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Tell us what percentage of German energy is supplied by coal nitwit.


 
Posted : 14/07/2018 7:24 pm
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Power production - 14.1% hard coal, 36.6% if you include Lignite.

note the words ‘power production’ rather than ‘energy use’, because of course that excludes other energy consumption such as domestic and industrial gas use and oil products including transport


 
Posted : 14/07/2018 7:28 pm
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Ninnie "Fake News"


 
Posted : 14/07/2018 7:32 pm
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So even if Russia supplied all of Germanys fossil fuel supply at current proportions Trump would STILL be wrong, and that takes no account of rapidly increasing renewable use. Great analysis nitwit.


 
Posted : 14/07/2018 7:38 pm
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Go on then maybe you could tell us when he last visited his failing golf course was it the day before or day after brexit? (where he claims to have predicted the result of the referendum)

Or when he will release the tapes of him saying nice stuff about May that they didn't print?

Or When Regan lost Wisconsin

Any one of these great lies will do....

So after slating all of his allies in NATO how much do you think he will be praising Putin next week?


 
Posted : 14/07/2018 7:43 pm
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So even if Russia supplied all of Germanys fossil fuel supply at current proportions Trump would STILL be wrong, and that takes no account of rapidly increasing renewable use. Great analysis nitwit.

I told you, what’s your timescale? Annually I presume?

Now track it back on a different timescale, say winter months only (higher domestic gas use for heating etc. longer nights reducing impact of renewables) and it’s easily into those figures.


 
Posted : 14/07/2018 7:44 pm
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Nothing to add other than liam fox is a xxxx of a man

Missing an odious but I concur.


 
Posted : 14/07/2018 7:51 pm
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Still making it up Ninny ?


 
Posted : 14/07/2018 7:53 pm
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And the obligatory disgraced former title.


 
Posted : 14/07/2018 7:53 pm
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What you say makes no sense as well you know. Trump was talking about the gas pipeline. If he actually was concerned about oil and coal he wouldn't have made such a big deal about gas. You are desperately using his sloppy and imprecise language to find some bizarre way it could be not a simple lie, but it just doesn't work.


 
Posted : 14/07/2018 7:57 pm
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Lessons in simple logic for a simple person,just because you feel you can prove Trump didn't do something,doesn't mean he didn't do anything,or that he didn't do a specific other thing,or is your understanding of logical thought so different from ours ?


 
Posted : 14/07/2018 7:59 pm
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If he actually was concerned about oil and coal he wouldn’t have made such a big deal about gas.

If he was concerned about gas he wouldn’t have made such a big deal about energy

You are desperately using his sloppy and imprecise language to find...

back at ya!

just because you feel you can prove Trump didn’t do something,doesn’t mean he didn’t do anything,or that he didn’t do a specific other thing,

I agree

Look, here’s Trump predicting Brexit.

http://www.itv.com/goodmorningbritain/news/top-five-headlines-youre-waking-up-to-thursday-24th-march


 
Posted : 14/07/2018 8:02 pm
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You've resorted to throwing dust in your opponents eyes,a logical fail if I ever saw one.If you have clear and logical arguments,why do you need to keep changing your line of attack,or do you feel your arguments are so poor that you must try to mislead us at every turn.I think think you take after your hero,Trump.


 
Posted : 14/07/2018 8:05 pm
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Yep. And unless I'm not mistaken, that is not Turnberry. Thanks for the confirmation.


 
Posted : 14/07/2018 8:07 pm
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Here's a suggestion nitwit - decide what you want to write and then write it. Don't write the first thing that comes into your head and then go back and edit it later. It gives people the idea that you are just a time-wasting troll.


 
Posted : 14/07/2018 8:10 pm
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Go on then maybe you could tell us when he last visited his failing golf course

ninpoop doesn't like dealing with Trump's failures - it ruins his bedroom poster of Flump as the Superhuman Business Genius Of The Universe.


