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Can they be inter-changeable?
The flip side of the same coin...
... or is there night and day between?

Some stuff is just obvious - especially physical courage - though that's often an "unthinking act".

What about "emotional courage" is it resilience or lack of imagination? Scared, but to scared to do something else?
I've said before, my great uncle flew bombers in the war - Stirlings, Lancs then Mossies. No traditional "heroics". Just another "target for tonight", with you or your mates not getting back. Similarly, old bloke who lived across the road - he was properly mad (as in affected). Spent the war on subs. Kept going back. The cold terror, contained at the time, but a genie unleashed when, afterwards, it no longer needed to be bottled

The burgled and the judge made the headlines this week. FWIW I think the judge needs his perspective corrected...

Interested in everyone's thoughts!

Any examples - personal or known to you?


 
Posted : 09/09/2012 8:59 pm
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My late uncle was lanc. crew. According to him that's not courage, it's doing what you're told because of peer pressure and fear of the consequences of refusing.

Courage is about doing something voluntarily. Cowardice is choosing not to do something.


 
Posted : 09/09/2012 9:25 pm
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sometimes it takes more courage not to do something.


 
Posted : 09/09/2012 9:28 pm
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the fight or flight instinct is a strange thing..

a split second analysis of each individual situation and a certain cocktail of chemicals released by the brain will determine if you are a coward or courageous..

over-riding that instinct is what makes the difference perhaps..


 
Posted : 09/09/2012 9:30 pm
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It's also about the risk to reward ratio.. If someone drowns trying to rescue a child, they're died bravely. If someone drowns trying to rescue a dog, well it's kinda dumb.

sometimes it takes more courage not to do something.

Some people have simple, silly fears - as small as "if I stop talking people will forget about me". Bravery can be very closely linked to confidence.


 
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The burgled and the judge made the headlines this week. FWIW I think the judge needs his perspective corrected...

Was he wrong? Burgling a house [i]is[/i] brave- overcoming the fear of being caught. Doesn't make it any less scummy, though. Cowardice would be wanting to rob a house but not doing it.

Bravery in itself isn't positive unless you're doing something brave and positive. But people get that confused and think bravery is automatically laudable. Often it isn't.


 
Posted : 09/09/2012 9:41 pm
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Tucker - agreed, and that's why I used that example...

Brakes - the sit tight and keep your head down scenario?


 
Posted : 09/09/2012 9:42 pm
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I don't think so.
Like in this example:

it's doing what you're told because of peer pressure and fear of the consequences of refusing.

it would take courage to not go.


 
Posted : 09/09/2012 9:51 pm
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edit - hmmmm, burglars and a classifieds rip off merchant; not the place for such a personal out pouring


 
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edit - hmmmm, burglars and a classifieds rip off merchant; not the place for such a personal out pouring

Not quite sure I follow your comment - are you suggesting one shows courage and one cowardice?

What about work / relationships? Opportunity of something new and exciting versus plugging away at the old? Courage to say "I'm going to go for that" or cowardice for not sticking out the old???

Conversely - courage for sticking at it, or cowardice for baling out, jacking.... After all it's those things we haven't done that are supposedly goths cause of most regret?


 
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it would take courage to not go.

Not really. At least if you stay you know you're not going to die.
No amount of peer pressure would make me risk my life.


 
Posted : 10/09/2012 7:42 am
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After all it's those things we haven't done that are supposedly [b]goths[/b] cause of most regret?

You've got to love phone spelling fiddlers - I'm sure I typed "life's" cause of most regret.

Where did the goths come from???


 
Posted : 10/09/2012 7:53 am
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Having climbed/sneaked into some abandoned buildings and industrial sites, dodging security guards etc, to take photos - I reckon burglary would require a fair amount of balls certainly (or desperation). I reckon it would also be a massive buzz.

Not sure if courage is quite the right word, or if people should be lauded for it...


 
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Where did the goths come from???

[url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goths#Origins ]Scandinavia.[/url]


 
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I reckon burglary would require a fair amount of balls certainly (or desperation). I reckon it would also be a massive buzz.

I'd say so. Burglary is normally committed by either drug addicts where the act would be borne out of pure desperation or career criminals. I reckon it would take more courage to sack off the robbing to earn an honest living. One they've experienced prison; they're not really scared of anything, they know most people won't confront them. For them, it's an easy way not to have to earn a living.


 
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Scandinavia.

I was [u]fully [/u]expecting that...


 
Posted : 10/09/2012 8:07 am
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cowardice

Fear reaction can be an incredibly useful and powerful motivator. It's there to keep you alive! Running away to protect yourself is the whole idea. But running away becomes immoral when you are committed to protect others.

So courage is about placing more importance on the lives of others than your own. And cowardice is the opposite,


 
Posted : 10/09/2012 8:08 am