police witches?
If they are the world policeman then, yes, the witches are their side. It's all about Power.
Regardless of who they are east, west, north or south, if they want to be world policeman (or use power to dominate others) then they are the witches. No exception.
(log off now back in few hours LOL)
Ok, so if I run into one of these bad witches down at the shop or the library or somewhere, how do I recognize them?. How do they recognize each other? Do they wear costumes or something? Secret handshakes?
I am not on the side of “world policeman” put it this way.
The US are the least worse... until Trump gets elected.
Do they wear costumes or something?
Pointy black hats and generally have a cat or two.
Trump had the largest number of voters ever for a losing candidate.
He also had the lowest share of the vote of any winning candidate ever when he won. He won with a 46% share of the vote vs Clinton's 48%. 2.8m fewer votes and still won.
In recent history John MaCain, John Kerry and Al Gore all lost with a bigger vote share than Trump won with.
He won with a 46% share of the vote vs Clinton’s 48%.
Which adds up to 94%. So, who did those other 6% of voters vote for?
Which adds up to 94%. So, who did those other 6% of voters vote for?
Faith Spotted Eagle, John Kaishe, Bernie Sanders, Colin Powell and Ron Paul - by what mechanism they received votes I'm not sure. Perhaps as 'write-in' candidates. Some spoiled votes and hanging chads maybe.
(actually not Faith Spotted Eagle - she didn't receive any votes in the ballot but had a vote cast for her by a 'faithless elector' who should have cast his vote for Clinton.)
Pointy black hats and generally have a cat or two.
Makes witch hunting sound a bit like shooting fish in a barrel. Surely it would be much more sporting to let them ditch the hats and give them a good head start before you unleash the hounds. Leave the cats out of it too, probably just wrong place, wrong time thing. Just curled up on the wrong lap and next thing they know, they're being burned at the stake.
Makes witch hunting sound a bit like shooting fish in a barrel.
Yeah but that if the gun, or the fish, or the barrel are cursed?
dirkpitt74
Full MemberAnd just when you think he can’t get any worse……
Kinda proves the problem perfectly... I post it, but at this point "Trump says he'd encourage Russia to invade NATO allies" barely even gets noticed, so you post it 6 hours later, same again. It ought to be an absolute killer blow to his campaign but we're in a place now where it just doesn't even register even as story of the day, "Where is Nikki Haley's husband" and "He got Gaetz The Sex Trafficker's name wrong" is geting more attention most places.
If this is Biden's last term in office, I think he should shoot Trump in the face.
Ok, so if I run into one of these bad witches down at the shop or the library or somewhere, how do I recognize them?. How do they recognize each other? Do they wear costumes or something? Secret handshakes?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yp_l5ntikaU
I'm interpreting Trump's NATO comment along the lines of treaties mean nothing. If Putin attacks a NATO partner, Trump would not use US forces to respond to someone else's harm.
NATO states need to be ready to operate without the USA if Trump wins. We knew that already, and should have been preparing for it for years. Europe is already supporting Ukraine without the USA (well, almost) and Europe standing firm alone against Putin, at least for a while, is a likely reality, not an unthinkable fantasy nightmare scenario.
NATO states need to be ready to operate without the USA if Trump wins.
Completely agree with this. I'm currently reading "the end of the world is only the beginning" by Peter Zeihan. One of the key messages is that the USA really could turn it's back on the world. It is easily self sufficient for food, self sufficient for oil, and doesn't have the demographic problems of Europe. Trump being elected would be a terrible thing for world peace, stability and prosperity, but giving up it's role as leader of the free world would not be all that bad at all for the economic prosperity of the USA, while every other major economy would have a disaster.
It's pretty terrifying here in the UK where we are utterly dependent on the global order being maintained.
If NATO is led by a forgetful old man, a clown (now replaced by a billionaire) and a comedian you are heading for a disaster.
Why do I sense some comedians always harbour the ambition to dominate the world?
If Putin attacks a NATO partner, Trump would not use US forces to respond to someone else’s harm.
Did Putin attack a NATO partner?
Do you think Russia will fall?
Assuming Russia is going to fall, do you think those central Asian Islamic states will let Russia fall? Do you think central Asian Islamic states will let the West dictate their lifestyle?
One of the key messages is that the USA really could turn it’s back on the world.
Haha. And lose the business opportunity that is ~7.7 billion people outside the US versus "only" ~ 340 million people inside the US....?
It's not gonna happen. They'd soon run out of shit to sell to each other.
It’s not gonna happen. They’d soon run out of shit to sell to each other.
You know that. We all know that. Trump and his headbanging supporters....I'm not sure they know a single thing.
Haha. And lose the business opportunity that is ~7.7 billion people outside the US versus “only” ~ 340 million people inside the US….?
