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If you full screen STW you just get huge black bars. Nothing you are interested in gets any bigger.


 
Posted : 08/11/2016 4:50 pm
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Oh, and desktop calculators, are you quite mad?

I'm not just adding up or working out percentages.


 
Posted : 08/11/2016 4:55 pm
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[b]screen real estate[/b]

No-one called it that did they. Please tell me no-one called it that.

+1

And touch screen Lenovo carbon x1 negates the need to get arsey with folk who touch the screen.


 
Posted : 08/11/2016 5:39 pm
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I like it when people I am trying to instruct have touch screens. Instead of "That one, click there, no, there.. nooo.. not that one, half way down on the left.. no far left.. no.. nooo.. up, up, up, no down, no too far" you can just click on it yourself.


 
Posted : 08/11/2016 6:06 pm
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Funny, I can't stand seeing other windows and distracting crap behind the window I'm working in. Probably why I dislike working on Macs

Erm, you can do Full Screen on a mac.


 
Posted : 08/11/2016 6:17 pm
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The thought of a touch screen computer makes me feel slightly ill. I probably clean the screen on my phone more often than I use it.....the thought of having a monitor sized area covered in finger prints makes me shudder. Particularly other peoples. Imagine having their snot/food/dribble/bum scratchings daubed on your screen......

Erm, you can do Full Screen on a mac.

Newer ones may do. I remember when we first got one at home quite a few applications would go totally full screen (no menu bar) or random floaty window (office 2011 I think). I had to install some macro/extension to sort it and calm me down enough to use it. Maybe I didn't know how to use it properly but internet trawls at the time seemed to suggest that it was a commonly perceived flaw of the OS/MSoffice (or "feature" if you are one of the iSheeple ๐Ÿ˜‰ ).

Mind you I despise Macs so much that I try not to use it if at all possible for anything beyond internet browsing and Lightroom.


 
Posted : 08/11/2016 6:22 pm
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Me too, but it's not nearly as bad I was expecting it to be. Different glass on touchscreens I think.


 
Posted : 08/11/2016 6:25 pm
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I haven't seen it for years now but people who go for some garish 'theme' probably a load of pinks and change their cursor to a banana or dinosaur. You may like it but I just can't deal with that shit on top of whatever it is you've cocked up so I'm here to sort out ๐Ÿ‘ฟ


 
Posted : 08/11/2016 6:38 pm
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Holy cow.. novelty cursors.. circa 1996! Do people stil do that?

EDIT apparently still possible: http://www.digitalcitizen.life/top-10-best-mouse-cursor-schemes-windows

There's a hello kitty one ๐Ÿ™‚


 
Posted : 08/11/2016 6:39 pm
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Overcrowded system trays. Stop it starting, you don't need it.


 
Posted : 08/11/2016 7:05 pm
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There's a hello kitty one ๐Ÿ™‚

That is NOT appropriate use of a smiley ๐Ÿ‘ฟ


 
Posted : 08/11/2016 7:41 pm
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People with more than 20% of thier desktop covered in icons, especially when some of them are in the quicklaunch area of the task bar. Peope who have a bunch of printer [s]utilities[/s] bloatware shortcuts for a printer they haven't used for two years, I'm looking at you. These are also people who basically only ever use a browser on a day to day basis. Better have it on quick launch and have 2 desktop shortcuts, just in case.

People who have more than one antivirus app running, especially the perfect storm of norton and McAfee. Although it's forgiven when they proclaim me a genius when I remove them and thier PC starts functioning again.

My computer is slow/takes so long to start up, looks at start up items, it's so long it has a scroll bar.


 
Posted : 08/11/2016 8:42 pm
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People who don't have the git bash completions enabled. I have to watch them solemnly typing out branch names, rather than just hitting tab.

How is that possible, isn't it enabled by default in most shells?


