[Closed] Deliberately incendiary computer argument

I piss on your cheap tat. (BBC B with 6502 2nd Processor)

Druidh - you can keep your FRAK! and Elite - I'll take JSW and knightlore anyday...

Commodore 64 wins coz that's the only one (think that's another brand called Wang ...) I had at school for playing PacMan but an eight year old Ukrainian boy beat me in that game.

I'm clearly too young to know what the old folks are talking about, and I'd imagine at your ages you all smell of wee anyway.

Jetpac and Lunar Jetman

Case closed

Frak on 5.5 inch floppy. FT(1988)W

zx better than c64.OUTSIDE!(in a pseudo cockney accent)

😀

kevj - Member
Frak on 5.5 inch floppy. FT(1988)W

tsss you needed an atari 520F

http://www.oolite.org/

C64 with Vic 1541 disk drive.

Spectrum was generally for poor people, and the few unfortunates in our area (not many as we lived in an affluent suburb) used to come round to mine to play games in colour.

Looking back, there is a direct correlation between computer owned/status now. Spectrum owners I'm afraid tend to be locked in the cycle if benefit dependancy, with feral children - flagbearers for Broken Britain.

[img]ftp://ftp.worldofspectrum.org/pub/sinclair/hardware-pics/ZXSpectrum48K.jpg[/img]

She was a beauty, eh?

Sabre Wulf, Atic Atac and Manic Miner / JSW FTW.

I up your C64 (had one after a ZX81) with an IBM 3081, the next 'real' computer I 'played' on.

IF NOT "ATARI400"
THEN "TRS80Colour"
ELSE "ORIC"

but yes, C64 classier than Speccy, but more fun on the speccy. I used to sell them back in the early eighties. Sadly my ZX80 and 81 got nicked, but I still have the ATARI 400 and a bunch of cartridges.

Surely the VIC20 was the direct competitor to the ZX Spectrum?

Elite on the BBC.
Pure genius, 8 galaxies, hundreds of planets and 3d graphics in 32k!
Today's programmers couldn't get near it.

Did the C64 have Ant Attack before the Spectrum?

I think not therefore immediate fail.

b r - Member
I up your C64 (had one after a ZX81) with an IBM 3081, the next 'real' computer I 'played' on.

When, after an upgrade or two, we had some 370-158s, one of the IBM CEs arrived with this floppy disk (8" as it happens). He opened the door under the console and inserted this into the microcode reader (floppy disk drive) and booted the machine from it. We now had one of our 3 mainframes playing a really, really crap version of Pong. And when I say one of the machine was playing it, I really do mean that. It needed the whole system!

ha ha but you guy didn't have a T-O8 a pure beauty from franc finest 😀

winston_dog - Member
Elite on the BBC.
Pure genius, 8 galaxies, hundreds of planets and 3d graphics in [s]3[/s][b]22k!
Today's programmers couldn't get near it.

You can't compare a legendary machine such as the zx spectrum with a minor footnote in computing history like the C64. Please.

There's an interview online somewhere with one of the old ultimate programmers who says they had knightlore ready before some other games (sabre wulf if I recall), but had to hold it back as they knew it would flatten every other release around that time. A revolutionary game.

Here is the your sinclair [url= http://www.ysrnry.co.uk/articles/ystop100.htm ]top 100[/url] of spectrum games as a reminder of what quality was being laid at our feet in those days (#1 is a travesty but still). I tried to find a C64 list but no one could be arsed putting one together.

Garry. You are wrong.

Me and my mate knocked up a 1K Defender for the ZX81 without RAM pack, written in Basic because that's all we (almost)knew. Sold enough mail order from a classified in Your Computer to buy the next machine, then official looking threats from Atari came in the post so it was knocked on the head.

Looooosers!

DEC alpha FTW!,
If not then PDP-11

All else are pale imitations

druidh - fair point - there wasn't much RAM left after the graphics had their share.
Shows even more skill from the programmers.

Surely the VIC20 was the direct competitor to the ZX Spectrum?

This. And while the spectrums rubber keys with whole words on were nothing to be proud of it had the best games. Sold mine to get an ER50 & girls 😀

I had both a Speccy and C64. They were both ace, so there!

to all those who think the zx is better than the c64 [img] [/img]

Did the C64 have Ant Attack before the Spectrum?

[url= http://www.sandywhite.co.uk/fun/ants/ ]Unlikely.[/url]

Did the C64 have Ant Attack?

Love these threads, reminds of reading 'Mastering machine code on your ZX81' by Toni Baker...

I had the 128k+2, getting the screw driver out adjusting the head a quarter turn and hold down the play button to get copied games from the barras to work!

Older brother had C16 before that mind, but I only really remember donkey kong. Special shout goes out to my mates amstrad CPC464 green screen. 2 player Silk worm on that wasted months of my childhood!

DEC alpha FTW!,
If not then PDP-11

Charlie, thanks for taking me back there; my first job was with DEC

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Atari ST because of Cubase. If you went into any recording studio in the 80s and 90s you would always see one taking pride of place.

Dragon 32 FTW.

Spectrum was generally for poor people

maybe in your posho area! spectrum was for the rich kids here - they got the spectrums, then us pooros got a c64, then the richos got a c64 and ended up with two computers... 😉

DEC alpha FTW!,
If not then PDP-11
Charlie, thanks for taking me back there; my first job was with DEC

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My first machine was the PDP. Eeeee!

Got Fuse on my desktop, and Marvin on Android here. I've no beef with this thread.

