[Closed] Conspiracy Theories that turned out to be true.

The Scottish Independence Referendum was rigged.

Do you think they're true?

Go on then jivebunny give us a clue.... I'm guessing not but you may say otherwise.... just a guess

Your mum

Ah a fellow fantasist/nutjob has turned up

Your mum turned out to be true, I for one was shocked..

How does that make me a nut job pray tell? Unless you are telling us that your mum was not in fact a conspiracy as I suspected?
I expect you to back your claims up with evidence

(the fact that I fantasise about your mum is neither here nor there btw)

[i]Go on then jivebunny give us a clue[/i]

please don't.

You've been on the pot again fella
C'mon Jive tell us the truth the suspense is too much

Your mum's been on the pot again

jivehoneyjive - Member
Let me know when you're in the mood for answering questions instead of cherrypicking

jivehoneyjive - Member
I'm a human being, I do as I do... deal with it, or be gone

One at a time please folks...

I'll come back to you CountZero, but 1st some insight into why

allegations that the Queen and Prince Philip abducted children from one of these schools in Kamloops in 1964

[i]may[/i] be true

First up a disclaimer... I don't conclusively know whether it's true or not and in isolation, my immediate reaction would be that it's some kind of hoax or fantasy.

However, more and more factors emerge which suggest it is an avenue worthy of further investigation.

Kevin Annett, who made the documentary which led to Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau recognizing the horrific genocide carried out in residential schools and calling for an apology from the Pope, also included the allegations in his documentary.

His investigations have over time led him to the conclusion that there is an international cult linked to Satanism and the occult, involved in child trafficking and ritual sacrifice, said to include senior members of the Catholic Church (Jesuits said to be especially involved in such activity) and various Monarchies of the world... Jimmy Savile was also said to be a member.

Kevin Annett has claimed to be involved in the resignation of Pope Benedict and a number of other senior figures in the Catholic Church for their involvement in ritual child abuse.

However, aside from the obvious skepticism that such claims generate, there are a number of sources who bring Annett's credibility into question.

Whatever the truth, his work on behalf for the First Nations peoples of Canada in the face of the terrible treatment received at the hands of the Church and the government (residential schools continued until the 1990s!!) certainly deserves recognition.

Going beyond Kevin Annett, the Dutroux case raises similar allegations of sacrifice and human hunting parties involving several high ranking people, including members of Belgian and Dutch Royalty:

[url= http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/correspondent/1944428.stm ]A BBC link on the case[/url]

The Belgian justice system appears paralysed, unable to prosecute Dutroux, his wife or the third alleged accomplice, all now spending their sixth year behind bars.

Each year of imprisonment without trial strengthens their case against the Belgian authorities for a breach of their human rights.

So why the delay?

The official answer is that a series of hysterical conspiracy theories forced investigators to search for paedophile networks, which didn't exist.

But for observers of this debacle, that's exactly what didn't happen.

Far from being investigated, leads pointing to a network seem rather to have been blocked or buried.

The judge in charge of the Dutroux investigation, Jean Marc Connerotte, made an appeal for victims to tell police what they knew. He offered them anonymity.

Police began checking Regina Louf's stories, corroborating details, investigating how much was true and how much might be fantasy. They verified key elements of Regina's story and found at least one murder that she says she witnessed matched an unsolved murder. But then something changed.

In October 1996, Judge Connerotte, the only man who has ever advanced the Dutroux investigation was sacked. He had attended a fund raising dinner for the families of missing children - this was seen as a conflict of interest.

A newly promoted investigating magistrate replaced him.

His first job would be Belgium's most controversial trial of the century. From that point on, according to the Russos, parents of one of Dutroux's victims, no new evidence against anyone was added to the Dutroux file.

The special team of police officers interviewing Regina Louf and the other "X" witnesses, as they were called, were the next to be sacked.

Here is [url= http://isgp.nl/Belgian_X_dossiers_of_the_Dutroux_affair_v1.1.php ]an in depth resource on the Dutroux Dossiers[/url] (warning, graphic images)

This year, a highly credible source has come forward with similar stories from the UK...

