Donald! Trump!

Trump is the best ever at making use of a limited [s]voc[/s] [s]vocab[/s] number of words. The best.

Trump is the best ever at making use of a limited voc vocab number of words. The best.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-09-22/facebook-to-release-russia-ads-to-congress-amid-pressure/8973718
Looks like more pressure to add to the pile of crap around Russian involvement, the cloud is hanging lower and lower around the Trump Swamp these days. N Korea should be worried.

binners - Member
For ages, I've been trying to think who he sounds like, but whenever he's on telly I'm mesmerised by his hair, and umpa-lumpa-like appearance so much I can't quite put my finger on it

But I've just listened to his totally unhinged UN speech on the radio and it just clicked....

He's

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Kim jong speaks sense for once:

[i]He added: "After taking office, Trump has rendered the world restless through threats and blackmail against all countries in the world.

"He is unfit to hold the prerogative of supreme command of a country, and he is surely a rogue and a gangster fond of playing with fire, rather than a politician."[/i]

Hes not entirely wrong.

More from the same statement;

But, far from making any remarks of any persuasive power that can be viewed to be helpful in diffusion tension, he made unprecedented rude nonsense no one has ever heard from any of his predecessors.

A frightened dog barks louder.

I’d like to advise Trump to exercise prudence in selecting words and be considerate of whom he speaks to when making a speech in front of the world.

The mentally deranged behaviour of the US president openly expressing on the UN arena the unethical will to “totally destroy” a sovereign state, beyond the boundary of threats and regime change or overturn of social system, makes even those with normal thinking faculty think about discretion and composure.

All here : [url= https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/sep/22/a-rogue-and-a-gangster-kim-jong-uns-statement-on-trump-in-full ]full text on Trump (via the Guardian)[/url]

..though it'd be interesting to know whether this was an un-official translation or it was released in English

"Mentally deranged dotard".

Almost funny.

Dotard is my new favourite word. It really has come to something when a creature like Kim Jong-Un is providing accurate commentary.

unethical will to “totally destroy” a sovereign state, beyond the boundary of threats and regime change or overturn of social system, makes even those with normal thinking faculty think about discretion and composure.

However, didn't Kim Yong-un make a very similar threat about Japan recently?

Well indeed, Pot and Kettle. But it really should be easier to spot the difference between the behaviour of the leaders of supposedly the world's most powerful democratic nation and a tyrannical, murderous cesspit.

BBCs version

Mr Kim said in an English statement carried by state news agency KCNA that Mr Trump's remarks "have convinced me, rather than frightening or stopping me, that the path I chose is correct and that it is the one I have to follow to the last".

He said "now that Trump has denied the existence of and insulted me and my country in front of the eyes of the world and made the most ferocious declaration of a war in history", North Korea would consider the "highest level of hard-line countermeasure" to make Mr Trump "pay dearly for his speech".

He ended by saying he would "surely and definitely tame the mentally deranged US dotard with fire".

Well the mentally deranged dotard has certainly calmed the situation down!

johndoh - Member

However, didn't Kim Jong-un make a very similar threat about Japan recently?

Yes he did. Is that the yardstick for good leadership now?

Yes he did. Is that the yardstick for good leadership now?

Repitition :

http://www.spring.org.uk/2010/12/the-illusion-of-truth.php

I'm simple. Here's my simple question.
So, there's these 2 ****ing idiots trying to start a war. A war in which they won't be harmed in the slightest, a war that they'll get normal people to fight for them, people who may die, lose limbs... Will the world intervene?
I know Kim Jong's lot have to do what they're told but jeez, the USA, the rest of the World, surely..??

A war in which they won't be harmed in the slightest

These two thought the same

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I like your thinking, Bob.

"Trump and Kim call each other mad"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-41356836

Well to be fair it may be the most accurate statement either of them have ever made.