I play speccy games on the train when 3G is working like 3G does 🙂

still got a Spectrum 48k+ somewhere!

I had this weird Speccy that my Dad picked-up when his school were binning them. It's the classic 48k speccy but in a Datel Electronics case with a proper keyboard and everything.

God I was cool. 😈

MrK mkII - Member
Spectrum was generally for poor people
maybe in your posho area! spectrum was for the rich kids here - they got the spectrums, then us pooros got a c64, then the richos got a c64 and ended up with two computers...

Three words, Sprites and SID. That is all.

Chuckie Egg.

(sigh...)

EDIT: What about Horace goes Skiing? BBC Micro classico!!!!

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ZX Spectrum and C64....didnt we all have both, one after the other?

I got up at 6am 6 days a week for for MONTHS to do my milk round to get the £125 I needed for my Spectrum. Kids today.....

Was Elite a Spectrum or C64 game? Nothing before or since has come close.

For anyone interested in how the 64 came about can heartily recommend [url= http://www.amazon.co.uk/Commodore-Company-Edge-Brian-Bagnall/dp/0973864966/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1322034814&sr=8-1 ]Bill Bagnal's book[/url]. A brilliant story of genius engineers and a megalomaniacal boss.

Commodore 64 was a proper computer. The Spectrum was a toy for games. Loved both though 🙂

I had:-

ZX80
ZX81
TI 99/4A
Atari 1040ST

Awesome days 🙂

I have an amstrad pcw green screen thingy in the attic all safely stored awaiting it become and antique worth millions

Didn't everyone with a BBC become a MAC owner?

That's the burden of owning a bbc, all that superiority is too difficult to let go of. You can't possibly just go and own a PC now.

Mix it up with the commoners? Mother of titan, give me something that shows I'm better. I don't care how much it costs.

No-one has yet mentioned the Mighty Acorn Atom. Best keyboard ever, proper clicky. Accept there were only about 9 games for it, but even so.

Someone lent me an original Apple II with a green screen. I was so traumatised with its rubbishness, it was 20 years before i could bring myself to buy a mac.

Dragon32, Oric-1, Vic-20 - classics of their time. Anyone remember the even earlier "home computers" - Sharp MZ80? Pet?

BBC Micros? Pah, Johnny come lately types. I think my Acorn Atom is still sat somewhere in my parents loft.

You all fail. This was the turning point.

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*high fives with thepurist* I knew someone else had bought one 🙂

@bb - i had one of those and wrote a mate's best man's speech on it. God Alive, it'd have been quicker to chip it out of slate.

Was Elite a Spectrum or C64 game? Nothing before or since has come close.

BBC B, originally.

We had a Pet, Alex. It even had games on it.

I had a ZX80 too which came out a bit later (1980). Won a hundred quid on the premium bonds and bought a computer with it. My parents said it was a waste of money.

I seem to have done alright out of getting into computers early.

Amiga > Atari ST
C64 > ZX Spectrum

That is all

'Mastering machine code on your ZX81' by Toni Baker.

I had that book 🙂

Used an Atom at school, a really bright lad (he must have been about 13 years old!) wrote a very good space invaders game on it in his lunchtimes, all written in assembler (which the Atom/Beeb had built in of course!)

Well I did a thesis on it, took forwever mind but it was a stunningly simple and easy piece of kit I'd ever used. Networked too...

jeeeze is this argument still going on.i thought i'd settled it with my fist waving smilie (C64/amiga A500+ for the win 😉

Oh definitely. Amazing how far psion were ahead of everyone else, and then it all went wrong. I had about three of their graffiti PDA's.

The mz8k wasn't quite as cutting edge as I remembered

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ZX80? Man's machine that one 🙂

Incidentally,

http://eggcitingnews.com/

anyone ever have one of these (i did 😀 [img] [/img] it was awesome 😀

And we're all forgetting the beast that was the RM 380-Z

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Raceface > I had Astro Wars, Scramble and Firefox F-7 (and a Big Trak), but that one passed me by I'm afraid.

And we're all forgetting the beast that was the RM 380-Z

That was what our school equipped our "computer lab" with (mid 80s). Five machines connected to a single pair of 5.25" floppies for storage. With all five going at once, the lesson was over before anything had loaded.

You can't post things like C64 and Spectrum saying that's the end of the argument when those were mature devices. Loads of home computers along before them and even more rudimentary devices before that.

We had one of those Atari devices with pong on it and a gun game.

Anyone ever have an EMMA?

Used an Atom at school, a really bright lad (he must have been about 13 years old!) wrote a very good space invaders game on it in his lunchtimes, all written in assembler (which the Atom/Beeb had built in of course!)

A lack of built in assembler on the C64 was a bit of a pain, I ended up writing my own!

And we're all forgetting the beast that was the RM 380-Z

First computer I used 🙂

I'm having so many flashbacks, it's like being in 'Nam 😉

I once had a job of making 500 copies of some software using the two RM drives. Only after about 450, did I realise I'd been doing it the wrong way around.

EMMA? Nope. But I did see someone actually pay real money for an Osborne-1. The first not very portable computer.

I still remember Manic Miner taking ages to load off tape on the C64 (whilst displaying crazy flashing graphics that would surely now be banned for triggering epilepsy) and the sadness that came with hearing the tape click having reached the end and the game failing to load (think it was 16 minutes which was a lifetime at that age).

A mate had an Oric 32 - how I laughed :p I remember being blown away by an Archimedes the school got though, I'm sure I wouldn't be if I saw it's graphics today though :p