 
Posted : 14/07/2018 8:15 pm
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No I'm not.


 
Posted : 14/07/2018 8:17 pm
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Stand up DrJ,you are accusing him of using sloppy and imprecise language.I also think that he does,but unlike you,I feel it is a deliberate attempt to obfuscate.


 
Posted : 14/07/2018 8:24 pm
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Oh,and just for the record,I feel the Donald has the charisma and sex appeal of a pubic louse,and how much of of his father's money has he lost so far? Not quite the uber-businessman?


 
Posted : 14/07/2018 8:28 pm
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I do think Donald lacks the congenial personality of a pubic louse,whose life is a celebration of the sexual act,and has never had to pay off someone for something that did not happen.


 
Posted : 14/07/2018 8:33 pm
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Clip clop.


 
Posted : 14/07/2018 8:48 pm
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It gives people the idea that you are just a time-wasting troll.

Well he is 100 percent a troll but the time wasting is you lot actually 'debating' with him.  Not sure why you bother.

Anyone that tries to defend Trump is clearly a troll and the only reason you would try to defend such blatant lies is to troll


 
Posted : 14/07/2018 9:08 pm
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I know,but he is so obvious,and so loose with the truth,that sometimes I cannot resist.He also seems to shut up for a while after I post,not sure why.


 
Posted : 14/07/2018 9:12 pm
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https://twitter.com/caitlinmoran/status/1018100945262206976

The one that needs it the most but plenty others could do with the same treatment


 
Posted : 14/07/2018 11:09 pm
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@kerley - normally I wouldn't waste my time but I was waiting for somebody and he directly contradicted something I posted.

Subsequently I see he did one of his stealth edits to make it seem like I said something I didn't

A good lesson for me, I suppose, that however much time you have on your hands it's never worth wasting it on nitwit.


 
Posted : 15/07/2018 12:24 am
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My heads still spinning over the Sun interview and him calling it fake news then trying to squirm out of it.

trade deal like fk....you’ve got to be a certain type of dense to think he’s going to be of any use unless we start making Ivanka goods.

I think if we apply duck typing on him he’s defo Russian stooge.


 
Posted : 15/07/2018 8:35 am
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My heads still spinning over the Sun interview and him calling it fake news then trying to squirm out of it.

When looking at it from the perspective of him being a psychopath it all makes sense.  Whatever he says is true, everyone else must be wrong and must listen to him, he is much smarter than everyone else so can fool everyone and no-one will ever catch him out etc,.


 
Posted : 15/07/2018 8:51 am
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To be fair he has some elements of a sociopath in his behaviour as well. And a bawbag.

I've seen quite a few Trumpers posting pics showing how small the British anti Trump marches were, weirdly though the people I know who were there are saying the opposite. Haven't seen many pro Trump crowds yet, guess the news have somehow missed them. It's almost like he isn't popular over here.


 
Posted : 15/07/2018 9:24 am
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Haven’t seen many pro Trump crowds yet, guess the news have somehow missed them. It’s almost like he isn’t popular over here.

The bbc had some pics, think it was just the one looked very small and very Er white with a lot of Israel flags somebody should have got down there with some Russian flags too just for fun.


 
Posted : 15/07/2018 9:53 am
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Not sure if this has been noted already, but, Agent Orange halted the discussions meeting on Georgia and Ukraine joining NATO. Definite win for Putin.


 
Posted : 15/07/2018 10:47 am
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Missed that snipped, he will be in for a treat when he gets in for his review.


 
Posted : 15/07/2018 10:53 am
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Haven’t seen many pro Trump crowds yet, guess the news have somehow missed them. It’s almost like he isn’t popular over here.

I saw some on the news.  They were holding "Free Tommy Robinson" placards, England flags and looked like they had just come from a white supremacy event.


 
Posted : 15/07/2018 11:08 am
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Who did the banners having a pop at Sadiq Kahn?