You know the worlds on its Arse when tinpot dictators seem more rational and have better hair cuts than the leader of the free. How on earth is trump still being allowed to have keys to the cleaning cupboard never mind the Oval Office

New world order
China
Russia
North Korea

Trump now directs his ire at NFL players who refuse to acknowledge the National Anthem [url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/american-football/41371179 ]here[/url]

[i]"Wouldn't you love to see one of these NFL owners, when somebody disrespects our flag, to say, 'Get that son of a bitch off the field right now, out, he's fired. He's fired,'" Trump said.[/i]

Needless to say his outburst was during a Republican rally in Alabama, playing to the crowd eh? 🙄

See also:

[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/basketball/41373916 ]LeBron James calls president a 'bum' after Steph Curry comments[/url]

On and I see his UN speech has his opponents quaking in their boots:

[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-41371309 ]Iran tests missile despite Trump pressure[/url]

Has he got worse in the last week? The statement about sports players is beyond belief.

Looks like he has sent the bombers over to kims for reccy. Sadly I can see this ending in a lot of human misery

Am I right in thinking a Russian official described Trump and Kim Il Jong, or whatever his name is, as being like two children fighting in a schoolyard? Never a truer word, etc.

Kelly has been keeping things in check, to an extent,trumps enjoying appealing to his base with the national anthem Vs black lives stuff.
Likewise regards Korea- tough guy wars are good for popularity ratings, initially,

it's the fallout that does the damage, sadly the fallout from this war has a long half life

He is such a child.

Curry: I ain't going to Whitehouse
Trump: Well, you can't not come cause you're not invited!
The World *sigh*

Nazi or member of the KKK wants to march through a town, maybe murder someone? Simply displaying their freedom of speech. Sports player won't stand for the national anthem? FIRE THEM!1!! And everyone else, make sure they suffer brain damage

Fud. The president of the NFL is more presidential than the president of the USA.

How does this thread survive after the recent purge?

Must be very dull now...

The purge didn't go high enough.

Fud. The president of the NFL is more presidential than the president of the USA.

The worry is it could take a major constitutional crisis to avoid the petulant child doing something the world regrets.

I can't begin to think of any similar scenario in American history?

The Cuban Missile Crisis was possibly more potentially dangerous but there were mainly sane personalities in control. MAD worked on that occasion.

Now we have 2 men playing the biggest poker bluff in history.

I'm guessing the only way to rid America of him in the event of him ordering a first strike is effectively a military coup. That itself is the stuff of nightmares.

He's been president for what, 6 months? The world was having a petty tough time before he came along now it seems a relative golden age.

Even if this crisis is resolved (how I have no idea with the current leaders involved) Trump seems intent on bringing America/ the world to perpetual crisis.

I honestly think he would willingly consign thousands, potentially massively more, to death.

To save face.

Meanwhile his time is spent ranting at sports stars making a perfectly valid and peaceful protest.

How did we get here??

I'm guessing the only way to rid America of him in the event of him ordering a first strike is effectively a military coup. That itself is the stuff of nightmares.

He's been president for what, 6 months? The world was having a petty tough time before he came along now it seems a relative golden age.

We now have a situation where N Korea and Iran are feeling like they can test the US resolve - or poke the angry idiot as it's becoming known. I can imagine the scene mirroring that of the 2am outside the Kebab shop with Melania yelling "Leave him Donny, e's not wurf it" as Kim Jong Un throws another chip at him (holding on the the chilli sauce laden main weapon)

A victory for democracy,just like Brexit.Hope it collapses as quickly as Brexit,unintended consequences are a bugger,aren't they?

People voted for it. They have spoken. We should just get on with it now, even if the outcome does look like being an absolute cluster****. Because the people, and democracy, and stuff.

I feel like we're in a car being driven off a cliff. We took a wrong turn a few miles back at a T-junction, but in fairness we did have a show of hands to choose the direction then and this was the choice. Now of the people in the car, most can see there's a cliff ahead and want to turn around, but a few pig headed idiots are refusing because we had our chance at the T-junction, and if we turn around now what was the point of that vote. So instead, let's just speed up, find out how bad it is once we do fall off as soon as we can now.

I'm guessing the only way to rid America of him... is effectively a military coup.

I think you'll find this has already, in effect, happened...

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41376317
Back on the National Anthem stuff, a lot of the previous stuff about Trump tells you just how much this hurts him, like the Oscars etc. he wants to be part of the cool kids party, wants to be hanging out with them same with the sports stars. He wants the love from that and he ain't gettin it. That is why this is getting blown up so much bu him.