It’s not gonna happen. They’d soon run out of shit to sell to each other.
While you were sleeping Brexit happened 🙂
America is hugely reliant on the far eastern economies/ industry just like we are. Silicon valley might well develop lots of tech but it's all made in China, Taiwan etc etc.
America doesn't have bases all around the world for altruistic reasons. It's protecting it's foreign commerce and trading partners just like we did in the Victorian era.
Like it out not, there's no going back on globalism. The most that could/ will happen is a decoupling of the West from China and it's allies which will have both good and bad ramifications for both sides.
Trump says a lot but actually does very little but yes, Europe/NATO can no longer rely on the USA to bail it out militarily. Particularly with a pro Russian President in the US.
Wrapping up responses to a few recent posts...
If US stops funding/supporting Ukraine, Europe (EU plus others) will be unable - and, probably, unwilling to attempt - to fully plug the huge gap; in fact, they couldn't fill 50%.
EU countries, in general, don't have armed forces by any meaningful measure - and that can't be resolved in the short (or even medium) term.
Historically, other NATO members have been very happy to ride on the US coat-tails; not a long-term sustainable behaviour.
The US is miles away from being totally self-sufficient; in reality, they never will be.
Outsourcing and off-shoring can only be partially reversed; in doing so, costs will increase.
The western world has ceded economic power to China - and done so, apparently, with full knowledge of the consequences. Reap what you sow and all that.
Even a cursory glance at US will show that the 'magnificent seven' - go look it up but it's the tech giants - are driving wealth generation; take them out and - what's left?
Not a lot.
As for trump - here's hoping there is a successful assassination attempt.
Cognitive abilities - hmmm; read transcripts of recent speeches by Biden and trump. After that it will be clear that trump has by far the biggest problem but...logic and analysis does not form part of the US political discourse.
Did Vlad remind donny about golden showers kompromat to 'encourage' the odious orange one's latest comments?
Finally, chewkw, can you please translate your latest post into plain English; as it stands, it's gibberish.
The most that could/ will happen is a decoupling of the West from China and it’s allies which will have both good and bad ramifications for both sides.
Definitely inflation coz nobody is going to work for peanuts. Home made in large quantity? It will be expensive and reliability might come into question.
As for trump – here’s hoping there is a successful assassination attempt.
That's not a surprise.
Finally, chewkw, can you please translate your latest post into plain English; as it stands, it’s gibberish.
Russia is not only Ruassia. There are many former USSR states that are in central Asia. They are all Islamic nations with strong link to Russia. Russia do not intervene in their politics and they like that. If Russia falls, they will be next and they will not allow that. They will support Russia to maintain their lifestyle or political stance. Therefore, if the West think they can defeat Russia or Turkey can drive a wedge into the Central Asia nations and Russia, then they have no idea what Islam means. That's even without China or North Korea involvement.
One of the key messages is that the USA really could turn it’s back on the world
They could, safe in the knowledge that they're the only country to have invoked article 5 of the NATO treaty. Ever
Donald Trump gave NATO nations a wake-up call in 2016. The fact that the UK couldn't put either of its aircraft carriers to sea at the weekend for a pre-planned NATO exercise, the largest ever and meant to make Russia think, is beyond a joke
The fact that the UK can’t put either of its aircraft carriers to sea this weekend for a pre-planned NATO exercise, the largest ever and meant to make Russia think, is beyond a joke
Yeah, it's a little embarrassing isn't it! Even Putin's carrier that has sails on standby usually smokes it way around the oceans with the occasional help of a subservient tugboat.
I believe The Mail think it's due to the military being woke. We have snowflake, lefty, Greenpeace loving carriers basically.
As for trump – here’s hoping there is a successful assassination attempt.
I think he's the least likely president in history to be assassinated. The kind of nutters building bombs in the attic for elected officials all have Trump posters on their minivan. They're the sort of people most republican politicians - right up to the former vice president fear being assassinated by though.
PS how are the Type 42s , sorry ferries doing?
it wouldn’t matter if they were delivered tomorrow - there isn’t a port for them to sail from at present - or a time line for having one.
The carriers don't have enough air defence destroyers, which are constantly breaking down as well.
Haha. And lose the business opportunity that is ~7.7 billion people outside the US versus “only” ~ 340 million people inside the US….?
It’s not gonna happen. They’d soon run out of shit to sell to each other.
That's basically describing their protectionist policies of the 1920's. The 30's didn't work out well for them as a result.
Poopscoop
Full MemberI believe The Mail think it’s due to the military being woke. We have snowflake, lefty, Greenpeace loving carriers basically.
Caught some overstuffed armchair retired admiral saying the same thing on the news earlier- the only problem is navy diversity hiring, and Young People. Definitely nothing to do with privatised recruitment, long term personnel retention, or long term naval resource planning, no.
