Top gear was indeed those 3. It's those 3 that made it so popular. Before those 3 it was a shit marginal small show.
Like it or not, to the majority of the worldwide audience, those 3 were top gear.
I get that. Popular is not necessarily good, it's just popular. Like One Direction are popular, or David Cameron. For me, I want to see a decent car program, not the same car programme recycled over and over year after year. Still, YMMV and all that.
pondo - Member
But they are the best three so far IMO (need to say 'IMO' otherwise the whole anal thing is going to blow out of proportion) ...
That's a nice switch from the whole "change the name" thing. Totally get that people don't want change, but TG was around for a long time before The Three turned up. Let's hope it's around for a long time after.
I have to switch to softer tone otherwise people's feeling get hurt and I need to apologise for hurting their feeling. Very fragile you know.
Yes, I don't want it to change coz I like it that way. If it ain't broken why fix it?
Changing the name to something else means I don't have to expect things that I like.
I don't expect it to last forever but as long as the three is able I don't thing I like to see others in their place.
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he transformed the Breakfast show
Seriously?! This is no way a dig, but aren't you sick of hearing the same old crap/jingles/features every week, delivered in the same fashion with added horn?!
Grimshaw is even worse.
Breakfast radio on R1 & 2 is just dire now - that's just my opinion, but I'd be surprised if I was the only person that thought that.
That's what fifth gear was for pondo. As for popularity, it's needed. You think that Cameron and one direction are not good but you're not necessarily right.
If he plays that ****ing eggs in the morning crap, I'll be very angry.
ninfan - MemberChewkw - I think I may have missed one...
Ya, I think they should have them. Really.
Then see the programme turns into some sort of cartoon show which will be funny.
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edit: Alternately what if JC takes over R2? That should be fun ...
I wonder if the new Top Gear will continue with the SIARPC segment?
Clarkson would make a good first guest.
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Breakfast radio on R1 & 2 is just dire now - that's just my opinion, but I'd be surprised if I was the only person that thought that.
yep, both are awful, cant listen to them.
That's what fifth gear was for pondo.
The what, now?
As for popularity, it's needed. You think that Cameron and one direction are not good but you're not necessarily right.
That may well be correct but equally I would say that something does not necessarily have quality because it is popular.
Chris Evens is the main reason why I now listen to Radio 3
Chris Evens is the main reason why I now listen to Radio 3
So he's done you a good turn too.
Whilst he is a proven property in the UK, it will be interesting to see how well he will go down with the international audience. Not a fan.
I like Chris Evans I just hope he gives up that lame one show to do it, it's bloody rubbish!!!
As for the other candidates,
Guy Martin - no, not a car man although I do like him
Jodie Kidd - no just no
Suzie Perry- yes a very good presenter
Jason Plato - yes a good choice
JK - yes a manic car nut
But why do they need to bring in any established presenters?, they could bring some new blood in
The Telegraph is reporting Evans has been offered the same fee offered to Hammond and May - £4.6m which works out around £255,000 an episode, or just short of double for each 1 hour episode what our Prime Minister gets paid for leading a whole country for a whole year. Lord Hall is crackers and has just advanced the case for the early demise of the license fee.
Lord Hall is crackers and has just advanced the case for the early demise of the license fee.
BBC having to compete in commercial, competitive, CAPITALIST market shocker. But that is entirely irrelevant anyway; Top Gear doesn't cost the licence fee payer a penny, in fact it pays for itself AND some pretentious documentaries on BBC4 about the sociopolitical wranglings of lesbian rope makers in eighteenth century Japan, or whatever.
Guy Martin - no, not a car man
You've obviously not seen his car then?
v8ninety - Member... in fact it pays for itself AND some pretentious documentaries on BBC4 about the sociopolitical wranglings of lesbian rope makers in eighteenth century Japan, or whatever.
Or they can do a documentary on the history of Lesbos island in Greece ... Lesbos the Island. 😛
But why do they need to bring in any established presenters?, they could bring some new blood in
Same as when they reinvented tog gear, one established lead and 2 new people, worked well. 3 newbies makes it look like work experience.
Hopefully Chris moles will get one of the other slots just to send you miserable ****ers into meltdown!
mikewsmith - Member
But why do they need to bring in any established presenters?, they could bring some new blood inSame as when they reinvented tog gear, one established lead and 2 new people, worked well. 3 newbies makes it look like work experience.
