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The home has a problem with smokers - most do. Staff will find somewhere to smoke and usually what happens is that there is a blind eye turned to a particular place. Night staff in particular probably do not want to go that far so find somewhere else. Management are almost certainly unaware of the night staff smoking by the bins. Those night staff will probably have no idea its annoying you
Gentle complaint to the home is what I would do.
This reminds me of when some posh self-entitled woman demanded I stop smoking near her baby. In a pub beer garden.
I told her to **** off. 😀
Go you.
This reminds me of when some posh self-entitled woman demanded I stop smoking near her baby. In a pub beer garden.
I told her to **** off. 😀
Did she really 'demand'? because if it was a request, it seems a reasonable one to me. Not one you are legally obliged to comply with obv, but reasonable nonetheless?
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This reminds me of when some posh self-entitled woman demanded I stop smoking near her baby. In a pub beer garden.
I told her to **** off. 😀
Wow. I wish I could be as cool as you.
Did she really ‘demand’? because if it was a request, it seems a reasonable one to me
She demanded, from the outset. Had she asked nicely, I might have considered. She didn't choose to move to another part of the beer garden (there was plenty of space) and it's a PUB beer garden; it's an 'adult' space anyway. She expected me to change my behaviour, to suit her sense of entitlement.
The irony that she'd driven to the pub in a massive 4x4 was somewhat lost on her...
I wish I could be as cool as you.
I know.
Well the general opinion on here, is that if you can smell cigarette smoke or a joint, then it is posing significant risk to your health.
No doubt the vast majority who think this, will regularly expose themselves to far higher levels of carcinogenic fumes when they refuel their T5's.
Mmm, this sounds like one for @DHOTYA to me...
Well the general opinion on here, is that if you can smell cigarette smoke or a joint, then it is posing significant risk to your health.
No doubt the vast majority who think this, will regularly expose themselves to far higher levels of carcinogenic fumes when they refuel their T5’s.
I wonder how they feel about log burning stoves?
Well the general opinion on here, is that if you can smell cigarette smoke or a joint, then it is posing significant risk to your health.
No doubt the vast majority who think this, will regularly expose themselves to far higher levels of carcinogenic fumes when they refuel their T5’s.
For me, it's not that I think a whiff of either is doing me any serious harm, its just that to non users they smell absolutely minging (weed especially). In an open air public space, that's just something I have to tolerate, but in your own home it is (or should be) a different matter.
In an open air public space, that’s just something I have to tolerate, but in your own home it is (or should be) a different matter.
Should it? Do you have any right to a non smelly house?
I mean where do you stop? I live quite close to a number of farmers fields, when they are muck spreading, it is absolutely minging.
I'm sure it can be classed as a public nuisance or similar?
Maybe contact the Council?
I have nothing against people that smoke. Each to their own and all that.
It's just that I don't want to be smelling in in my house because the company next door didnt provide a smoking area for their workers to use. There is plenty of space down the side of the building where they could situate one and it would effect anyone then.
some posh self-entitled woman demanded I stop smoking near her baby. In a pub beer garden.
I told her to **** off. 😀
You sound more and more like Fred PaddedBra's very angry brother.
Anyway, what was the outcome.....did she **** off?
Or did say to someone "ere, hold by baby" and give you a good slap?
nip round and install a no smoking sign on the doors to the bin store. The management won't notice / care and the staff will think the management installed it so will probably comply.
All I can think is how awful it must be to be so addicted to something that you're prepared to stand around in a bin store to indulge in it. Poor ****ers.
I'd just shut the window if I was the OP.
company next door didnt provide a smoking area for their workers to use
They have no obligation to do so.
As many others have said, write a reasoned complaint to the company, and hope for the best, it's about all you can do. If they tell you to bolt, then shut the window.
Should it? Do you have any right to a non smelly house?
I mean where do you stop? I live quite close to a number of farmers fields, when they are muck spreading, it is absolutely minging.
I’m sure it can be classed as a public nuisance or similar?
Maybe contact the Council?
I live half a mile along a rutted bridleway in the middle of nowhere and am surrounded by fields so I get the muck spreading thing. It's not really equivalent in my view though. It's only for a few days a year, it's essential for the farmer's livelihood and food production, the farmer can't easily move that activity elsewhere and I knew I was in the middle of farming country when I moved here.
In the OP's case, it's a leisure activity/substance addiction that's stinking out his house, it's happening every day and will continue unless challenged and there is no pressing imperative for it to happen where it is. It could very easily be moved somewhere where both parties are happy.
From looking at the pic it’s almost a full house distance away, on their own property. You could ask the care home to provide somewhere else I suppose, but they have no obligation to do so
As for the care home laying down the law on whether their staff can smoke or not. Given care homes up and down the country are desperately trying to find and retain staff, I find it unlikely that they are going to risk pissing off their workers to appease a whiny neighbour.
