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[Closed] Dealing with manipulative people... what's your solution?

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Send the text to me I will write the reply 😉


 
Posted : 02/07/2013 4:30 pm
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Don't reply,it only feeds her behaviour,and be careful who you discuss it with,if she becomes aware that you are upset,that too will encourage her,just play it dead bat,ie "I don't know why she got so upset,it was all about nothing" etc.


 
Posted : 02/07/2013 4:35 pm
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If you can keep your cool for a while,she will go away and not bother you anymore,you'll probably find your friends are glad,as she'll not want to socialize when you are there.These people are sad and needy,but won't recognise it.


 
Posted : 02/07/2013 4:38 pm
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Pop round with a Smiths album,some whiskey and let the evening take its course.


 
Posted : 02/07/2013 4:38 pm
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Pop round with a Smiths album,some whiskey and let the evening take its course.

Or, a nice film to watch;
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Posted : 02/07/2013 4:40 pm
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NSFW but...


 
Posted : 02/07/2013 4:41 pm
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Pretty much what Cougar said.

The description in the OP made me think you MUST be writing about a mutual 'friend'. My wife had the misfortune to get drawn in to the world of perhaps the most passive-aggressive person I've ever met.

She is a large girl (mid 30s) and has a very, very loud voice. She dominates conversations and is incredibly sensitive to any suggestion that she is in any way out of order, whilst also being incredibly insesitive towards others. She dishes it out in spadefulls but can't take any back. At all. As in the OP, she lashes out verbally, sulks and badmouths whomsoever has been unlucky enough to cross her. Every ounce of drama is drawn from every situation.

On the other hand, she can be very thoughtful (rarely), is a great organiser and is good fun in a big group and small doses.

She wormed her way into our group of mates and although everyone feels the same way about her in private, she always jumps on any plans with huge enthusiasm, and no-one wants to tell her to get lost. We often organise holidays and away days in term time to avoid a huge scene (she's a teacher).

To make it all much worse, it turns out she's now going out with one of the guys in our social group. Frankly, he's a bit desperate, but none of us knew he was that desperate 🙁

Feel better for that.

EDIT - meant to say, the guy she's now seeing is a really gentle, unassuming kind of a guy. Not very socially able but still a decent bloke. All her previous relationships have been car crashes in slow motion, shrouded in secrecy and drama. This new relationship was kept secret from some of us for six months. God knows why, as no-one gives a shit really, apart from feeling sorry for the guy...


 
Posted : 02/07/2013 4:41 pm
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So what are you all doing for her imminent 40th birthday?

My partner's cousin is similar. He is 44, has not had a relationship for 20 years and long term unemployed. Despite this he has an incredibly high opinion of himself and seems to delight in trying to stir up trouble.

In my case this is mainly by mentioning incidents from 20+ years ago when we used to hang out in the same group and before I met my partner.

Ironically he is the reason that I met my partner 12 years ago when our group bumped into a group containing his female cousins.

Since then my partner and I have gone through a lot including having children, death of parents and serious illness. We have become responsible adults and parents but he does not seem to have grown up or changed at all.

We just try to have as little to do with him as possible but have to see him at family events. When he starts trying to wind either of us up we just change the subject or find that the kids suddenly need supervising!


 
Posted : 02/07/2013 5:00 pm
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So what are you all doing for her imminent 40th birthday?

There's a party, which I won't be at, despite having an invitation. I want to send a clear message without having to actually communicate with her...

Other friends will go I think, but as much out of a sense of duty/pity/longevity of friendship as much as anything else


 
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jesus who needs enemies with friends like you lot? must be nice being in the right all the time...sometimes people are just unhappy, for whatever reason. a true friend would engage and challenge (in a helpful way) her behaviour, and try and understand whats going on in order to offer help. [i]thats[/i] called growing up. remember, we all need a hand sometimes, consider yourself lucky that its not your turn


 
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Tantrums are attention seeking: been spoiled as a child and not been confronted enough to grow out of it yet. Will you be able to fix them? No! Can you make them regret crossing the line in future? Maybe!

IMO, ignore tantrums. Or give them something worth crying about. But don't play along.


 
Posted : 02/07/2013 6:02 pm
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Body-clock is ticking, she obviously wants your baby...

On the other hand, sounds like the classic definition of a non-violent psychopath!


 
Posted : 02/07/2013 6:06 pm
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[i]Once folk grow up (normally when kids appear), they realise that the 'old gang' was just that, something from their old days.[/i]

I find that rather sad.

Some of my peer group met in early-mid twenties, paired off in or out of the group, started families at about the same time, holidayed at half-term with the children, watched them grow up, and now anticipate the next generation.