 
Posted : 08/11/2016 8:56 pm
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I can't use other peoples Windows machines because they leave them at default settings and they have several thousand windows open fullscreen and a desktop filled with icons. Hate the icons in the taskbar, have reverted mine to name and (almost) no grouping so I can actually just click once to find the window I want if it's not showing. Rarely fullscreen. Ideally I try to arrange windows so that there's always a safe-to-click portion of every window visible somewhere on the desktop. Remove as many icons from the desktop as possible - there's only a collumn on the lhs, and a few less frequent but useful icons in the tl corner. Irfanview as default image handler (despite loathing its default window-resizing behaviour), along with registry hacks for the context menu so only two clicks needed to open images in my choice of editor ps/gimp/etc, registry hacks to extract images from docx/pdf (combined with cygwin scripts) etc.

Had to tell a colleague who repeatedly touched my monitor the other day to stop. 2nd time. Seems to have got the message though now.


 
Posted : 08/11/2016 8:58 pm
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Typing h t t p : / / w w w . etc. GTFO!

I used to support this shit. "Can you tell me the address?" - "Sure, it's aitch tee tee pee double-dot..." WTF, did you go to school?

People who have messy desktops.

My desktop is a disaster area, but I use it as a scratchpad, like having one of those A5 landscape paper notepads on a real desk. Anything on the Desktop is transient, things I need to deal with later.

There's a limit to how long a line of text can be before it starts to become less legible or understandable so having a really wide website doesn't make sense.

Back when the Internet was in black and white, text used to reflow. Halcyon days.

I used to know someone who would go to every website via Google, like they thought that was how the browser worked or something.

That smells like an AOL legacy.

People who have more than one antivirus app running, especially the perfect storm of norton and McAfee.

I physically twitched reading that.


 
Posted : 08/11/2016 8:58 pm
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Incidentally, what do you all think of my use of Chrome? I've routinely got so many tabs open that there's no text, just icons. When the icons disappear I have a purge.

Irfanview as default image handler

Holy shit, is that still going? That used to be my weapon of choice in Windows 95 days. Is there any advantage to using it on a modern PC?


 
Posted : 08/11/2016 9:03 pm
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Regarding fullscreen windows - I hate floating windows, but tiling is good. Why doesn't Windows have better tiling support? I'm starting to actually quite like windows after years of not using it. It has great dev tools, visual studio c++ is improving, nvidia nview is fantastic, and WSL and Bash are getting pretty good now, but why can't I snap a window to the top half or bottom half of the screen with my keyboard. Or even top right corner. I've looked for a decent solution but there are none.

And desktop habits I hate - +1 to double clicking links on the internet. The company I work for actually develops a web app where you have to double click links. I absolutely hate it. Horrible. It almost makes me want to get a new job.

People using Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V when you can select and middle click (mac and linux) is annoying.

Opening applications using anything other than Windows+"type the first few characters of the app"+enter is annoying

But basically watching another person using a computer is annoying.


 
Posted : 08/11/2016 9:03 pm
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Just reminded me, people who continue to type a long search term when the search tool has already suggested exactly what they want after typing the first or second character. Arrrrgh!

People who scroll through massively long menus for years when they can just press 'I', to jump straight to 'I'm beyond help'


 
Posted : 08/11/2016 9:20 pm
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On the Mac I've just about given up on going through the Finder (or its alternative views) to get to anything: Cmd+spacebar brings up Spotlight and I just type what I want to find. I think people must think that if they've got a mouse then they should be using it - give 'em Vi(m) to work with, that'll sort 'em out ๐Ÿ˜ˆ

Lots of tabs in Chrome? I try and limit myself to half a dozen or so (got seven open currently) but if I'm searching for things or comparing prices or similar then I can get up to twenty or so.

Length of lines/text reflow: A lot of sites are designed to be pixel perfect rather than adapt to screenwidth, things are changing as people realise that things should be fluid.

