That spurred this more general follow-up article about the British Horse Society asking drivers to pass horses slowly:
This has just reminded me that riding home past Percy Pit last thursday I saw a trotting pony legging it past the queue of traffic on Lemmington Road pursued by a mob of the cream of West End youth. No idea how that ended up but it was quite a sight.
answered 3 questions as an afterthought when we got back to the test centreDid you get them right?
Two out of three I think.
I got the one about horses wrong 🙂
This has just reminded me that riding home past Percy Pit last thursday I saw a trotting pony legging it past the queue of traffic on Lemmington Road pursued by a mob of the cream of West End youth. No idea how that ended up but it was quite a sight.
It probably had nabbed their tenner deal and was off for a bucket in the field before bedtime.
Yep. That was the original article:
That article annoys me.
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How can you tell that last one is an Audi?
By the parking?
Google image search reveals...
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/portslade-audi-tt-crash-car-3111885
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There was a good one with an Audi A5 clearing the customs hut at the french-swiss border.
I liked this one of wild Audis mating:
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By the parking?
Another blinder!
Hmm. They all seem to be TT's (and one Cabrio).
Therefore, I conclude TT's and Cabrio A3's are more likely to be spooked and bolt whilst out on the road.
just google audi in a houseHow can you tell that last one is an Audi?
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[/img]there's a audi estate in a cottage too but tea and kittens blocked it so either mail or expressHmm. They all seem to be TT's (and one Cabrio).
so [b]that's[/b] how they make a hardtop convertible, it is written, every day is a school dayI liked this one of wild Audis mating:
Maybe the A5 driver had been watching Transporter movies:
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Spotted the estate in the cottage one, will get a link
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GrahamS - MemberBy the parking?
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Just to make it clear - is your argument that horses shoudl not be allowed on roads?
I was trying to address the notion that horses shouldn't be on the road, something which I can see you have not actually said
Actually I have said that no-one should be on the road if not in full control of their vehicle, and have stated that one is ever fully in control of an animal.
So yes, I have stated that horses shouldn't be on roads, and given good reason.
It won't stop me driving carefully around them, and it's not like I am so against them that I'm lobbying for a ban of horses on the road, but it remains my opinion.
It is silly to use historical arguments in support; times change.
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and have stated that one is ever fully in control of an animal.
Ok. So you think that no rider can ever be in *sufficient* control of a horse to justify riding on a road..?
I have to ask - how much experience do you have with horses?
Ok. So you think that no rider can ever be in *sufficient* control of a horse to justify riding on a road..?
Nope, same as I think dogs should always be on a lead.
I have to ask - how much experience do you have with horses?
Riding them? Very little.
Witnessing them out of control? Enough for me to have the opinion I do.
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Actually I have said that no-one should be on the road if not in full control of their vehicle, and have stated that one is ever fully in control of an animal.So yes, I have stated that horses shouldn't be on roads, and given good reason.
If you go down that road sbob then presumably you'd also want to prevent livestock from being driven on the road (in the original sense of the word) and make sure there are fences on all roads to prevent sheep etc wandering aimlessly onto them?
It seems a very exclusive "Roads are for cars. Other things can use them only with special permission" viewpoint.
same as I think dogs should always be on a lead.
short lead too.
not one of those extending tripwires.
especially if i'm anywhere nearby on a bike.
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If you go down that road sbob
He can't. It's full of some ****ers' sheep.
GrahamS - MemberIf you go down that road sbob then presumably you'd also want to prevent livestock from being driven on the road (in the original sense of the word) and make sure there are fences on all roads to prevent sheep etc wandering aimlessly onto them?
It seems a very exclusive "Roads are for cars. Other things can use them only with special permission" viewpoint.
I appreciate what you are saying Graham and the opinion I have given is overly simplistic, but to adapt your statement, most of the roads we build are primarily for cars.
I'm not saying that is necessarily right in all circumstances, but it is true.
most of the roads we build are primarily for cars
However most of them are also perfectly usable for horses and bikes.
Very little.
Witnessing them out of control? Enough for me to have the opinion I do
Oh come on - if you saw someone fall off their bike, would you think bikes are unsuitable for roads? Or would you conclude insufficient skill on the part of the rider?
