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TSY - oooh, wanna join us? Probably late morning. Any good?
I might well do. I'm supposed to be tapering down for LEJOG, so no hard out riding please. I'm a fair way through a bottle now though so will have to see what time I wake up 🙂
Hard riding? I'll be on my single speed! If you're coming, send me a text.
Did I read that you had a knee injury? Are you getting treatment or hoping that tapering will help?
Sue, I wonder if a certain amount of discrimination isnt built into people from years of evolution. nature or nurture?
i mean i think im a decent person with a good moral compass but certain things seem instinctive whilst some people would call discrimination.
if you did a fly on the wall of people going to the cinema with a free choice of chairs with a only a few spaces would the majority sit next to good looking couple, a gay or gay couple, a child, a fat man, a single black man, a group white of lads, a disabled person.
clearly their are other factors to consider but does it make us wrong for choosing one over the other?
Wouldnt it be funny if all the single white females sat next to the black man, or the single white men sat next to the gay guy or.. i think you get the idea..
I'm training through it 😯
Some yoga stuff has sorted one of them out, now the other hurts... repeat after me 'Yoga is not a competitive sport'
Cool, I'll text you if I'm up at a reasonable hour 🙂
You sorted out the fettling on the SS then?
I'd probably sit next to the fatman for the popcorn overflow. But, Perhaps the fatman wouldn't overflow popcorn into my seating area at all, that's just my prejudiced idea of a fatty in a cinema. Maybe I'm completely wrong, the fatman would skilfully gobble every single bit of that popcorn, not leaving a morsel. It's a difficult one.
Oh here we go, because a stupid minority of British people cause trouble abroad, our entire culture is at fault... 🙄
I've bin abroad several times, and have never had a fight whilst there. 😀
Put yer Daily Mail away...
Dobo, I'm hoping that you don't mean to be as offensive as you now appear to be to me, but I'm afraid that I am appalled that anyone can consider discrimination against people with disabilities to be acceptable 'instinct' or any other kind of justifiable 'human nature'.
I'm going to leave this thread alone now as it saddens me that my brother can be perceived as justiably repulsive and that such views still exist.
Listen to your body, it's a temple! After all, you put enough effort into it so cosset it. 😀 Don't forget to rest.
ss all fine, have a really cool tensioner on it now and it doubles up as a bottle opener. 😆
Hope to see you tomorrow. 🙂
[i]I've bin abroad several times, and have never had a fight whilst there[/i]
I'm sure you said you've had a scrap south of the river mate?
Don't get annoyed by this lot Sue! 🙁
I'm going to leave this thread alone now
Please don't. I think you've got a lot of really good insight to offer, actually, and your contributions have been really important.
I'm sure you said you've had a scrap south of the river mate?
Ooh, good point actually. More than one, too... 😳
Oh here we go, because a stupid minority of British people cause trouble abroad, our entire culture is at fault...
So how come a stupid minority of Spanish kids don't cause trouble in the UK ?
Your capacity for denial of the problem is breathtaking Elfinman.
Actually Ernie, I have seen young people from those very countries you've mentioned, being rowdy in pubs and clubs in London. Italians in particular, for some reason. As well as people from all sorts of other countries too.
I just put it down to youthful exuberance and the fact they've yet to learn quite a lot.
Granted Brits seem to get a lot of negative press, but what is the actual percentage of Brits who travel abroad, who actually cause any trouble? Hmm? I'd say it's a tiny, tiny amount.
And Britain is far from being the only nation which suffers from alcohol-related problems.
Your capacity for denial of the problem is breathtaking Elfinman.
Where did I deny that there was a problem with Brits and alcohol?
I don't get why Elfin wanting a quiet pint in a kid-free pub is the root cause of British tourists causing trouble abroad..... 😕
I'm off now; tasty tomatoey courgetty bacony cheesy pasta bake. 😀
I agree that we all seem to (mostly) be agreeing (!). Most of us have a choice about which pubs we go to. My closest local allows kids until 5p.m. which is fine. Dogs are allowed all the time - also fine, and those who can't stand kids or dogs can go to the pub over the road.
Life is simple!
Actually Ernie, I have seen young people from those very countries you've mentioned, being rowdy in pubs and clubs in London. Italians in particular, for some reason. As well as people from all sorts of other countries too.
Oh ffs. You can't compare the behaviour of foreign youngsters in the UK with the behaviour of young Brits abroad - however much you try.
As an example, when my parents lived in Spain the only graffiti I ever saw in their town, on the bus shelters, phone boxes, etc, was written in English - when was the last time you saw Spanish graffiti in the UK ? The exploits of young Brits on holiday away from their parents and with access to cheap and large measures of alcohol was legendary. Binge drinking is an integral part of modern British culture, it is not part of Spanish culture.
Go on, now tell me that's all news to you *rolls eyes*
when was the last time you saw Spanish graffiti in the UK ?
Actually I saw some just last week, along the canal. I'll try and get a pic of it (if I can be arsed) if you want.
So, Elfin wanting a quiet drink in a child-free pub causes binge drinking then? 🙄
Binge drinking is an integral part of modern British culture
I know, I really must tell my dad about the dangers...
Go on, now tell me that's all news to you
And with predictable and yet astonishing reliability, he comes out with this one :
[i]"I know, I really must tell my dad about the dangers... "[/i]
All that binge drinking has sozzled your chauvinistic little brain mate.
Probbly. But thanks to you, I can be steered back onto the righteous path. 🙂
It's too late for you I fear, but today's youngsters still have a chance if grumpy intolerant adults change their attitudes. Whilst the article concentrates on drinking with adults at home, the message is that the solution lies in teenagers being introduced to alcohol in a [i]family environment[/i]. Unfortunately because of attitudes in the UK this can only mean at home :
[url= http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1551307/Alcohol-at-home-cuts-teen-binge-drinking.html ]Alcohol at home 'cuts teen binge drinking'[/url]
[i]Children who drink alcohol at home are less likely to become problem drinkers, researchers said yesterday.
A survey of teenagers found that while almost all of them had started drinking, two out of five were regularly binge drinking.
But the 15- and 16-year-olds who were introduced to alcohol at home were less likely to binge drink.
It suggests instead that the Continental custom of sharing wine at home produces more sensible attitudes later in life.[/i]
Furthermore allowing children onto licensed premises well before they are legally entitled to consume alcohol, encourages them to develop an attitude which doesn't automatically associate these environments with having to be drunk out of your skull.