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Is it only every now and again to appease other cultures?
I much prefer the easter dinosaur egg I saw, much better idea. Offend the lot of then
Every year, usually by the same people who invented 'Wintervile'
Homer: "We only get 30 sweet eggy days. Then the government takes them away"
Do easter eggs get banned ever?[s]y year or...[/s]
FTFY.
Yes they get banned every year that's why you never see any.
+1 cougar.
OP, whit ye gibbering oan about?
would anyone really GAS?
pretty sure the bible doesn't say anything about giving chocolate eggs and I'm equally sure kids and chocoholics aren't bothered about having religiously backed confectionary, so "chocolate eggs" as opposed to easter eggs, meh, who cares - except the daily mail types getting het up about them and their values being marginalised or whatever bollox they come up with to get angry about.
I also suspect it's the choccy makers trying to broaden their market rather than anyone actually getting upset about easter being foisted upon other cultures.
D0NK - Memberwould anyone really GAS?
Absolutely! Chocolate Egg Day is my favourite zombie holiday!
Yerp, it's coz ov dem muslamics and shariyer law innit.
/ridiculousmadeuphatestirringtabloidheadline
Easter is a top holiday, it reminds us of all the joy of having 2 short weeks together. Sometimes it's super special when a special person gets married and you get about 11days off for 4 days of annual leave.
I believe Bill Hicks covered this.
I'll set it as homework, for the un-initiated.
Or it's your birthday 2 days before, so get 6 days away from [s]the pit of dispair[/s] work, for the price of 2 days leave

Reading the Daily Star by any chance?
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/502959/PC-Chocolate-makers-ban-Easter-from-eggs
That story has more bollocks in it than a rugby team bath.
This prompted "angry and frustrated" campaigner David Marshall to set up the Meaningful Chocolate Company, in which his Fairtrade charity "Real Easter Egg" puts the religious message on to the packaging.
Which "religious message" would that be then?
Presumably some nice background information about the goddess ?ostre and the pagan fertility celebrations using rabbit, egg and chick symbology?
And they go on to quote spokesman who completely contradict the click-bait headline:
A Nestlรฉ spokeswoman argued: "There has been no deliberate decision to drop the word Easter from our products."A Cadbury spokeswoman stressed: "We do not have a policy to drop Easter from our eggs."
A Sainsbury's spokesperson said: "We sell a wide range of Sainsbury's Easter Eggs and do not have a policy relating to the word 'Easter'."
But that's at the end of the article and Daily Star readers are unlikely to get that far before being distracted by some sidebar boobies.
It's another pagan festival that the church couldn't stamp out so they renamed it. You may as well fill your boots with pagan eggs as you're going to hell for a good torturing anyway.
best ignoredBut that's at the end of the article and Daily Star readers are
Pagan egg sounds fun
Why would the choccy companies consider banning easter eggs when they can sell 99p of chocolate for 5.99 by putting it in an egg-shaped mould and over packaging it?
sauce? I've heard that line before (and believed it) but pretty sure last time I googled it various sources suggested it was probably made up.It's another pagan festival that the church couldn't stamp out so they renamed it.
<edit> Not that zombie egg day was made up, we already know that, I mean the factoid that the pagans were already there but had their holiday TWOCed by those nasty christians
sauce? I've heard that line before (and believed it) but pretty sure last time I googled it various sources suggested it was probably made up.
On these occasions I always rely on the The Venerable Bede, (672-735) who in his book De Ratione Temporum said that Easter was named after Eostre. [i]She was the Great Mother Goddess of the Saxon people in Northern Europe. Similarly, the "Teutonic dawn goddess of fertility [was] known variously as Ostare, Ostara, Ostern, Eostra, Eostre, Eostur, Eastra, Eastur, Austron and Ausos.[/i]
sauce?
This seems like a good start:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/?ostre
Which bit in the bible describes the traditional Easter eggs, bunnies and chicks? ๐
yeah the only historical reference to it, who several people think [s]is a bit dodgy.[/s] may not be entirely accurate in all his writings.On these occasions I always rely on the The Venerable Bede
I'm all for a bit more ammo against organised religion, but I'd like to be sure of my arguments and the only source being a weirdie beardy religious type, weeeeeeell call me cynical if you want......
If only we could find some kind of expert on Early Christianity with particular reference to the Saxon period?
Does such a person even exist and, if so, what are the chances of them reading this thread?
That would be a spooky coincidence indeed.
Did you watch the BBC documentary on Cadbury chocolate factory?
Ya, your chocolate comes from cheap labour in other countries ...
Nope I don't buy Easter egg ... ๐
The only people that should be offended by modern day easter are actual christians (I mean [i]actual[/i] christians, not christians-by-default, that weird 50% of self-declared christians that don't believe in god...). All of a sudden they find that the death of their lord jesus christ only really matters because you can use it to sell chocolate, that must kind of suck.
Northwind - Member
The only people that should be offended by ...
I am offended because them chocolate are no longer produced in BritLand Birmingham Bournville ... ๐ก
What's a modern day Easter Egg?
Pagan egg sounds fun
I think they sell those in the back room in Ann Summers.
Ya, your chocolate comes from cheap labour in other countries ...
Good! I'm glad my cash is providing employment and investment in impoverished countries.
Would they be better off without the work? ๐
Seriously though, 99% of consumer stuff in this country involves "cheap labour in other countries" at some level. Kinda hard to avoid that.