At least the lad there was worried about getting a sunburnt neck


 
Posted : 15/07/2018 11:14 am
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Ooooh The Maybot has slid an elegant sliver of steel into the Orange Lump's back as he slithers away to meet his Master.

She revealed that Lump's advice about Brexit was to "sue the EU".

She obviously must have realised this would be examined and, lo and behold, there is no basis legally or in any other sense to 'sue' the EU for anything.

Ninpoop? Care to prevaricate?  Sorry, I mean 'explain'?  😂


 
Posted : 15/07/2018 6:28 pm
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"stable genius" explains everything doesn't it?


 
Posted : 15/07/2018 7:39 pm
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Did Cadet Bone Spur say in which court May should sue the EU?


 
Posted : 15/07/2018 10:14 pm
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Small hands. I mean, small claims.


 
Posted : 15/07/2018 10:40 pm
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Sue the EU? What for?

Anyone else hear Bannon on LBC ? If a Muslim had said what he espoused then there would be calls for them to be locked up.

Hatefull rhetoric designed to cause trouble.


 
Posted : 16/07/2018 9:03 am
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Nothing new from Bannon then (or lbc)


 
Posted : 16/07/2018 9:06 am
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here you ninfan: it works out at 23%

https://www.cleanenergywire.org/factsheets/germanys-dependence-imported-fossil-fuels

You're right that some people are using the wrong figures to show Trump is spouting bullshit about this particular issue - and the fact check box that caitlin moran tweeted above doesn't answer it conclusively either.

However, he is demonstrably wrong, and clearly bullshitting here in his trademark style of picking figures out of the air that seem about right to someone who's done not even a tiny amount of reading.

Germany imports about 65% of its energy needs in the form of Hard coal, nat gas and oil.  Imports from Russia of these are about a third each.


 
Posted : 16/07/2018 9:51 am
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Bit late there, I got done by the old "latest page button not taking you to the latest thread" shenanigan.


 
Posted : 16/07/2018 9:55 am
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Yes nedrapier, but what you are forgetting is that if it was a hard winter and the sun stopped shining and the wind stopped blowing, and if gas imports from the Norway dried up and if the French nuclear power stations all melted down simultaneously, then on some weekend in February, Germany could be getting 65% of its energy from Russia, so Trump was correct.

At least that's nitwit's argument.


 
Posted : 16/07/2018 10:15 am
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Isn't it cheating,using facts to counter poor Ninny's arguments? After all,he has to manage with opinion,obfuscation,and very selective quotes.


 
Posted : 16/07/2018 10:22 am
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Ninfan did his usual truck of saying 'aren't we all jealous of Trump shagging beautiful women' because we all know that he's adored by his ladies 😁

Meanwhile the sueing comment by trump is comedy gold, at least Maybot was able to get a little dig in at Trump after yet another humiliation at his tiny hands!


 
Posted : 16/07/2018 10:31 am
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You’re right that some people are using the wrong figures to show Trump is spouting bullshit about this particular issue – and the fact check box that caitlin moran tweeted above doesn’t answer it conclusively either.

well, thanks at Least for recognising that the ‘rebuttals’ being parrroted by everyone else are bollocks.

<span style="font-size: 0.8rem;">However, he is demonstrably wrong, and clearly bullshitting here</span>

As pointed out before, the reaction is, however, to call anything he says a lie rather than either calling it into question or asking for his working - quality journalists could do that, and make that the story without having to bullshit figures themselves, which leaves them open to the justifiable accusation of being #fakenews

i pointed out above that there were huge numbers of variables, your own link relays the data in hard coal unit equivalence rather than value for example (value of imports per unit of energy will vary massivley between petroleum products versus gas versus coal) and, as pointed out, timescale is another massive variable. All these factors make it impossible to answer conclusively - however up until now we just have people blindly repeating ‘factcheck’ articles that are simply wrong themselves, which gets us nowhere (who factchecks the factcheckers?j


 
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