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It's such a shame that the Scots feel that way about the English given we saved them after they screwed themselves with the Darien scheme.
cokkeeking
2 things. 1 you suggest several times that you like a drink etc and were out to drink a lot etc, in a group. This is generally frowned on (despite the reputation) from what I see - in town here you're rarely allowed into places in groups of more than 2 and definitely not if you're already drunk. And that's scots, not even English.
2, your average age means nothing, if you were loud strangers and had beer in you already you were probably being kept at arms length. I can't speak for them, but I've never seen any problems like this except with people who are already drunk or being loud and coming across as agressive whether they think they are or not.
Yes we like a drink, but were not roudy with it (average age of 47 may not mean a whole lot but it does mean we are not a bunch of young kids out to cause mayhem) & can handle a drink or 5, I was under the impression the Scottish enjoy a drink too?
When I say we were out for a drink, we asked for a drink @ 10.30 in a hotel we were staying in on the first night [a saturday night], and were given one grudgingly and then they shut the bar.. WTF? We'd arrived later PM, had a meal gone next door to the pub had a couple more and were looking for a couple more to finish the night before bed - we were not a rolling drunk or even drunk to any extent, and had yet to start a proper drinking session (which is what was intended later in the week, we didn't get chance to do one in either the hotel or pub)
It is possible to go out have a good drinking session without the need to shout and beatup anyone. Don't read that as "like drink" as were what you see on TV rolling down the streets on a fri/sat night in brum/newcastle/swansea city centre
[i]loud and coming across as agressive[/i] is so far from the truth you wouldn't believe it, Tony is 68 and so polite he wouldn't say boo to a mouse - I can't stress how nice a group of lads these guys are.
It's such a shame that the Scots feel that way about the English given we saved them after they screwed themselves with the Darien scheme.
Well you did get peace with France out of the deal so it's not as if it was a totally one sided deal.
"North of the Border: Its a big issue possibly exacerbated by the fact that the English just don't get it."
BINGO!
The more we English like them, the more annoyed they get that we don't live up to [b]the historical stereotypes they were told about in Scottish history lessons[/b].
don't suppose you want cornwall too, do you?
*s****s*
I'm not happy with Grumm's map. Looks like I'm on the border there, make sure it includes greater Manchester and then I think it's a great idea.
Lets call it 'Aceland'
Buzzlightyear - MemberThe more we English like them, the more annoyed they get that we don't live up to the historical stereotypes they were told about in Scottish history lessons.
When I was at school in Edinburgh, we didn't get Scottish history lessons. I remember we had a great big wall frieze with "all the kings and queens on it", right back to 1066 - a date which has almost no relevance north of the border. I could even quote you the dates the romans landed in England.
Scottish myself but have lived in England for 25 years. I've never met an English person that hated the Scots- yes they may have hated Gordon Brown in particular but not the Scots in general.
However I've yet to meet an Englander who gives a sh!t whether Scotland is part of the union or not.
Bit late coming to this post, but I always thought it was the other way around?
I work with a fair few scottish guys and it's just not an issue ever.
Two things get stirred up, mainly in the media. Firstly you it seems get everything free at the expense of English taxpayers, which is how I guess you all live in castles 😉 And the sport thing.
I was going to move to Gardenstown but it was a bit 'wickerman'ish' there 😕
>When I was at school in Edinburgh, we didn't get Scottish history lessons. I remember we had a great big wall frieze with "all the kings and queens on it", right back to 1066 - a date which has almost no relevance north of the border. I could even quote you the dates the romans landed in England.<
Ditto - and thankfully changed for the better now.
I've always considered the Southern English to have a far bigger target in their scopes (the French)
Not even the French, even the Polish aren't an issue any more.
Currently targets are Romanians, Somalis and (Brummies :wink:) if you go by what you overhear.
With regards to the map can we Southerners swap the Isle of Skye for Wolverhampton?
And will we need to show our passports to get in?
Just your P45 😉
With regards to the map can we Southerners swap the Isle of Skye for Wolverhampton?