I've already mentioned Clive Driscoll (the Detective who secured conviction against Stephen Lawrence's killers) and his book, In [url= http://www.amazon.co.uk/In-Pursuit-Truth-Clive-Driscoll/dp/178503006X ]Pursuit of Truth[/url] in another thread (which also goes into further detail on many of the other worrying activities of the Catholic Church):

http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/the-holy-quran-experiment/page/5

In the excerpts in that thread, Clive mentions a Catholic secret society/cult linked to abuse in Lambeth and the involvement of MPs (a case from which he was mysteriously dropped after threats from those involved)

Here, Clive goes into Human Hunting Parties, where children are allegedly chased down and killed.

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Over the years there have been several sources (of varying credibility) suggesting that the upper echelons of Freemasonry, the intelligence services and the Monarchy are linked to the occult and ritual sacrifice.

As regards the children in Canada, we may never know the truth, as the all 3 of the witnesses claiming to have seen the Queen and Prince Philip abduct 10 children are now dead.

That. Hughie Green was Paula Yates dad.

[b]may[/b] be true

First up a disclaimer... I don't conclusively know whether it's true or not and in isolation, my immediate reaction would be that it's some kind of hoax or fantasy.

This would be a brilliant rule to live by.

"Conspiracy theories that turned out to be true" is an interesting one. In common use, "conspiracy theory" is the term we use for an idea which is such obvious bollocks that it clearly isn't in any meaningful sense true. Almost nothing that gets the label turns out to be true.

Grum's [url= http://theantimedia.org/10-conspiracy-theories-that-turned-out-to-be-true/ ]Anti-Media[/url] link above is a case in point. Most of what they claim "turned out to be true" would have been plausible enough on first suggestion. It's "true", but it only forms the kernel of someone's paranoid fantasy, most of which is quite obviously total nonsense. "Operation Northwoods" is [i]true[/i] in the sense that it was thought about but didn't happen, because what was proposed was stupid, monstrous, illegal and would have been impossible to cover up. It didn't happen. But there are people out there using the existence of the obviously unworkable, rejected, plan to prove the theory that the CIA/International Jooze did 9/11, because "They have done it before, look at [drum roll] [i]Operation Northwoods[/i]".

Jive is busily at it above ^^^^*. It's clearly true that plenty of people were maltreated in various children's homes. But we then go straight on to discuss with completely straight faces whether Prince Philip and HRH Queen Elizabeth II actually abducted 10 kids [i]personally[/i]. Which of course is something [i]they've[/i] done repeatedly, just look at this picture of Jimmy Saville etc. etc

It's the leap from something which is a fairly run-of-the-mill claim being verified, to that "proving" something which is completely out of the normal run of plausibility, on the basis of a fairly tenuous hearsay connection between the plausible claim and the daft one that gets something called a "conspiracy theory" in the first place.

* I haven't read the text-wall or its supporting links in any detail at all, because I cannot be bothered. Apologies if it makes more sense than usual.

🙂

Kevin Annett, who made the documentary which led to Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau recognizing the horrific genocide carried out in residential schools and calling for an apology from the Pope, also included the allegations in his documentary.

That Santa Claus. Has to be an alien or terrorist or something. Why else would NORAD be tracking him? We need to see the tapes.

Trudeau was just elected. Harper apologised for the residential schools on behalf of the government and people of Canada in 2008.

inspired by Krudd?
http://www.australia.gov.au/about-australia/our-country/our-people/apology-to-australias-indigenous-peoples
Makes you thing eh?

Kevin Annett, who made the documentary which led to Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau recognizing the horrific genocide carried out in residential schools and calling for an apology from the Pope, also included the allegations in his documentary.

Trudeau was just elected. Harper apologised for the residential schools on behalf of the government and people of Canada in 2008.

When was Kevin Annett's documentary released?

Did Harper ask for an apology from the Pope?

In its report last week, the TRC recommended the Pope travel to Canada within the next year and issue an apology for the church’s role in the “spiritual, emotional, physical and sexual abuse” of aboriginal students in Catholic-run schools.
The commission said the apology could be similar to the one issued by then-Pope Benedict in 2010 to Irish victims of sexual abuse by members of the clergy in that country.

*quietly closes the door and heads back to the bike forum*

Annett's documentary came out in 2006, the same year as (but after) the Indian Residential Schools Settlement Agreement. The agreement in turn was the out working of a 1996 report that also contained a recognition and apology for the schools. Th agreement then led to the creation of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission which recently published its report.

