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so.... sometime ago, my better half painted the bathroom walls with normal paint i.e. not classed as 'bathroom' paint, it has now started peeling off in places, due to the moisture. (we have an extractor fan and keep the window open most of the time)

Any suggestions on how to remedy this?

I'm thinking it will be a bad idea to just paint over the top of it, as there will still be a risk of it peeling off again?


 
Posted : 20/05/2012 5:43 pm
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Painted on to plaster or lining paper, or other paper?


 
Posted : 20/05/2012 5:51 pm
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Any suggestions on how to remedy this?

get divorced and remarry someone who knows which paint to use of course


 
Posted : 20/05/2012 5:54 pm
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Sadly, leffeboy is taken.


 
Posted : 20/05/2012 5:56 pm
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@ cynic-al - painted onto plaster

@leffeboy - a bit extreme methinks! 😆


 
Posted : 20/05/2012 8:40 pm
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I had exactly this and painted over the top using bathroom paint, no problems except for it looks crap where the peeled off under paint is, as the uneven surface shows. Been meaning to sand it all back and start again but never got round to it.


 
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Was it on to fresh plaster or old paint?

If fresh plaster, and I'm guessing it was vinyl emulsion straight on, without first priming with dilute basic emulsion, or primed with pva first.

If old paint, the above probably applies and the new paint has reacted with the old causing it to peel.

Either way, the only proper remedy is to completely remove the old paint.. Best way is to scrape it with a blade scraper, a steamer may help.


 
Posted : 20/05/2012 8:46 pm
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It was onto pretty fresh plaster - it had a coat (maybe 2) of basic emulsion first, then was painted, missus than decided she didn't like that colour, and painted over it with the current colour, which has started peeling in places, revealing the plaster


 
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I'd have given it a PVA primer first, whatever paint I was going to use. Sounds like a long tedious scraper mission I'm afraid.


 
Posted : 20/05/2012 9:24 pm
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Sounds like a long tedious scraper mission I'm afraid.

...For her 😉

//wanders off to peruse B&Q et al for paint scrapers//


 
Posted : 20/05/2012 9:27 pm
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Do not use pva before painting, ever!

This is what you need

http://www.screwfix.com/p/heavy-duty-scraper/16530


 
Posted : 20/05/2012 9:41 pm
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@funkymonkey - thanks - i'll get one of those ordered for her.


 
Posted : 20/05/2012 9:50 pm
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And some of this for the inevitable gouges

http://www.screwfix.com/p/polycell-polyfilla-trade-interior-filler-2kg/36426


 
Posted : 20/05/2012 9:55 pm
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Never use PVA on any surface that you will be applying emulsion! Scrape back to bare, mist coat with contract emulsion then 2 coats of vinyl emusion to finish. If bathroom gets really steamy and often use a bathroom specific emulsion.


 
Posted : 21/05/2012 1:55 am
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Tile it, easier to clean and looks better


 
Posted : 21/05/2012 2:01 am
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I'd sand it back and use some proper bathroom paint on it.
That's what we used in our last house & it was a bathroom with no windows. We had a fairly decent extractor fan but it still used to get steamed up.
The bathroom paint was fine though. Must have been done 5 years before we moved out & it still looked ok. It's pretty durable, so there is no real issue with cleaning it.


 
Posted : 21/05/2012 7:41 am
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Why no pva? Interested to know as I was told that was a good way to prepare before painting.


 
Posted : 21/05/2012 7:52 am
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PVA forms a skin on the surface which then things don't stick to all that well, also PVA is water based, so when it get's damp, it falls off again.

PVA'ing everything in sight is an old plasterers and builders thing, I'm predominately a tiler and the amount of people that say 'I've PVA'd the walls for you' is astounding, normally the plasterer telling them too but it's the worst thing you can do if you want tiles to stay in place!


 
Posted : 21/05/2012 7:58 am
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noted - thank! Off to dispose of the huge tub of pva in the garage....


 
Posted : 21/05/2012 8:13 am