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Hi all.

I need some advice on an issue with a new care home that has been built next door to us.

First off I have no issues that the building is there. It has improved the area lots.

A building has been erected next to our house and it accommodates adults that have assisted living needs.

The staff have been provided with no where to smoke on their breaks and initially started standing at our back gate and smoking, dumping all the fag butts on the floor by our gate.

I went and made a complaint and it stopped but now they have taken to smoking inside the wooden bin store they have. This bin store is right on there boundry and is separated from our house by footpath. At night (and to be honest any other time of the day) the smoke is now wafting up into our bedroom as we like to have the window open at night. This has woke me up on numerous occasions as I think there is a fire. Only to then realise it's just them smoking.

Obviously it's not fair on them that they haven't got a dedicated smoking shelter away from where it will effect other residents but on the other hand why should my house smell like an ash tray when none of us smoke.

Is there anything I can do ?


 
Posted : 07/11/2021 10:52 am
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Frozen sausages.


 
Posted : 07/11/2021 10:57 am
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A possible line might be to complain about the location of the bin store. If close enough to your window that you can smell the smokers it might be too close to be a bin store. I forget which reg it is but there is one about not locating commercial waste too close to adjacent domestic residences for both fire, smell and pest control reasons.

Or sausages obvs.


 
Posted : 07/11/2021 11:28 am
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Speak to the care home management, ask them politely to solve the problem with their staff and point out that smoking in the bin store isn’t great H&S and is invariably a breach of condition on their insurance policy


 
Posted : 07/11/2021 11:31 am
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Set up a remote control flashing light and siren next to the fence on your side that you can trigger whenever you smell fag smoke. Additionally petition Steve Coogan to record Alan Partridge saying '*cough cough* For health purposes I advise you to give up smoking' that you can play at the same time as the flashing light.


 
Posted : 07/11/2021 11:55 am
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Obviously it’s not fair on them that they haven’t got a dedicated smoking shelter away from where it will effect other residents but on the other hand why should my house smell like an ash tray when none of us smoke.

Is there anything I can do ?

They have no obligation to do so. My local hospice has a strict no smoking on premises, same as NHS hospitals etc, but they also don't allow staff to smoke in uniform. They have to get changed and go out onto the pavement.

Complain to care home owner, all you can do.


 
Posted : 07/11/2021 12:09 pm
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Supersoaker

Or find the toughest looking one and batter them. Prison rules.


 
Posted : 07/11/2021 1:18 pm
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Be a shame if you had a sprinkler by the fence no ?


 
Posted : 07/11/2021 1:34 pm
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Set fire to bin shed. Smokers will get the blame.


 
Posted : 07/11/2021 1:42 pm
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Set fire to bin shed. Smokers will get the blame.

Genius idea.


 
Posted : 07/11/2021 1:49 pm
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Just remember to close your bedroom window first.


 
Posted : 07/11/2021 1:50 pm
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Giant fan might work.


 
Posted : 07/11/2021 1:59 pm
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If you set fire to the bin store don't do the sprinkler thing...might dampen their bonfire.


 
Posted : 07/11/2021 2:04 pm
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Take up smoking and then you won’t notice the smell.


 
Posted : 07/11/2021 2:05 pm
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Hang some cured meats and fish from your window and sell the smoked produce at local farmers markets.


 
Posted : 07/11/2021 2:20 pm
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Buy a new bike?


 
Posted : 07/11/2021 3:01 pm
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Buy a new bike?

Done that mate. Didn't stop the smoke smell 😃

I'm loving the ideas by the way 😂


 
Posted : 07/11/2021 3:20 pm
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Playing devil's advocate: does you liking having the window open trump them liking to have a cigarette in their yard? You could close the window and get a fan.

I dunno what the solution is here. Well, I do, it's the care home providing proper facilities, but that will involve money and they've already shoved the problem about once. It is private or council-owned?


 
Posted : 07/11/2021 3:31 pm
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I'm surprised that any care home allows smoking in uniform or on site. The adverse effects of second hand smoke is well proven and antisocial to the residents.

I would be heading round to the management and asking them to solve the problem of the smokers polluting close to your house.


 
Posted : 07/11/2021 3:41 pm
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This is the bin store where they are smoking. Our bedroom is top left.

Shouldn't I be able to have my window open without having to worry about the house stinking of cigarettes. It's blooming awful. It seems like most of the staff are smoking in there.

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Similar here, can sympathise with OP. 1st floor town center flat above a bar which is open from 8am to midnight with people smoking outside pretty much all day. Not much I can do; coffee and a fag is sacrosanct to the Spanish.


 
Posted : 07/11/2021 3:59 pm
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Put a small fan just outside the doorway of the room blowing inwards to create positive pressure this will stop the smoke coming in.
Then solve problem at your leasure.


 
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Looking at your picture there is a post box, so I take it that’s a pavement ?
If they smoked by the postbox there’d be absolutely nothing you could do. Luckily they’re not.
Polite chat with the manager, in all fairness I doubt you have a leg to stand on especially with a pavement between you and the care home.

Lol suck it up


 
Posted : 07/11/2021 4:22 pm
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Set fire to bin shed. Smokers will get the blame.

That is proper genius. Sometimes I'm not sure whether to be impressed or nervous at the way people's brains work on here.


 
Posted : 07/11/2021 4:42 pm
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I'm calling nonsense on you waking thinking there's a fire tbh, as said above, its no closer to your window than the pavement is.

Move to the back bedroom.


 
Posted : 07/11/2021 4:55 pm
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People don't tend to congregate on the pavement to smoke that's the difference.