Today is the deadline for trump's legal team to file an appeal against the DC appeals court decision regarding immunity from prosecution
The clock is ticking...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-68277167
We knew it was going to happen and I suspect we all know the outcome, but it really would be good if the adults made a decision and put him in his place.
If trump wins the appeal and is immune, then Biden could litearly, and legally, have trump assasinated.
As funny as it would be to see that, it sets an incredibly dangerous precident for the entire US legal system.
Time to crank up that Dark Brandon meme... 5 minutes after the decision, Mar a Lago burns to the ground
Or Biden could declare the next election a fix, if Trump won, “sorry Donnie, I’m immune remember”
The right to assassinate seems fine in theory but not if Joe stole the election in the first place…not my president!
I'm assuming we have not done this yet:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68255431
Nepotism? Yeah, we've heard of that.
The right to assassinate seems fine in theory but not if Joe stole the election in the first place…not my president!
The thing there is that, as well as immunity, Trump has long argued that presidents can self-pardon. So, even if someone did seize control by stealing an election, they can preemptively pardon themselves and their minions and then put any judges or law-enforcement personnel who try to stop them in front of a firing squad. Presidential immunity would just mean that any president could just declare themselves to be ruler for life and above the law. The Supreme Court judges understand this. Even if Clarence Thomas is crazy enough to go along with it, I can't see any of the others taking it seriously.
This sums up the 'Biden is too old and frail argument'. Which old bloke would you rather have?
https://twitter.com/MPLSKerrBear/status/1757396991762485259
A centrist Democrat just thumped a Republican in George Santos' old seat.
https://twitter.com/billscher/status/1757613280032383308
https://twitter.com/highbrow_nobrow/status/1757607659539239289
Oh, and in a completely different trial, his attempts at delaying got squashed today.
https://twitter.com/CNNPolitics/status/1758141464133955656
Hopefully 300+ million poorer by tomorrow 👍
I really do believe that if Biden stood down for a young centrist democrat they would destroy Trump in November.
I really do believe that if Biden stood down for a young centrist democrat they would destroy Trump in November
Being cynical, a right of centre democrat may be even better
I really do believe that if Biden stood down for a young centrist democrat they would destroy Trump in November.
None of the young 'centrist' alternatives are polling as well as Biden in a hypothetical head to head against Trump. Neither were any of Trump's primary opponents polling as well against Biden.
Changing the candidate now would be more than a risky proposition. The 'Democrats in chaos' narrative would probably send Trump back to the White House.
There's a reason why election campaigns are so long and drawn out over there, it's because the place is massive, and it takes time for brand recognition to coalesce around politicians. Any new presidential candidate needs a 2-3 year run-up, both in terms of raising their profile, but testing the water with donors and getting the necessary fundraising done.
It's too late to swap candidates now.
I really do believe that if Biden stood down for a young centrist democrat they would destroy Trump in November.
Who specifically do you have in mind? Just wishing for someone young and popular isn't helpful if that person doesn't exist.
trump has claimed he has c$400 million in liquid assets which I take to be money or 'near money'.
He's appealing the $83 million defamation but, to so, must put up that sum of money - either directly or through a bond company.
Fraud case disgorgement decision, due today, is likely to be $300+ million; he's already said the decision will be appealed. To do so he - or a bond company - will be required to put up the amount being appealed or something close to it.
If trump puts up the money in both cases, that wipes out his claimed liquid assets; would he offer a possible mix of cash and property assets; if he can persuade a bond company to put up (some of) the money the terms are likely to be usurious; what surety would a bond company insist on - properties, probably.
Lifetime ban on doing business in NY; cancellation if trump org NY business certificates; dismantling his NY controlled property businesses?
When all of this fully plays out - after all appeals - trump will be a shell; stripped of everything he believes defines him - money, success, reputation as mega property developer, the biggest and best at everything he does.
I cannot wait for that.
He’s appealing the $83 million defamation but, to so, must put up that sum of money – either directly or through a bond company.
He's not been using bond companies to date - its not clear whether thats becuase he's tight (they charge a percentage for their service) or because his history of not paying his bills and the probably bancrupcy he'd face if he loses all his cases mean that no bond company will touch him.
IIRC to appeal the defamation case he actually has to put up 110% of the amount that he's been ordered to pay. So for $83m he has to lodge more than $91m with the court for the appeal to go ahead. I don't know if that 110% applied to any appeal or just that case, or kind of case in particlar.
To date, there have been two damages awards, both to E Jean Carroll - $5 million followed by $83.3 million.
Is there any way to confirm whether or not the sums being appealed have been lodged with the court ro allow the appeals to go ahead?
I share your comments about bond companies - surety, interest charges, a client who will likely attempt to default, a potential bad debt are all likely to combine to make them very wary of any dealings with him.