It's just not true that "Kevin Annett...made the documentary which led to Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau recognizing the horrific genocide carried out in residential schools and calling for an apology from the Pope". If that's the authority the child-snatching monarchs allegation rests on, it doesn't stack up.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Residential_Schools_Settlement_Agreement

Kevin Annett's documentary was the result of his years of campaigning on the issue, since being appointed minister to St. Andrew's United Church in Port Alberni, British Columbia in 1992; he served there until being summarily fired without cause or notice on January 23, 1995, after uncovering evidence of murders and land theft by United Church officers...

Of course, he isn't the sole party responsible for uncovering the scandal, but he has played a significant role throughout.

I've never understood why anyone thinks PRISM was a surprise, the NSA and GCHQ effectively created the computer and are specialists in eavesdropping on electronic traffic. Put two and two together and you get?

Four Shizzle?

I've never understood why anyone thinks PRISM was a surprise, the NSA and GCHQ effectively created the computer and are specialists in eavesdropping on electronic traffic. Put two and two together and you get?

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I'm a bit surprised to see it listed as a consiparacy theory- I'd have thought it went without saying that stuff like that went on and everyone knew it. I suppose the scale of it was surprising though.

I'm still curious why the [url= https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UKUSA_Agreement ]UKUSA Agreement[/url] secret treaty is beyond the authority of the Prime Ministers of the countries involved

The United Kingdom – United States of America Agreement (UKUSA, /ju?ku??s??/ ew-koo-SAH)[1][2] is a multilateral agreement for cooperation in signals intelligence between the United Kingdom, the United States, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand. The alliance of intelligence operations is also known as Five Eyes.

Much of the sharing of information is performed via the ultra-sensitive STONEGHOST network, which has been claimed to contain "some of the Western world's most closely guarded secrets".[11] Besides laying down rules for intelligence sharing, the agreement formalized and cemented the "Special Relationship" between the UK and the USA.

[b]Due to its status as a secret treaty, its existence was not known to the Prime Minister of Australia until 1973[/b],[14] and it was not disclosed to the public until 2005.

Who is the ultimate authority in such matters?

Who is the ultimate authority in such matters?

chuck norris

is beyond the authority of the Prime Ministers of the countries involved

No it isn't, GCHQ gets its funding from the UK Government and in the past things haven't always been cordial between UK and the USA.

Sorry, but that answer doesn't correspond with the information provided:

I'm still curious why the UKUSA Agreement secret treaty is beyond the authority of the Prime Ministers of the countries involved

The United Kingdom – United States of America Agreement (UKUSA, /ju?ku??s??/ ew-koo-SAH)[1][2] is a multilateral agreement for cooperation in signals intelligence between the United Kingdom, the United States, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand. The alliance of intelligence operations is also known as Five Eyes.

Much of the sharing of information is performed via the ultra-sensitive STONEGHOST network, which has been claimed to contain "some of the Western world's most closely guarded secrets".[11] Besides laying down rules for intelligence sharing, the agreement formalized and cemented the "Special Relationship" between the UK and the USA.

[b]Due to its status as a secret treaty, its existence was not known to the Prime Minister of Australia until 1973[/b],[14] and it was not disclosed to the public until 2005.

Who is the ultimate authority in such matters?

Who is the ultimate authority in such matters?

Not the Australian Prime minister then, I'm guessing?

The original UKUSA agreement was signed with Churchill's ( the then Prime Minister) knowledge, so I am really not with you, the authority for GCHQ lies with the Prime Minister.

Does that mean that if any of the countries in the Five Eyes alliance voted in a Prime Minister who no longer wanted to take part in mass surveillance of citizens, they could leave the alliance and override the secret treaty?

[url= http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/dec/18/police-claims-vip-sex-ring-murder-three-boys ]JHJ may have a point[/url]

You're a good un epicyclo, but not sure if the article you've linked is relevant here...

perhaps [url= http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/oct/23/gough-whitlam-1975-coup-ended-australian-independence ]this[/url] is what you were after:

Whitlam demanded to know if and why the CIA was running a spy base at Pine Gap near Alice Springs, a giant vacuum cleaner which, as Edward Snowden revealed recently, allows the US to spy on everyone. “Try to screw us or bounce us,” the prime minister warned the US ambassador, “[and Pine Gap] will become a matter of contention”.

Victor Marchetti, the CIA officer who had helped set up Pine Gap, later told me, “This threat to close Pine Gap caused apoplexy in the White House … a kind of Chile [coup] was set in motion.”