This is situation that is easy to resolve to everyone's satisfaction with a little dialogue. I think calling the OP 'whiny' is more than a little unfair. Out of interest tpbiker, do you smoke?
The first page of this thread gave me a proper laugh, well done everyone.
I hope "set fire to their bins" will now be added to the list of responses for neighbour disputes going forward.
Unless you're in Glasgow, obvs.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-59165778
The irony that she’d driven to the pub in a massive 4×4 was somewhat lost on her…
I am not sure where the irony is in that statement.
I wonder how they feel about log burning stoves?
Or fire pits that make next door bedrooms smell like a kipper house the following morning.
This reminds me of when some posh self-entitled woman demanded I stop smoking near her baby. In a pub beer garden.
I told her to **** off. 😀
in at number 1 on todays list of things that didn't happen verbatim.
You sound more and more like Fred
PaddedBra’s very angry brother.
You're not the first person to suggest that regarding a user who popped up a couple of weeks after I publicly resigned as a moderator.
Makes you think.
. Out of interest tpbiker, do you smoke?
No…
I think calling the OP ‘whiny’ is more than a little unfair.
But Whether justified or not that’s most probably going to be the opinion of the carehome owners when the OP approaches them with another complaint about their employees smoking.
For what it’s worth I wouldn’t be particularly happy in the OPs shoes either if the smoke genuinely caused me an issue , and I’d probably say something as well. I’d also probably be labelled a ‘whiner’ for doing so, and I’d not be hugely optimistic about getting anything done about it
Simple chat with the manager / business owner.
Buy them one of these:
https://www.smokesolution.com/outdoor-smoking-shelter/
She expected me to change my behaviour, to suit her sense of entitlement.
I can see why that upset you.
@tpbiker all fair points, thanks for your reply 🙂👍
Maybe I'm naive, but I just think a straightforward chat could resolve this amicably. It doesn't necessarily need to be couched as 'a complaint', which immediately puts the recipient on the defensive. More along the lines of "you might not be aware but...", because they may genuinely be unaware and quite happy to maintain good relations with their neighbours. A friendly, non confrontational face to face chat. It might not work, but I think there's every chance it will.
when the OP approaches them with another complaint about their employees smoking.
It isn't another complaint – it is the same one.
What he just said, go and speak to them. Spraying some poor minimum wage care workers with a hose will do nothing but mark you out as an idiot not worth helping.
Maybe I’m naive, but I just think a straightforward chat could resolve this amicably. It doesn’t necessarily need to be couched as ‘a complaint’, which immediately puts the recipient on the defensive. More along the lines of “you might not be aware but…”, because they may genuinely be unaware and quite happy to maintain good relations with their neighbours. A friendly, non confrontational face to face chat. It might not work, but I think there’s every chance it will.
Absolutely this.
No need to be a keyboard warrior here (not saying the OP is), just go and have a chat with the manager in person.
Maybe I’m naive, but I just think a straightforward chat could resolve this amicably.
I said complaint, but really it's just an email asking if they could refrain from smoking there, it's not really a complaint, more of a request, nothing keyboard warrior about it, ask nicely and I'm sure they'll do what they can.
Asking in person? not really much chance you'd even get to a 'manager' (if there even is one on site), it'll be a clerk, or a porter or a care worker, and their chances of passing that onto nightshift are pretty slim, given that most of them are so understaffed, they'll be struggling to even have time to carry out all of their required tasks, and it's obviously the nightshift that needs to be asked.
Mrs is a nurse in a re-homed (due to covid) stroke rehab ward, which is effectively a care home tbh, and I can just imagine how seriously her ward sister would take someone coming in and saying there's a wee smell in their room, sometimes, when the wind is just the right speed and direction....
You’re not the first person to suggest that regarding a user who popped up a couple of weeks after I publicly resigned as a moderator.
Although the style has undoubted similarities the anger doesn't imo.
It was the reference to smoking which was actually the primary reason for my comment.
Fred had a cigarette lighter cage mounted on his bike frame, for easy access to his lighter whilst cycling!
And it was a proper looking thing not some bodge job. No idea where he got it from 🙂
I am not sure where the irony is in that statement.
Really? Have a good think about it...
Although the style has undoubted similarities the anger doesn’t imo.
SEP anyway.
But yeah, what Bloke said. The OP's 'complaint' is that people are smoking outside and he* wants his window open. I'm not seeing a legitimate cause for complaint beyond "I'd like..." which trumps what they'd like. But it can't hurt to make a polite request that they move a little further downwind.
My experience of smokers' general attitude towards their entitlement to smoke isn't favourable and I rather suspect that any complaint / demand would be met with the opposite reaction. Asking nicely though, they'd likely have had no idea that it was an issue in the first place. You might think your farts are bad but cigarette smoke is strong and carries a long way.
(* - I assume, other pronouns are available)
Really? Have a good think about it…
Yep, done that – she drives a car but asked you not to smoke near her child.
Please enlighten me as to what is ironic about it.