Looks like the footballers are giving trump the proverbial finger
[url= https://twitter.com/hashtag/TakeAKnee?src=hash ]#TakeAKnee[/url]

So... actual flag-waving heiling nazis... don't want to rush to condemn them... some of them are fine people... oh and First Amendment, Free Speech and all that...

...but football players not standing during the anthem are "sons of bitches" that should be fired immediately.

Good to know where his priorities are. 😯

Of course he is playing to his supporters who lap this stuff up.

[quote=GrahamS ]Of course he is playing to his supporters who [s]lap this stuff up.[/s] are flag-waving heiling nazis

Tpical rightie bedwetting snowflakes eh? Can't handle a bit of criticism without losing the plot.

How did we come to this? Brexit, Trump. Democracy has a lot to answer for.

I can't help feeling there is a weird looking fella in the frozen north who's controlling all of this, and I'm not talking about Santa.

I know- ****ing Odin, he should stick to fighting the ice giants

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.ft.com/content/de59ab54-9f03-11e7-8cd4-932067fbf946

er that's ^ behind a paywall.

[url= http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41382495 ]Lock Him UP!!![/url]

Donald Trump's son-in-law Jared Kushner used a private email account to carry out official White House business, his lawyer told US media.
Mr Kushner is a senior adviser to the president, and married to Ivanka Trump.
His lawyer confirmed the existence of the personal email account to Politico and the Washington Post.
During his campaign, Mr Trump repeatedly criticised rival Hillary Clinton for using a personal email account while Secretary of State.

You can view a number of FT articles per month if you log in, it's the story from last week about Facebook releasing the details of the Ad's paid for by Russion sources for examination.

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https://www.ft.com/content/de59ab54-9f03-11e7-8cd4-932067fbf946

Facebook will release to Congress the content of several thousand ads purchased by Russian operatives during the US election campaign after coming under criticism from lawmakers for holding back facts about Moscow’s use of social media.

The news was greeted by US president Donald Trump with a dismissive tweet Friday morning: “The Russia hoax continues, now it’s ads on Facebook. What about the totally biased and dishonest Media coverage in favor of Crooked Hillary?

Mark Zuckerberg, Facebook’s chief executive, said on Thursday the company would share with congressional investigators “the content and related information of the more than 3,000 ads that appear to be linked with a Russian entity” promoting political messages.

Even if they can't prove collusion with Trump or his team fully it's very apparent that he was first choice of the Kremlin for the job and they chipped in with whatever they could.

President Trump on Puerto Rico relief efforts: "This is an island. Surrounded by water. Big water. Ocean water."

That's bad enough, in fact I'm cringing watching that video ^^ but the other thing that stands out is his constant use of the phrase "never seen before"

health secretary has quit over private plane usage racking $400,000 since May ! draining the Fed not the swamp! 😀

Wonder what consoling words Trump has up his sleeve for Vegas? It's going to be hard to top this...

"Every death is a horror, but if you look at a real catastrophe like Katrina, and you look at the tremendous — hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people that died, and you look at what happened here, with really a storm that was just totally overpowering, nobody's ever seen anything like this. What is your death count as of this moment? 17? 16 people certified, 16 people versus in the thousands. You can be very proud of all of your people and all of our people working together. Sixteen versus literally thousands of people. You can be very proud. Everybody around this table and everybody watching can really be very proud of what's taken place in Puerto Rico."

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The s***gibbon also told someone to “have a nice time” whilst he was walking around meeting people affected

[quote=torsoinalake ]Wonder what consoling words Trump has up his sleeve for Vegas?

Can I have him suggesting they've done really well by comparing with a real catastrophe like 9/11 in the sweepstake please?

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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-10-05/who-actually-writes-donald-trumps-tweets/9017970
So which is worse?
Writing badly spelt tweets to cause outrage and division or paying somebody to do it?
#Fail #SadFace #It'snotfair

I'm beginning to think the civil war predictions aren't so crazy after all. The US is vast and it's population varies wildly (economically, religiously, politically etc.). The President needs to be a uniting force to help keep it all together, at least the majority of it, but Trump is the opposite and is just opening up the existing divisions in the populace.