Pine Gap’s top-secret messages were decoded by a CIA contractor, TRW. One of the decoders was Christopher Boyce, a young man troubled by the “deception and betrayal of an ally”. Boyce revealed that the CIA had infiltrated the Australian political and trade union elite and referred to the governor-general of Australia, Sir John Kerr, as “our man Kerr”.

Kerr was not only the Queen’s man, he had longstanding ties to Anglo-American intelligence. He was an enthusiastic member of the Australian Association for Cultural Freedom, described by Jonathan Kwitny of the Wall Street Journal in his book, The Crimes of Patriots, as “an elite, invitation-only group … exposed in Congress as being founded, funded and generally run by the CIA”. The CIA “paid for Kerr’s travel, built his prestige … Kerr continued to go to the CIA for money”.

When Whitlam was re-elected for a second term, in 1974, the White House sent Marshall Green to Canberra as ambassador. Green was an imperious, sinister figure who worked in the shadows of America’s “deep state”. Known as “the coupmaster”, he had played a central role in the 1965 coup against President Sukarno in Indonesia – which cost up to a million lives. One of his first speeches in Australia, to the Australian Institute of Directors, was described by an alarmed member of the audience as “an incitement to the country’s business leaders to rise against the government”.

The Americans and British worked together. In 1975, Whitlam discovered that Britain’s MI6 was operating against his government. “The Brits were actually decoding secret messages coming into my foreign affairs office,” he said later. One of his ministers, Clyde Cameron, told me, “We knew MI6 was bugging cabinet meetings for the Americans.” In the 1980s, senior CIA officers revealed that the “Whitlam problem” had been discussed “with urgency” by the CIA’s director, William Colby, and the head of MI6, Sir Maurice Oldfield. A deputy director of the CIA said: “Kerr did what he was told to do.”

On 10 November 1975, Whitlam was shown a top-secret telex message sourced to Theodore Shackley, the notorious head of the CIA’s East Asia division, who had helped run the coup against Salvador Allende in Chile two years earlier.

Shackley’s message was read to Whitlam. It said that the prime minister of Australia was a security risk in his own country. The day before, Kerr had visited the headquarters of the Defence Signals Directorate, Australia’s NSA, where he was briefed on the “security crisis”.

On 11 November – the day Whitlam was to inform parliament about the secret CIA presence in Australia – he was summoned by Kerr. Invoking archaic vice-regal “reserve powers”, Kerr sacked the democratically elected prime minister. The “Whitlam problem” was solved, and Australian politics never recovered, nor the nation its true independence.

That article completely omits to mention the supply bill failure which actually precipitated the deadlock in the federal parliament (although the G-G's actions are now generally regarded as formally constitutional but entirely undemocratic).

The UKUSA...Due to its status as a secret treaty, its existence was not known to the Prime Minister of Australia until 1973,[14] and it was not disclosed to the public until 2005.

I daresay in that case you can furnish us with further details...

Details of other sources that also don't substantiate the Wikipedia article?

That's easy. Here's one: http://www.htpcbeginner.com/install-kodi-on-amazon-fire-tv/

Very helpful, thanks...

Who is the ultimate authority in such matters?

Not the Australian Prime minister then, I'm guessing?

Treaties, being agreements between states, are concluded under the authority of heads of state. As Jive really, really should remember from the interminably daft "[i]How Many Armies Does The Queen Have Up Her Sleevies?[/i]" thread, the prime minister of Australia was not the Australian head of state in 1973 and did not have executive authority (The PM in question was Gough Whitlam). The treaty would (I assume, IDGAS) have been signed for Australia by the Governor General (the one who dismissed Whitlam in the Australian constitutional crisis of '75).

I haven't got the energy to do a historical review of the law around secret treaty-making by the Australian state, but this [url= http://dfat.gov.au/international-relations/treaties/treaty-making-process/pages/treaty-making-process.aspx ]contemporary discussion[/url] of the treaty-making powers of the state makes it clear that it remains an executive, not a parliamentary, function.

As always, bothering to understand how the structures are generally understood to work does reduce the number of things that look like a terrifying conspiracy.

🙂

BigDummy - Member
...I haven't got the energy to do a historical review of the law around secret treaty-making by the Australian state, but this contemporary discussion of the treaty-making powers of the state makes it clear that it remains an executive, not a parliamentary, function.

As always, bothering to understand how the structures are generally understood to work does reduce the number of things that look like a terrifying conspiracy.