She's been like it for twenty years, so I fear there's nothing you could do that would change anything.


 
Posted : 02/07/2013 6:10 pm
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Life's too short to be dealing with this. Just avoid her don't invite her to anything. If you have to be around her just tell her calmly that you are not going to enter into a discussion / comment on whatever issue she is raising. If she persists with others just ask her politely and in front of everyone to stop.


 
Posted : 02/07/2013 6:14 pm
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whats going on?40 posts and even hora hasnt suggest you shag her and be done with it!


 
Posted : 02/07/2013 6:53 pm
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Its one girl in the mans handbook that says emphatically no. She'd do it willingly then go round and confess to your partner that she 'should know'.


 
Posted : 02/07/2013 7:02 pm
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jesus who needs enemies with friends like you lot? must be nice being in the right all the time...sometimes people are just unhappy, for whatever reason. a true friend would engage and challenge (in a helpful way) her behaviour, and try and understand whats going on in order to offer help. thats called growing up. remember, we all need a hand sometimes, consider yourself lucky that its not your turn

Need any help getting onto that high horse of yours? 🙄


 
Posted : 02/07/2013 7:04 pm
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sometimes people are just unhappy, for whatever reason.

Sometimes, people are inherently just dicks.


 
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Other friends will go I think, but as much out of a sense of duty/pity/longevity of friendship as much as anything else

maybe they actually just like her, i like having friends that are ****s, as it makes me look good.


 
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a true friend would engage and challenge (in a helpful way) her behaviour, and try and understand whats going on in order to offer help. thats called growing up. remember, we all need a hand sometimes, consider yourself lucky that its not your turn

That's very true, but the girl I spoke of is no friend of mine. She's a hanger-on. A tagnut. I suspect the same is true in the OP's case.


 
Posted : 02/07/2013 8:13 pm
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Sometimes, people are inherently just dicks.

Sometimes, people are inherently judgmental.


 
Posted : 02/07/2013 8:16 pm
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Stop inviting her, she'll get the message soon enough.


 
Posted : 02/07/2013 8:34 pm
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Should've just locked her in a portaloo and left her too it. 😀


 
Posted : 02/07/2013 8:36 pm
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Should've given her a massive dab of MDMA.

Sounds like a classic case of d*ck deficiency syndrome. Can you not 'help her out'?


 
Posted : 02/07/2013 9:27 pm
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She doesn't sound that manipulative. Immature yes. Properly manipulative would mean far more subtlety than spitting the dummy and having a bit of a cry.

Anyway. Cougar has it nailed. Ignore, avoid, life is too short, and some people are simply giant rear ends who can't or won't be helped.


 
Posted : 02/07/2013 9:56 pm
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Just punch her!
You know u want to......

Or maybe the cats thing?


 
Posted : 02/07/2013 10:09 pm
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Sometimes, people are inherently judgmental.

Y'know, I think if I had the choice of being judgemental or being a dick, I'd choose the former.


 
Posted : 02/07/2013 10:16 pm
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Seems like you have two choices:

1. Help (sounds like it is needed) or,
2. Ignore

The stuff in between seems rather nasty, unnecessary and unpleasant to me.


 
Posted : 02/07/2013 11:02 pm
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Posted : 02/07/2013 11:08 pm
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Y'know, I think if I had the choice of being judgemental or being a dick, I'd choose the former.

Aye, I can see that's the general consensus of the thread.


 
Posted : 02/07/2013 11:13 pm
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Can't help but think the women's life is actually a bit grim.

But yeah, what Cougar said.


 
Posted : 02/07/2013 11:38 pm
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1. Help (sounds like it is needed) or,

Absolutely. I know I've given a very brief precis and not the full details but help and general 'putting up with x sulking again' have been very forthcoming for the last 20 years - from everyone in the group - all of whom are nice people who get on with each other very well... and have probably done more to help than most would have done.

It's the abuse she's begun to dish out in the last couple of years that's leading to people walking away... I don't think people are willing to help if that's what they get in return...

She fell out with her therapist too btw 😯


 
Posted : 03/07/2013 9:26 am
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you cannot help everyone and only you can decide if you want to help

We all gave up with a similar friend around the 40 mark as 20 years was enough for us all to learn nothing would change.

People make their own lives if you have not sorted yourself out to not be a complete asshole to those around you whom you love and respect by 40 then IMHO there is little hope.

perhaps loosing all here dear friends will be the catalyst..perhaps her behaviour means she will grow old sad and alone .....who knows but she is ploughing her own field and it is up to you what you will put up with


 
Posted : 03/07/2013 10:11 am
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Can you explanin why you actually bother to invite her to your get togethers ? Stop it. Now.

Just ditch her and move on.


 
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