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Anyone seen the Daniel Hannan Speech to Gordon Brown at Euro parliment(sic). Fantastic! Seems to be missing from utube (pilot error).
3rd thread on this topic so far 🙂
you see if the BBC had picked up on this, people wouldnt need to get their news from STW 🙂
Stoner. Why have the beeb not reported it?
Simonfbarnes. Which threads please, starting own thread seems a waste.
they finally covered it for a few brief moments in the Daily Politics show on BBC2 this lunchtime. But no other coverage by the news editors despite its penetration globally.
You can draw your own inferences (not just about the BBC but about the wider mainstream media).
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It was such a good speech it was worth three threads 😀
I'll put money on him being on the Tory front bench in time for the next election next year.
Yes, the media blackout is so much of a liberal conspiracy, that the Guardian is reporting it on the front page of its website:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/blog/2009/mar/26/danial-hannan-youtube
Thanks for the thread info will be over there shortly for a rant.
It was a truely brilliant speech I was so envious.
ransos - wrong, the guardian is reporting the "internet phenomenon" not the speech. Very different news agenda. I said in the thread yesterday that it would happen and that when they do do it, the mainstream media will be showing themselves up.
Stoner, the Guardian is drawing attention to the speech on its front page! The article covers both the internet phenomenon and the content. Hardly a news blackout...
ransos - the speech was made on Tuesday. Copy was published online staight after Gordon's speech. Hannan's speach was given 6 minutes after Gordons.
that is not cutting edge journalism whichever way you look at it.
What do you suggest they should have done? " Minor Tory politician attacks Gordon Brown" is hardly front page news. No, the interest around the speech is in fact to do with its being popularised by the web. As the Guardian reported.
I concede that, as has been mentioned before, its nothing more than a "Dog bites man" story. But not more so than most other political stories reported everyday. And his speech was one of only two given in response to Gordon's speech by British members of the EU. The BBC managed to find the time and space to report on comments made by a [b]non-UK MEP[/b] that were supportive of Gordon, natch.
Well Stoner, you can now rest easy: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/the_daily_politics/7965909.stm
I don't get any sense that relations between Labour & the BBC are exactly a lovefest. This is just a baseless conspiracy theory.
Ransos-the interest around the speech for those that have been able to see it is around the fact that Brown has been told the truth and lots of us love it. The delay in reporting is not just in the tax dodging guardian but also the torygraph. The bbc to scared to show it in case. If it was shown live across all channels tonight I reckon the mood of the nation would lift just like when england won the world cup.
dont see all the fuss
one scumbag politician slags off another scumbag politician
ransos - I know, I watched it live. And commented on it on the other thread I started yesterday.
Again the content of the very brief daily politics speech was more about the viral nature of its global penetration than the content. Not to mention the rather retrospective admission that the BBC HADNT covered the story until then. ALmost embarassed Id say.
dont see all the fuss
then these threads neednt concern you then.
Oh come off it, the nation is hardly going to rejoice in a slagging off coming from a Tory MP. Most of us are sick of the lot of them!
Will be on CH4 news tonight apparently. I guess reporting the internet popularity thing rather than the speech as a news item in its own right.
a "slagging off coming from a Tory MP" to you is a "voice of opposition" to others. In the politics of partisanship there is no "The Nation" there are parts [i]of[/i] "The Nation" - and for better or worse each parts' interests should be met. Or do you see censorship by ommission as being an acceptable feature of journalism and democracy?
"Censorship"!! FFS, grow up man. You said yourself that this isn't a particularly interesting story, and so has received the commensurate amount of coverage.
And as for "voice of opposition", I don't think so. Opposition is about a different way of doing things. The Tories have been conspicuously unable to explain how they would have avoided the current economic situation. Because they know full well that there's nothing in their policies over the last 10 years to suggest that the current outcome would have been different.
It was a well-delivered bitch-slapping for sure, but that's all it was.
the level of interest of the story doesnt not been that reporting neednt be balanced.
And of course it's a voice of opposition. An opposition attack needn't have answers to give it credibility. Hell, government statements dont even contain answers or plans: should they be ignored?
Im no tory, although yes I revel in any discomfort that Gordon can be made to feel, but your dismissal of the unbalanced reporting of two parties views on the economic prospects of the country says more about your partisanship than mine.
[url= http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/weo/2009/update/01/index.htm ]Our economy is going to shrink to a greater extent than any other of the advanced G7 economies. [/url]If you believe our prime minsister we "are uniquely placed" to ride the economic turmoil. In the sense that we are "uniquely" more ****ed than anyone else, maybe he's right.
Brilliant speech,I'm amazed that so many people are fooled by Browns blame smokescreening probably the lefty lemmings that voted them in, anyway he hit the nail upon the head....
it made me wet myself and cry 😆
mt - Member
the interest around the speech ......... is around the fact that Brown has been told the truth
But Hannan was extremely selective about the 'truth'.
And telling half-truths is as bad as lying imo.
But Hannan was extremely selective about the 'truth'.
and Gordon hasnt been?*
fire with fire and all that. War isnt pretty etc etc.
I know the Martin Bell school of politics would like to see all MP's pass a test of integrity before being permitted to wax on a subject but its not going to happen.
* EDIT: In fact gordon's been very quiet on his numbers and statistics lately. He's almost run out of good ones to pick!
SirJonLordofBike - Memberit made me wet myself and cry
LOL ! There you are Stoner - I told yesterday :
grizzlygus - MemberBut I'm sure however, that there are plenty of spotty faced tory-boys up and down the country wetting their pants, frothing at the mouth, and squealing in delight, at the sight of a video of Gordon Brown being denounced publicly in the European Parliament by a British MEP
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LOL !
and Gordon hasnt been?
Of course he has - but I'm not claiming that Gordon Brown has been telling the truth.
🙂 I thought you'd find that quick enough!
you try so hard to fight the intelligent line and then a tory boy comes along and undermines the point! 🙂
The BBC had it in full and interviewd the chap on PM just now. Many of these programs are planned early so cant adjust very fast. PM on the other hand is a little more topical.
I think we are now seeing how the internet brings the story to the viewers faster than the polititions spin doctors / lobbyists.
Isnt it called Webocracy ?
Still, Gordons not going to change his tune, so we are all ****ed.
At least Hannan had a chance to make his [u]politics[/u] heard on PM this evening as a direct result of the internet phenomenon grown up around the video.
It made me laugh.
Made me laugh too.
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Although possibly for different reasons.
did you catch Derek Draper on Channel 4 with Hannan?
Made me laugh.
Although possibly for different reasons too 🙂
Mrs Draper has some fine norks, though.
Draper on the Daily Politics show today up against blogger Guido.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/the_daily_politics/default.stm
Loving Guido's Berkeley shirt 😆 http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/feb/12/derek-draper-politics-cv-errors
Im loathe to criticise draper too readily as it would play into the hands of those that think Im just acting out some sort of "Guido" fantasy. I simply invite anyone to watch him at work in front of the screen. Twice today, as Andy has linked, as well as Channel 4.
That he is considered an approrpiate voice for the left is probably more insulting to the left than the wider population that are forced to watch him in partisan discussions.
That he is considered an approrpiate voice for the left is probably more insulting to the left than the wider population that are forced to watch him in partisan discussions.
There's always that fine, upstanding stalwart of honesty and integrity, Mandelson. What a fine individual he is.