Git Bash extensions I read as "Bash extensions" but I thought they were enabled anyway. I've quite a few git shortcuts - can't be bothered to remember some of the arcane bits of git


 
Posted : 08/11/2016 9:40 pm
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Touch my screens ,you die


 
Posted : 08/11/2016 9:41 pm
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why can't I snap a window to the top half or bottom half of the screen with my keyboard.

Windows Key + Cursor key? Or is that not what you were looking for?


 
Posted : 08/11/2016 9:47 pm
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When I started a new job a few years back, both my screens had biro marks on them from some one poining at something. Permenant black BIRO MARKS!


 
Posted : 08/11/2016 9:52 pm
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Incidentally, what do you all think of my use of Chrome? I've routinely got so many tabs open that there's no text, just icons. When the icons disappear I have a purge

That ought to be banned. If I were a Google employee I'd have some code in there that when your 20th window opens a message pops up saying 'close some tabs you messy sod'.

You can't see what they all are, and you aren't using them, but you are wasting RAM.


 
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Agreed, once your tab bar is full and opening new tabs compresses them into icons, you should probably have a think about whether you really need them all open right now. I'm sure there are exceptions, but you can usually make use of pinning regular websites/pages to a bookmark bar.


 
Posted : 08/11/2016 10:05 pm
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When I get to about 20 tabs in chrome I open it again. I think I've got 3 going at the moment, each with about 15 tabs. All stuff I need, honest.


 
Posted : 08/11/2016 10:07 pm
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Keep your pooter silence as I don't really want to listen to your news or music when you sit next to me working ... ๐Ÿ˜ก


 
Posted : 08/11/2016 10:09 pm
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I have way too much crap on my desktop tbh. Enough that I've ended up just giving up on good file management, and added the desktop to my backup routine.

My little brother's a nightmare for opening a million windows. Web browsers especially, if he's been on a PC you sit down and discover about 10 firefox instances each with at least 10 tabs open, how he can ever find anything I don't know. Maybe he doens't, and that's why he has to open so many tabs.

Just occurred to me that I've not had anything on my second screen since red bull rampage, it seems to be officially only used for mountain bike live events now (I only installed it so that when I was doing boring stuff in Eve Online, ie almost all of the time, I could look at [s]boobs[/s] stock prices and classic philosophy texts


 
Posted : 08/11/2016 10:10 pm
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Fullscreen windows argh +1
More than 10 Chrome tabs argh +1
Anyone using IE OMG how could you, it blows goats


 
Posted : 08/11/2016 10:12 pm
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When I get to about 20 tabs in chrome I open it again. I think I've got 3 going at the moment, each with about 15 tabs. All stuff I need, honest.

This is when you raise a ticket with IT, my machine is slow, I need to be upgraded to 16gb ram! 8)


 
Posted : 08/11/2016 10:12 pm
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Full screen or no screen. The rest of the web seems fine with it so I am too.

Like a nice wallpaper, no icons on desktop. Don't care if I only see it on boot. Anything I use regularly is on quicklaunch, the rest is Win+. IE really isn't as bad as it used to be, I tried to like it but it still doesn't support middle click tab opening so FF it is. Edge is a piece of shit though, no idea what they are up to there.


 
Posted : 08/11/2016 10:31 pm
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You can tab between applications on Mac. Command Key (used to be the Apple key) + Tab.

Exactly the same as Windows.


 
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If you full screen STW you just get huge black bars. Nothing you are interested in gets any bigg

Err you just press <cmd>+ and increase font/text size till content fills the screen (Mac but I am sure there is a similar Windows key sequence)


 
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Anyone using IE OMG how could you, it blows goats

I am a goat!


 
Posted : 08/11/2016 11:06 pm
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Windows Key + Cursor key? Or is that not what you were looking for?

Close, but (on my my computer at least) it will only snap to left or right, not top and bottom, which is a bit rubbish for a monitor i have oriented in portrait.