I don't think in 4 years he'll do enough damage to cause the critical mass of hatred a civil war would need but he's giving it a good try.

The Tory party copying Trump's tactics of rapid fire self-pwns has blinded us lefties to his recent gaffes.

I quite liked him heroically lobbing kitchen towels at Puerto Ricans worried about no power & cholera.

And Rex Tillerson refusing to deny he thinks Trump is a moron 😀

[quote=kimbers ]The Tory party copying Trump's tactics of rapid fire self-pwns has blinded us lefties to his recent gaffes.

I was thinking this thread has gone a bit quiet, but then I suspect we've all just got Trump fatigue - nothing he says or does surprises us any more so it's no longer newsworthy.

tbf I think Kelly firing a lot of Trumps more idiotic staff picks has helped Trump put up a facade of competency, for now....

Long detailed and interesting article covering the rise of Milo Yiannopoulos and the links to white nationalism, Baked Alaska, Breitbart, Bannon, Trump, and the Mercers.

And the efforts they go to obscure or launder those links and publicly distance themselves from nazis & white nationalists while courting them as an audience.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/josephbernstein/heres-how-breitbart-and-milo-smuggled-white-nationalism

Some snippets:

The two planned a press conference outside a mosque attended by the shooter, Omar Mateen. (“Brilliant,” Bannon emailed. “Btw they are ALL ‘factories of hate.’”)
...
He needs to understand that ‘Baked Alaska’ is over,” Yiannopoulos wrote in one email to Fleuette. “He is not a friend he is an employee. … He is becoming a laughing stock and that reflects badly on me.” In another, “I think we need to replace Tim. … [He] has no news judgment or understanding of what’s dangerous (thinks tweets about Jews are just fine). … He seems more interested in his career as an obscure Twitter personality than my tour manager.”
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The newcomers brought in by Gionet weren’t much better behaved. Yiannopoulos had to boot one prospective member of his “tour squad” for posting cocaine use on Snapchat. Mike Mahoney, a then–20-year-old from North Carolina, had to be monitored because of his propensity for racism and anti-Semitism on social media. (Mahoney was later banned from Twitter, but he’s relocated to Gab, a free speech uber alles social network where he is free to post messages such as “reminder: muslims are fags.”)

“Let me know if there’s anything specific that’s really bad eg any Jew stuff,” Yiannopoulos wrote of Mahoney in an email to another member of his staff. “His entire Twitter persona will have to change dramatically once he gets the job.” On September 11, 2016, Mahoney signed a $2,500-a-month contract with Glittering Steel.
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In addition to tech and entertainment, Yiannopoulos had hidden helpers in the liberal media against which he and Bannon fought so uncompromisingly. A long-running email group devoted to mocking stories about the social justice internet included, predictably, Yiannopoulos’s friend Ann Coulter, but also Mitchell Sunderland, a senior staff writer at Broadly, Vice’s women’s channel. According to its “About” page, Broadly “is devoted to representing the multiplicity of women's experiences. … we provide a sustained focus on the issues that matter most to women.”

“Please mock this fat feminist,” Sunderland wrote to Yiannopoulos in May 2016, along with a link to an article by the New York Times columnist Lindy West, who frequently writes about fat acceptance. And while Sunderland was Broadly’s managing editor, he sent a Broadly video about the Satanic Temple and abortion rights to Tim Gionet with instructions to “do whatever with this on Breitbart. It’s insane.” The next day, Breitbart published an article titled “‘Satanic Temple’ Joins Planned Parenthood in Pro-Abortion Crusade.”

Been a while, he's a bawbag.

Loving the Rex Tillerson thing. It was reported he called Trump "a moron" and that he was considering resigning.

Tillerson said the reports were incorrect: he hadn't considered resigning. 😆

Presidents and their administrations have been talking to North Korea for 25 years, agreements made and massive amounts of money paid......