Make sure they take Tipton as well!
I was going to move to Gardenstown but it was a bit 'wickerman'ish' there
LOL - very astute on your part. My cousin did a stint as the village bobby up there when he was younger, and two parts Summerisle to one part Royston Vasey sums it up pretty well.
My experience is that some Scots hate the English, simply for being English, though they will invent elaborate justifications for their blind prejudices.
Also, some English hate the Scots, simply for being Scottish, though they will invent elaborate justifications for their blind prejudices.
These people are ignorant ****wits and it's best to try and go about one's life without paying them any heed.
Some of them [i]appear [/i]to be posting on this thread, though mostly it'll be banter/trolling.
Does that get things in perspective?
stuartie_c, well put, sir, well put.
Living in a flat, bland, overcrowded area full of right-wing little englanders. People talking about driving from London to Wales for a day trip mountain biking?
T'ain't flat where I live, and what's this assumption from the likes of grum that the South of England consists soley of London and the Home Counties. The first unified Kingdom that these islands had was formed in the South West, and the capital was Winchester. We've got just as much history here in the South West as anywhere else, and we don't have to drive so far to trail centres, either. I don't drive to them at all, I've got plenty of countryside to play in from where I live, thanks.
No-one I know gives a toss about the Scots, or, frankly anybody much north of Birmingham, a general air of indifference is pretty much what you'll find.
tiger_roach - MemberIt's such a shame that the Scots feel that way about the English given we saved them after they screwed themselves with the Darien scheme.
Option a} You are being ironic.
Option b) One million sperm and you were the fastest?
Pearly Kings & Queens.
Jellied eels.
Eastenders.
Darn Sarf. No Thanks !
z1ppy - Member
When I say we were out for a drink, we asked for a drink @ 10.30 in a hotel we were staying in on the first night [a saturday night], and were given one grudgingly and then they shut the bar.. WTF?
It was nearly the Sabbath.
Would probably happened to a group of Scots in the same situation.
When Scotland play a football match English people support Scotland. When England play a football match Scottish people support the other team. I'm an Englishman who's lucky enough to live in Scotland and have many Scottish friends. I usually stay away from Scots when there's any big sporting thing on though because they can get a bit childish about it. I've never understood it fully. People tell me it's because of the media and commentators but I think it goes much deeper than that.
GiantJaunt - Member
When Scotland play a football match English people support Scotland. When England play a football match [b]some[/b] Scottish people support the other team.
Fixed it for you
http://news.scotsman.com/news/Would-you-believe-it-First.6186778.jp
Fixed it for you
Thanks, things are looking up. Do you know which pub he drinks in? I'll buy him a pint and watch the match with him.
I like england I just dont want to be part of it.
Northerners defined themselves quite a bit as not being Southerners
That only really applies to places that arent comfortable with there proximity to the midlands Manchester, Doncaster being prime examples. Cumbria, Northumberland, Durham dont make much of their northerness.
GiantJaunt - Member
When Scotland play a football match English people support Scotland. When England play a football match Scottish people support the other team....
Seen the same thing in Australia too.
I think the hatred the South of England have to the rest of England, Scotland and Wales is directly attributed to the lack of good mountainbiking.
We should call the new country: The United Kingdom of we have good mountain biking and the South of England have none...& Northern Ireland.
I think the South West of England is probably a different beast altogether.. We certainly don't hate the sweaty socks... I don't think we see the the point in wasting energy hating anyone really.. apart from grockles.
Its funny that South East England has no good mountain bike trails, because when I ride my local trails with people from Scotland, Northern England and Wales they all ****ing love it. In fact I ride regularly with a lad from Yorkshire and has been mountain biking for years and highly rates the trails down here. As for the comment about hearing of people driving to Wales for a days mountain biking - why not? You guys up north only ever ride your local trails? Anyone might think you may be a bit small minded with that attitude.
Oh...
some of my best friends are tight fisted haggis ticklers, mind you none of them are scottish 😀