 
Posted : 07/11/2021 5:01 pm
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Nothing to add but don’t you just love the word wafting, one of my favourites along with fettle.


 
Posted : 07/11/2021 5:06 pm
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People don’t tend to congregate on the pavement to smoke that’s the difference

The point is though, you bought an end terrace with a lane and presumably land awaiting development adjacent to it?. Beyond that fence is kinda outwith your control, all you can do is complain really, and hope they are decent folk.

I bought a house right next to a lane through to the liveliest main street in the county, we get the odd loud bugger late at night, and folk parking anti socially at times, but I knew that when I bought it, so am fairly ambivalent about it.


 
Posted : 07/11/2021 5:23 pm
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The point is though, you bought an end terrace with a lane and presumably land awaiting development adjacent to it?.

It's not a lane and I was quite aware of what was there when I bought my house and what was going to be built there.

We have no issues with noise or anti social behaviour. In fact as I pointed out in my first post the new build has greatly improved the look of the area.

Initially they were all smoking down the alleyway between us right outside my back gate and dumping all the fag butts everywhere. I went over and pointed that out and they agreed it wasn't on and told all staff that they needed to walk to the bottom of the alleyway which is about 60metres and smoke in the open space at the bottom. That worked for a bit until new staff started and it started getting darker and colder when they started just using the bin store instead.


 
Posted : 07/11/2021 6:04 pm
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Make your fence taller. Will stop the smoke.


 
Posted : 07/11/2021 6:09 pm
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So it's not a lane, but an alleyway?.

Okay then. 🙃


 
Posted : 07/11/2021 6:11 pm
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Throw some dog shit at them.


 
Posted : 07/11/2021 6:34 pm
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Clearly you need to shart in their tumble dryer.

Real answer is that there little you can do to stop folk legally smoking in their property which is, objectively, quite some distance from your property. Sorry.


 
Posted : 07/11/2021 6:34 pm
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went over and pointed that out and they agreed it wasn’t on and told all staff that they needed to walk to the bottom of the alleyway which is about 60metres and smoke in the open space at the bottom. That worked for a bit until new staff started and it started getting darker and colder when they started just using the bin store instead.

If I read this right, management told them to smoke elsewhere and now it’s cold the staff have decided they prefer the bin store?
If so, that an easy conversation with management. “Really appreciate you telling them last time where to smoke, would you mind giving them a reminder as they’re now smoking in the bin store”. Feel free to add in “and whilst I’m worried about the smell, I’m also worried about them setting the bins on fire”.

No guarantees of a positive response, but it’s worth a shot.


 
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Nothing to add but don’t you just love the word wafting, one of my favourites along with fettle.

Furtle is a favourite here.


 
Posted : 07/11/2021 7:29 pm
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I’d just close the window. And sleep soundly in the knowledge that you’re not interfering with what must be the highlight of a miserable shift doing all manner of unspeakable things for not very much money.


 
Posted : 07/11/2021 7:34 pm
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Just saw the photo.....

How many folk are smoking there at once.

Does this guy work at the care home
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Posted : 07/11/2021 7:46 pm
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Playing devil’s advocate: does you liking having the window open trump them liking to have a cigarette in their yard? You could close the window and get a fan.

🙄


 
Posted : 07/11/2021 7:49 pm
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I’m surprised that any care home allows smoking in uniform or on site.

I'd be more surprised if the manager of any care home would dare to dictate such terms to their staff right now! 😀

You could also sneak down with a padlock and lock the bin store gate when they are all in there. Don't do this at the same time as burning it down though.
Or what about bursting in naked straight from bed with a fire extinguisher shouting where's the fire and spraying them all.


 
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It’s okay, when I mentioned on here I didn’t like my neighbour’s second hand weed smoke blowing into my newborn baby’s room I was told I should just chill out, so what hope have you got with ordinary smoke in your own room?

A more serious answer is that it’s causing a nuisance which is affecting the use and enjoyment of your property. At its basest, it is a business which makes a profit - not the easiest way to make money and one in which no doubt all the staff work very hard for minimal pay in difficult conditions, particularly at the moment, but the fact remains it’s a commercial enterprise operating next to a residential premises.

If it is genuinely causing you issues (was this the place with the outdoor lighting too?j then write to the manager or the head office saying it’s causing a nuisance. If they don’t take steps to ameliorate it, then you might be able to bring a claim and possibly seek an injunction. Quite drastic steps, though.


 
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+1 for both lunge and jakester.
For immediate action, connect your garden hose (if you don't have one go to local DIY shed) to outside tap and use it to 'put out the fire' - several times a day, every day.
Talk to local council about whether this is a nuisance - in legal terms; I mean the smoking, not hosing the area.
Ask home manager or owners if they would want their elderly parents/relatives cared for by staff who smell of stale smoke with the same smell on their clothes until they bother to wash them.


 
Posted : 08/11/2021 12:37 am
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If you can’t beat ‘em….


 
Posted : 08/11/2021 1:03 am
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"Hi. Would you mind not smoking under my bedroom window please? Thanks."

The smokers probably have no notion that it's an issue to anyone else.


 
Posted : 08/11/2021 1:53 am
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A small investment (well, not small, but could be a cost effective solution) could produce a win here. Both stopping the smell, and smiles and waves each day

Find out how many smokers there are. Buy them some middle of he range e-Cigs, and some juice. Tell them it's how you family/friends can feed their habits whilst not having to suffer smelling like an ashtray and feeling ill health.


 
Posted : 08/11/2021 6:53 am
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“Hi. Would you mind not smoking 20 metres from my bedroom window please? Thanks.”

FTFY.


 
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