Why would the horse be any different? They CAN be controlled well enough, so if they aren't it's a mistake on behalf of the rider. Of course it happens, but then so does people crashing cars through their own fault or falling off bikes.
That's the crux of our difference in opinion.
I think (most, not all) people can be trained to a high enough standard for safe road use.
I don't think animals can.
"He's never bitten anyone before..." 💡
I have the sneaky suspicion some posters on here have a hidden agenda:
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to adapt your statement, most of the roads we build are primarily for cars.
I'm not saying that is necessarily right in all circumstances, but it is true.
Yep, that's true by the nature of the roads we build.
However it is one thing to effectively exclude legal tax-paying road users through bad design (even if it is deliberate and intentional), but I think to actually recognise and condone that practise in law would be a very different prospect.
Don't come in.
I said DON'T come in! Dammit.
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What we need is fewer people on our crowded roads so we (the British people) can all use them safely.
Can we blame this on the immigrants? 😆
SAVE HORSES! VOTE UKIP! 😆
I don't think animals can.
On the basis of very little experience with horses.
Ok then - your opinion is noted and filed 🙂
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molgrips - MemberOn the basis of very little experience with horses.
Ok then - your opinion is noted and filed
Similarly with your grasp of basic comprehension. 🙂
Until a year ago,I lived in a rural village with several livery stables within a couple of miles.In 15 years the only riders having problems controlling their horses,had had a close encounter with an irresponsible car driver.Oh,and yes I do drive a car,and am very happy to slow down for horses on public roads.Just like learner drivers really.
Nope, same as I think dogs should always be on a lead.
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I'm not sure that picture will be of any comfort to the 200,000+ people who are bitten by dogs each year andy.
I get the feeling you're not really much of an animal person sbob 😆
That's a flawed argument unless you can directly link number of attacks with dogs on or off leads and the actual cause being that the dog was off the lead and not some other factor which is over-riding.
How about we ban cars from roads as the 2013 figures are:
1,713 killed, 21,657 seriously injured, 160,300 injured and those are the lowest since records began.
the 1998 figures were: 3,421, 41,000 & 281,000
why dont we eat all the animals, then thnis wouldfn't be a problem
How about we ban cars from roads as the 2013 figures are:
Fewer injured than by dogs?
Not the best argument you could put across andy.
GrahamS - MemberI get the feeling you're not really much of an animal person sbob
Is it the repeated use of the phrase "perverse inter-species relationship" that gives it away? 😆
I've little against most animals, but I do think owners of pets should be responsible in their keeping.
Like keeping dogs on leads for example.
Again, this is a simplified view.
There are fenced areas near me for the specific purpose of letting dogs run about freely, which I have no problem with.
why dont we eat all the animals, then thnis wouldfn't be a problem
I've been doing my best to achieve this for years.
But I can't do it on my own, some of you aren't pulling your weight !
Yeah, no horses on the roads. Or walkers. Or children. Or tractors. Or buses. Or livestock. Or wild animals. Or cyclists. Or… anything that makes me drive with care, attention and restricted speed.
If you see someone riding a horse on the road, slow down, pass wide, don't be a dick.
By the parking?
Genius. Hurty laughing.
It's sudden movements and unexpected noises that spook horses (and riders)
This is largely true. In all the years I've been out on public highways on bikes and in cars, I've only witnessed horses out of control twice.
And one of those occasions the culprit was me, and the horse wasn't actually out of control itself, I came up behind the horse and called out "hello, is it ok to come past?", at which point the horse shied, but was back under control very quickly.
I apologised, but the rider said, no, no need to do that, it was her fault, she'd been miles away, and I'd made [i]her[/i] jump! In doing so she'd jerked the reins, and made the horse react.
The second occasion was on the Sustrans path from Chippenham to Calne, which the Council has allowed horses to use. One evening I saw a horse in front react badly to a low-flying Chinook, and it took off at a gallop, narrowly missing a couple of youngsters on bikes, with the rider clearly barely able to stay on board, let alone control the animal.
He only stopped when he got to the road and the horse couldn't go any further due to the fence and gate.
don't be a dick.
A lesson for all of life not just passing horses...