...hasn't worked, agreements violated before the ink was dry, makings fools of U.S. negotiators. Sorry, but only one thing will work!

he's itching for a fight

Yep last week, while Tillerson was saying that direct communication channels with Korea were open and:

[i]"We've made it clear that we hope to resolve this through talks,".. "I think the most immediate action that we need is to calm things down. They're a little overheated right now, and I think we need to calm them down first."[/i]

The Donald tweeted:

[i]"I told Rex Tillerson, our wonderful Secretary of State, that he is wasting his time trying to negotiate with Little Rocket Man..."

"...Save your energy Rex, we'll do what has to be done!"[/i]

😯

Klunk - yes, he's itching for a fight as he knows he'll be unaffected by it.

Tillerson, apparently, called him a f+@king moron and in his press conference did not address this but when asked said that we're not going to discuss petty things.
After Price resigning for his expensive travel habits we now know that Mnuchin's use of military planes for his travel arrangements has been costed at c.$880k without the necessary WH approvals; sources - Politico, Axios, The Hill. Pruitt at Environment agency also under scrutiny for travel arrangements.
Proposed tax reform will benefit high wealth individuals - zero benefit for the much vaunted 'middle class'.

Piece-meal dismantling of ACA rather than repeal/reform or reform/repeal.

What a repulsive set-up.

Even for Donny his latest tweet on Puerto Rico is impressively narcissistic

Nobody could have done what I’ve done for #PuertoRico with so little appreciation. So much work!

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/917172144710103040

I bet he's exhausted after all that hard work, poor lamb.

Shooting 3 pointers with paper towels ain't easy you know.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41419190

Im liking this corker fellow , even if he is a republican!

and while Donald complains people don't appreciate all he is doing
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/10/09/elon-musks-offer-to-rebuild-puerto-ricos-electricity-grid-is-a-game-changer-commentary.html

Im thinking if Musk wants to be president hed have a lot more credibility than Trump ever could

Be interesting to see Musk and Trumps tax returns side by side

So Donald, how many space rockets do you own?

Musk sounds a bit muslim, I bet he wasn't even born in the good ole USofA.

MSP - Member
Musk sounds a bit muslim, I bet he wasn't even born in the good ole USofA.

Obama managed it... 😉

(Not really, just in case the hard-of-thinking racists get the wrong idea)

[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41570266 ]I'm cleverer than you![/url] Needs a sanity test not an iq test.

He needed help on how to spell IQ.

Satire sites don't even need to write new material for Trump. This is from 2016:
http://newsthump.com/2016/05/16/donald-trump-challenged-to-release-his-long-form-iq-test-certificate/

😆

Love the little jibes in Anthony Zurcher's (BBC) analysis:

[i]During the campaign he said he doesn't have to consult generals because he has "a very good brain" and told a rally in South Carolina that he was highly educated and has "the best words".[/i]

😆

Im loving Trumps IQ test throwdown with tillerson

https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/917816860460056576

the man is ****ing bonkers!

It's like listening to Ron Burgundy 😀

Im loving Trumps IQ test throwdown with tillerson

https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/917816860460056576

the man is **** bonkers!

He did the same last year (with Sadiq Khan iirc). I think that he has some iq test score that he bought in the 70's that flatters him immensely, that he thinks if he rolls out everyone will believe.

What they need to do is call his bluff but take control of the game, arrange new tests (by an ivy league university or some respected establishment. Dictate the testing criteria, ie 1/3 of scores problem solving, 1/3 general knowledge etc. Tests to be done publicly and transcripts to be released. Arrange a time and date and then invite him to participate, call him a coward if he backs down.

It's like listening to Ron Burgundy

or Ronni Pickering

Bragging about how humble he is! Hilarious.

What makes me laugh is that an IQ test gives you a score, which isn't open to interpretation or spin or anything like that.

'Hey Donald, what's your IQ?'

'Very high'

'Err, ok, but what's the score, the actual number?'

'It's one of the highest ever'

What's the betting ol' tangerine face either thinks that 58 is a big number, or knows that it's a shit score but won't admit it.

A lot of his influence on people seems to be because he's the president (obvs) and people have faith in whatever [s]dear leader[/s] the president says, not because they have faith in the man himself, but the position he holds.

'Well he's the president, so he can't be a batshit mental, narcissistic, war mongering, barely literate oaf, and I'm going to believe everything he says, because he's the president'

With any luck, people will become more questioning after 4 years of this bollocks