Who specifically do you have in mind? Just wishing for someone young and popular isn’t helpful if that person doesn’t exist.
I keep seeing Michelle Obama being mentioned in this context but Politico sum it up nicely:
"It’d certainly be interesting if Joe Biden were about to be swapped out for Michelle Obama in a premeditated plan to wrongfoot Republicans and coast to victory. In reality, Democrats, figuratively and literally, are stumbling ahead with the guy they’ve got."
surety, interest charges, a client who will likely attempt to default, a potential bad debt are all likely to combine to make them very wary of any dealings
that or Dog the Bounty Hunter has gone woke. 🙂
No chance Michelle Obama comes into it, to have Biden step aside is possible, but you'd need to then have Kamala to do the same, can't see that, the democrats have been horrific in selection of candidates since Obama left!
We all hope it causes a proper meltdown, but i think the reality is that he'll play this for his fans, words like fake news, woke and so on will be used and he'll get his fervent supporters shouting louder.
$355 million & 3 year business ban in NY; independent monitor to continue; independent director of compliance to be appointed to trump org.
Just waiting for the litany of accusations to start - including the usual...we're going to appeal this.
As for appeals - see comments ^^^ about the process and required financial commitment to proceed to appeal.
It will be a long process but...this is the beginning of the end for trump
- Looks like you have to put your hand in your pocket Donnie,no business licence ban though
- 350 million dollars.
An analysis of the judgement by CNN suggests that interest could be charged on individual elements of the disgorgement calculation dependant on when the benefit to trump accrued.
If correct, this could add upto $100 million to the bill.
Go donny!
Looks like he's going to be putting out a "For $10 each, we can beat them, they won't silence us" crowdfunding call.
To quote Anthony Scaramucci...trump is now reduced to making lemonade from lemon peel.
Big money donors are keeping their hands in their pockets.
Nickel'n'dime donors may continue to donate but how, if at all, can their money be used to help cover the disgorgement charge?
He's trucked.
$355 million & 3 year business ban in NY
Btilliant.
Could Putin be doing his (alleged) buddy Trump a favour by diverting a lot of media attention?
With Putin having just endorsed Biden - he could be signalling its time for the President to bump off the troublesome upstart leading the opposition. 🙂
What happens if trump declares himself bankrupt?
What happens if trump declares himself bankrupt?
Trump and his sons have been barred from running the business for three years and they are required to allow a court appointed auditor to oversee the running of the business. If they try to reorganize the company under bankruptcy regulations, they would be watched very carefully to make sure that it wasn't just a ploy to avoid paying creditors.
How's our MAGA-totaliser of ruined lives looking then
Trumps total is now up to $442m
Murdoch / Fox $1600m
Alex Jones $1500m
Mike Lindell $5m so far- also hasn't paid his lawyers for 3 years so is facing a claim from them for $millions whilst facing a claims, presumably without representation now, for defamation that run to more than $1000m
Rudy Giuliani $148m so far
Steve Bannon has already had jail time and has got the 'We Build the Wall' fraud case coming up in a few months for Money Laundering and Conspiracy. But his co-accused have already netted:
Brian Kolfage: $20m and 4 years in prison
Andrew Badolato: $3m and 3 years in prison
and unlike Bannon they both pled guilty so the judges went easy on them. I wonder if they'll let him where 3 orange jumpsuits in jail.
There are 18 co-accuesd in the Georgia Case including Giuliani so he'll have more to add to the misfortune index there - so far
Sydney Powell - 6 years probation
Gonna Ellis - 5 years probation
Then theres all the old school ruined lives that we've sort of forgotten about
Micheal Cohen - $2m and 3 years in Prison
Roger Stone - 2 years (altough commuted by Trump)
Micheal Flynn - plead guilty but Trump / Bill Barr got a pardon in before he could be sentenced
How many more or there? And the above is just the fines - who knows what the combined legal bill is. Trump has also settled numerous cases out of court so they won't be without cost. Everything Trump touches just tuns to shit doesn't it?
Trumps total is now up to $442m
I think there's some backdated interest on the latest fine as well. Something in the region of 90 million on top.
I really don't think he has liquid funds to cover all of that, whatever Forbes thinks. He hasn't even stumped up the 80 to 90 million he'd need to appeal the E Jean Carroll verdict.
On top of that, he can't borrow from NY banks (don't know if that is just banks based in the state, or those with an address there (ie, pretty much all the major ones).) He is already borrowing from non-mainstream lenders because many banks don't want to touch him.
Luckily he's currently staging a takeover of the Republican National Committee, so no doubt will be trying to dip into their fundraising pot to cover his debts.
Bigly $$$$$$$$
Chickens roosting you weapons grade ****er!