 
Posted : 08/11/2016 11:17 pm
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Err you just press <cmd>+ and increase font/text size till content fills the screen

But why would you? The scale of the content would then not match everything else.. ugh.


 
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Excelling in politics, exceling in UX lol!


 
Posted : 08/11/2016 11:23 pm
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chambord: Windows key + Up [i]should[/i] snap it to the top half of the screen and a second press should make it full screen. Likewise Win + Down snaps to bottom and a second press minimises. You can also do 2x2 snaps.

http://www.howtogeek.com/198230/how-to-use-snap-assist-and-2x2-snap-on-windows-10/


 
Posted : 08/11/2016 11:36 pm
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But why would you? The scale of the content would then not match everything else.. ugh.

It scales the whole web page so it looks fine and is easier on my old eyes.

(I generally use Ctrl+Mouse Wheel to find a nice size which also tends to work in decent text editors etc)


 
Posted : 08/11/2016 11:39 pm
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Chambord - what OS? In 10, Win + L or R arrow to snap side to side. Win + Up arrow takes it to top quadrant, win + down arrow to bottom quadrant. Its great. You can also 'snap' the windows by holding and dragging to either a side or corner. Works well across multiple monitors too.


 
Posted : 09/11/2016 7:38 am
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It scales the whole web page so it looks fine and is easier on my old eyes.

Yes but your icons, menu bars and all still stay small. Mismatch.


 
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Top and bottom snap only came in in Win 10 I think - left and right in 7


 
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One fingered typing make me sad.

It is pretty useful when you're so drunk you have to close one eye to focus and you have urgent email to get done.


 
Posted : 09/11/2016 12:15 pm
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You can't see what they all are, and you aren't using them, but you are wasting RAM.

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Agreed, once your tab bar is full and opening new tabs compresses them into icons, you should probably have a think about whether you really need them all open right now.

I'm only wasting RAM if I'm not using it. What's the point of having it sit there empty?

I'm not using the other tabs and don't need them open right now. However, (at work at least) they're things I'm going to need to come back to as they relate to stuff I'm working on. But they're all transient.

Let's see. On my work laptop currently I've got a couple of tabs relating to Apache / PHP security hardening; three articles on vCenter SSO integration with AD; an article pertaining to Cisco IOS naming conventions; an MSDN page where I can get a licence key and image download; some stuff about iSCSI; a spec sheet on some Cisco SPF modules; a couple of internal systems; a Google page of search results; an article on using openssl to convert certificate types; web mail; Facebook; STW, and a Cisco firmware download page.

All of these are pertaining to different jobs I've got on the go, either to-do or in progress. I'm locking down an internal web server before it's made publically accessible. I've got to migrate a VMware estate from standalone to a new Windows domain. The naming conventions thing is something I'm going to read when I've got chance just for personal education. The MSDN page is because I'm building a Windows storage server and waiting to see whether I can get a licence key through our Volume Licensing before redeeming my own MSDN key. The iSCSI relates to this also, it's another lengthy knowledge article I need to read. The SPF doc relates to a WAN upgrade where people are continually asking me questions around cabling and compatibility. The Google search is because like U2 I still haven't found what I'm looking for. The openSSL stuff is for support I'm giving to one of our Engineers, he's dealing with the customer and they're being random (I asked him to get the certificate and they sent him a switch firmware image...!) And the Cisco download is for an image another Engineer requires, it's only open because the IOS is still downloading and I'm waiting for it to complete before closing.

All of these things are pages that whilst I might not actively be using, I'll need to refer back to over the next few days / weeks. One the job / task is complete, they'll be gone never to be needed again. Bookmarking them is pointless because I'll then spend half my life un-bookmarking things. They also serve as a handy aide memoire; I was working on the website last week and other things took priority; with the tab still open, I know I've still got work outstanding to do.

Top and bottom snap only came in in Win 10 I think - left and right in 7

In Windows 7 it cycles Win-up and Win-down cycles between maximised / restore down / minimised.


 
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