We sell Easter Eggs made by nice people in Belgium.
Every Easter Saturday the church turn up opposite our shop and give Cadburys ones away.
The news that they are made by children in death camps is good news to me. I shall be expecting some serious self flagellation from them this weekend.
Drac - Moderator
What's a modern day Easter Egg?
maybe...?
ones made of chocolate, as opposed to the olden days i've read about when they were real eggs. but hand painted to make them magic.
just like those described in the bible....
just like those described in the bible....
That Bible must've been heavily edited because it also omits any mention of trees, feasting, yule logs etc at Christmas.
Christmas was ripped off from the Roman festival of saturnalia.
Every year, usually by the same people who invented 'Wintervile'
Just in case anyone didn't already know, Winterval (ie "winter festival") was an attempt to boost trade by extending the Christmas retail frenzy out from October to January, the key foundation of it was Christmas. They just linked it up woth halloween, diwali etc. It was an attempt to get more trade into the city centre, not an evil plot to steal Christmas.
And I've got a non-denominational chocolate ovoid on my desk that says "Your [b]Easter egg[/b] has been made with Cadbury Dairy Milk" on the packaging. So Cadbury aren't hiding it very well.
thepurist - Member
just like those described in the bible....
That Bible must've been heavily edited because it also omits any mention of trees, feasting, yule logs etc at Christmas.
akshully.
the bible is very specific about christmas trees.
something along the lines of:
"do not copy the godless northerners, who chop down trees in winter before decorating them in gold and silver, as items of worship"
(Jeremiah 10)
GrahamS - Member
Ya, your chocolate comes from cheap labour in other countries ...Good! I'm glad my cash is providing employment and investment in impoverished countries.
Ya, but I am still paying rip-off obvious is obvious BritLand price innit!
Would they be better off without the work?
Do you want to save the world?
Yes, they are better off without work.
Seriously though, 99% of consumer stuff in this country involves "cheap labour in other countries" at some level. Kinda hard to avoid that.
Seriously if you want to produce in "3rd world" then you should charge "3rd world" slavery price rather than rip-off BritLand I see you coming price. ๐
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That Bible must've been heavily edited because it also omits any mention of trees, feasting, yule logs etc at Christmas.
As grum says Christmas is another example of Christianity hijacking an existing festival because they couldn't stamp it out. Hence a lot of the unrelated symbology: mistletoe, holly, trees, etc
In fact Jesus probably wasn't even born in December at all (or in a stable for that matter).
I'd say Judaism has a fair idea about this Jesus chap. According to it, JC is just a prophet and not such a big deal as Christianity makes him it to be.
As far as I know JC was born around September but was put to being born in December as another pagan festival hijack.
In fact Jesus probably wasn't even born in December at all (or in a stable for that matter).
And I seriously doubt his dad was a car painter.
Apparently the original text doesn't say carpenter, but 'master', which could mean craftsman of some kind but also king in a literal sense. Lots of room for (mis)interpretation.
If only we could find some kind of expert on Early Christianity with particular reference to the Saxon period?Does such a person even exist and, if so, what are the chances of them reading this thread?
That would be a spooky coincidence indeed.
Just took a look-in on this thread, and figured that since whoever it is perchy is referring doesn't seem to have shown up, I would try to cover.
I can only begin by saying: holy smokes, can we talk some bollocks on here. ๐ I firmly believe in people's right to question and criticise religion, and even make a joke or three, but I don't believe it's helpful to spout pseudo-facts as they somehow they represent an actual truth.
But let me start by saying that I don't think Christians are remotely bothered by chocolate eggs at Easter or toys at Christmas. Well, maybe some are, but I haven't met any. I rather think that such quality publications as the Sun, Star, and Daily Mail like to fan their self-generated flames at this time of year by bemoaning the 'corruption of real, traditional, British Easter'. And some of you are apparently not only reading it, but also buying into it.
That said, I can't even keep up with the nonsense having been offered across some prior posts. I mean, referring to Bede as a 'weird religious beardy type' (or something like that), and to talk of the Church as having ripped off a bunch of Roman and Germanic festivals for its own purposes? The first is just silly: a bit like referring to Einstein as having messy hair and being stuck in the past. [He did, and he was; but mostly because he [i]lived[/i] in the past.] The second is like categorising common perceptions as scientific fact. [We accept, for example, people calling the sky 'blue', but scrutiny tells us that it isn't actually.] In other words, there may be [i]some[/i] relation to the truth in these statements, but they are not even close to the whole story.
Unfortunately, I don't have the time this evening to describe the development of the modern calendar, and the history of the Paschal computus, but I will genuinely try to later if I get a chance.
I heard his old man worked at the Maserati as a painter
Nice one donk. I've never questioned it before. It seems obvious that pagan festivals have been nicked by the church, but how would anyone know for a fact? Bede was writing 600 years after Christianity first arrived.
It's another pagan festival that the church couldn't stamp out so they renamed it.
Not sure they actually did rename it..?
Anyway, there is clearly pagan influence in both Easter and Christmas. If you are Christian, there'll be a lot more Christian content; if you're not, you seem free to ignore it.
That's my uninformed impression though - hopefully SaxonRider can educate us a bit more on how our festivals came about with reference to the early church ๐
Jeramiah 10 doesn't mention Xmas trees at all. It does say to ignore signs in the sky though - like stars over stables for instance.