Is it democracy when we end up with secret agreements that are not ratified by the people we vote for?

I was in Australia when the govt was dismissed by the Governor General. The ground had been well prepared by the press and TV oligarchs, lots of fawning on the royal family and queen in the women's mags and papers, and wall to wall denigration of the govt.

There was plenty fury, and considering that many Australians blamed the USA for the magical disappearance of a previous PM (Holt), and that a considerable proportion of the population was armed, it would have taken just one shot to set things off. I'm sure contingencies had been made. In Queensland the savagery of police responses to protests was incredible.

I've been a staunch republican ever since.

Well I never, another matter I mentioned some time back has [url= http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/626318/Top-military-abuse-probed-Queen-Victoria-School ]finally come under scrutiny[/url]...

Officers allegedly covered up claims of a VIP paedophile ring at the Queen Victoria School

[b]Glenn Harrison was a housemaster at Queen Victoria School in Dunblane when he became concerned about a group of powerful individuals having access to his pupils.

He made a report to the old Central Scotland Police but officers responded by breaking down the door to his flat and removing computer discs, papers and other evidence.

Mr Harrison was then escorted from the school, which has Prince Philip as its patron, and questioned by detectives in a local police station.[/b]

After the disturbing incident in December 1991, he moved to Unst in the Shetland Isles and continued his successful career as a school teacher.

Despite the support of his MP, Jim Wallace, now Lord Wallace of Tankerness, Mr Harrison never received an explanation for the way he was treated.

He lodged further complaints in the wake of the Dunblane Massacre in 1996 and again in 2005, before launching a final quest for answers earlier this year.

Now the Police Investigations & Review Commissioner (PIRC) has written to Mr Harrison to confirm that his complaints have never been properly dealt with.

The letter states: "In your letter to Police Scotland on 6 September 2014, you raised the following complaints about the police:

"1) that, in December 1991, officers removed items from your flat without a warrant (and, in doing so, may have been attempting to destroy evidence related to your allegations about a possible paedophile ring);

"2) that officers failed to make specific enquiries into your allegations about a possible paedophile ring, and instead told you never to return to the school where you worked; and

"3) that the behaviour of officers towards you, as a teacher carrying out your professional duty to protect children, was entirely inappropriate.

"As far as I can ascertain from my examination of the papers provided by both you and the police, none of the complaints listed above has ever been investigated or responded to by the police. I have therefore written to Police Scotland requesting that it makes enquiry into the complaints listed above and thereafter provides you with an appropriate response."

Mr Harrison said he was pleased by the PIRC response but admitted that he was "not getting his hopes up" just yet.

He added: "This shows it was not just way back in 1991, it's all the years since including in 2005 when the police even came to see me in Shetland and then ignored me again.

"Police Scotland are more or less over a barrel because they can't ignore it. Now they have to explain to me why they have not investigated these serious allegations.

"I am not the issue here, Glenn Harrison the pain in the neck bringing up something from 24 years ago. The issue is the behaviour of the police who have broken their own code of conduct in order to achieve their own aims."

Queen Victoria School is funded by the taxpayer for the children of serving Scottish military personnel.

Mr Harrison claimed that boys were sometimes taken away to parties by high-ranking legal, military and political figures.

This group - known as the 'Friends of QVS' - may have included former solicitor general Sir Nicholas Fairbairn and the leading advocate Robert Henderson QC.

He later said: "They had to take their kilts and clean underwear and I was not given a contact address. What may have gone on at these parties was secret but some boys were very disturbed.

"I became disturbed, too, by screams in the dorm at night, empty beds, rituals in dark places and used, warm, filled condoms hurriedly abandoned. There was fear throughout every age group and the teachers knew about it."

The Holyrood inquiry into historic child abuse has been asked to consider the claims, with the Ministry of Defence confirming that it was "co-operating fully with the investigations".

Of course, at this stage it is just being investigated, but it is worth purusing these other articles for a bit more background; this 1st link is especially interesting as it details extensive correspondence with many people in authority in an attempt to get the matter investigated

The Housemaster said he was resigned to getting on with his life when in 1996 he switched on the TV at his home in Unst Shetland and saw the face of [url= http://www.tomminogue.com/jimmy-savile/sir-fixed-it-for-jim/ ][b]Thomas Hamilton the Dunblane mass murderer, who The Housemaster immediately recognised as one of the “Friends of QVS”[/b][/url] and a close friend of another housemaster, Ben Philip who lived in the flat below him at the school.

This 2nd link is from a more mainstream source:
[url= http://www.scotsman.com/news/who-does-the-100-year-ban-protect-1-545863 ]
Who does the 100-year ban protect?[/url]

WHEN Thomas Hamilton killed 16 children and a teacher in a school gymnasium in March 1996, it seemed to the world like a spontaneous and inexplicable act of madness. But in fact, there were many warnings in the prelude to the Dunblane massacre. Most of them were ignored or brushed aside by the authorities.

For 20 years, Hamilton’s name was enough to raise a groan in the offices of Central Scotland Police. For some officers, the name meant paedophile. For others, it meant hundreds of hand-written complaints against Hamilton by his neighbours, Stirling District Council and the Scout Association. From 1977 to 1996, officers investigated Hamilton, yet for almost 20 years, the force’s firearms unit granted him a gun licence.

the Herald Sun dug up the Harold Holt story again last week, albeit a reprint of a 2007 article

[url] http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/harold-holt-disappearance-48-years-on-and-still-no-answers/news-story/7ff164396203c126e561494161f2e0ad [/url]

incidentally and ironically we have a local swimming pool named after Harold Holt who definitely drowned but cause speculative

Does this count?

Hitler's chief of staff [url= https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Heusinger ]Adolf Heusinger[/url] went on to become Chairman of the NATO military committee

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Bit worrying when you add [url= http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/bank-of-england/10213988/Never-mind-the-Czech-gold-the-Nazis-stole....html ]this[/url] into the mix:

Indeed, the BIS was so useful for the Nazis that Emil Puhl, the vice-president of the Reichsbank and BIS director, referred to the BIS as the Reichsbank’s only “foreign branch”.

The BIS’s reach and connections were vital for Germany. So much so, that all through the war, the Reichsbank continued paying interest on the monies lent by the BIS. This interest was used by the BIS to pay dividends to shareholders – which included the Bank of England. Thus, through the BIS, the Reichsbank was funding the British war economy. After the war, five BIS directors were tried for war crimes, including Schacht. “They don’t hang bankers,” Schacht supposedly said, and he was right – he was acquitted.

Buried among the typewritten pages of the Bank of England’s history is a name of whom few have ever heard, a man for whom, like Montagu Norman, the primacy of international finance reigned over mere national considerations.

Thomas McKittrick, an American banker, was president of the BIS. When the United States entered the war in December 1941, McKittrick’s position, the history notes, “became difficult”. But McKittrick managed to keep the bank in business, thanks in part to his friend Allen Dulles, the US spymaster based in Berne. McKittrick was an asset of Dulles, known as Codename 644, and frequently passed him information that he had garnered from Emil Puhl, who was a frequent visitor to Basel and often met McKittrick.

[b]Declassified documents in the American intelligence archives reveal an even more disturbing story. Under an intelligence operation known as the “Harvard Plan”, McKittrick was in contact with Nazi industrialists, working towards what the US documents, dated February 1945, describe as a “close cooperation between the Allied and German business world”.[/b]
[b]
Thus while Allied soldiers were fighting through Europe, McKittrick was cutting deals to keep the Germany economy strong. This was happening with what the US documents describe as “the full assistance” of the State Department.[/b]

The Bank of England history also makes disparaging reference to Harry Dexter White, an official in the Treasury Department, who was a close ally of Henry Morgenthau, the Treasury Secretary. Morgenthau and White were the BIS’s most powerful enemies and lobbied hard at Bretton Woods in July 1944, where the Allies met to plan the post-war financial system, for the BIS to be closed.White, the Bank history notes rather sneeringly, had said of the BIS: “There is an American president doing business with the Germans while our boys are fighting the Germans.”

Aided by its powerful friends, such as Montagu Norman, Allen Dulles and much of Wall Street, the BIS survived the attempts by Morgenthau and White to close it down. The bank’s allies used precisely the argument detailed on page 1,295 of the Bank of England’s history: the BIS was needed to plan the post-war European economy.

From the 1950s to the 1990s the BIS hosted much of the planning and technical preparation for the introduction of the euro. Without the BIS the euro would probably not exist. In 1994, Alexander Lamfalussy, the former BIS manager, set up the European Monetary Institute, now known as the European Central Bank.