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Took 2 attempts to get right rememeber. Jason Dawe was briefly in, but didn't fit in with the others at all so was replaced by Hammond
Who was the fat bloke who was on before May, he got axed pretty smartish.
Danny Baker wrote a lot of the TFI stuff so I wonder if he will be on board.
just5minutes - Member
The Telegraph is reporting Evans has been offered the same fee offered to Hammond and May - £4.6m which works out around £255,000 an episode, or just short of double for each 1 hour episode what our Prime Minister gets paid for leading a whole country for a whole year. Lord Hall is crackers and has just advanced the case for the early demise of the license fee.
Please answer other posters points about TG, rubbish though it is, generating revenue for the beeb to actually behave like a public service in providing educational or 'niche' programming for people that is not profit-making but still worthwhile? I don't have to watch tg but i like the random stuff on bbc4 that would never get made if every individual programme had to be self-financing.
How is this different in principle from say an nhs foundation trust taking on extra profit making work in order to balance its books in other areas.
How different is the disparity in [s]salaries[/s] contracts for the three presenters than for other contractors to government departments who supposedly help our economy and are considered by civil service and government to be 'worth it' despite the eyewatering fees they are paid?
(Also your argument would be better if you compared them to a carreer that is not associated with old money, privilege and of course the doors that it opens long after you cease to be pm and draw your unobtanium-plated pension. Any fool knows the ministerial salary is the tip of the iceberg as far as what you do afterwards or indeed during your time in cabinet or as pm, and the real money is made aferwards. See blair and brown for recent examples of people whose disposable income now does not match their salary back then. Try comparing them to the chief exec of an nhs foundation trust, a top brass military officer or head of a local authority next time)
which works out around £255,000 an episode, or just short of double for each 1 hour episode what our Prime Minister gets paid for leading a whole country for a whole year
I agree the PM is over paid.
The rich getting richer ...
There are so many people in UK and the BBC have to choose this bloke.
Those at BBC are really bunch of jobworth a-hole zomebie maggots.
No wonder we are screwed.
Nope. I can happily not watch him as he has annoying voice and he is not funny.
Lol, think this is the biggest over reaction to a change of TV presenters I've ever read.
BBC having to compete in commercial, competitive, CAPITALIST market shocker. But that is entirely irrelevant anyway; Top Gear doesn't cost the licence fee payer a penny, in fact it pays for itself AND some pretentious documentaries on BBC4 about the sociopolitical wranglings of lesbian rope makers in eighteenth century Japan, or whatever.
Well said, sums up the entire 'I hate the BBC and I should be able to choose everything it airs because it costs me £12 a month' argument.
Its clearly more about the decision making process, and those that make the decisions, that should be drawn into question.
As is, it's on every slot of BBC News bulletins today. So thats either slick self promotion, which the BBC are becoming annoyingly good at, or other factions in the BBC are a little bit annoyed about the whole ComDrom.
£12 a month is worth it for every programme on BBC4, 1/2 of them on BBC2.
Pigface - Member
Who was the fat bloke who was on before May, he got axed pretty smartish.
Took 2 attempts to get right rememeber. Jason Dawe was briefly in, but didn't fit in with the others at all so was replaced by Hammond
Breakfast radio on R1 & 2 is just dire now - that's just my opinion, but I'd be surprised if I was the only person that thought that.
Nope. Same here.
Stopped watching TG series ago when it morphed into dumbed down teenage trash tv. Suspect the accountants at the Beeb will ensure it stays that way as income streams talk. I can live with that as I know where the buttons are for the other channels.
People earning more than me is annoying though. Wish I had more talent/work ethic/luck.
I'm personally only interested to see where Clarkson/May/Hammond go as it's them I am interested in not the BBC show. Top Gear was hopeless before.
Good for Chris Evans, after loosing his job for being a drunk he's come through that and this contract must be worth £10m over three years and he's not giving up his other show/job either
I quite enjoy the revamped post alcoholic Chris Evans. And he loves cars. Depends if he can stop it becoming the Chris Evans Car Show.
Just listened to CE talking about the TG 'story'. He originally ruled himself out as he's friends with the 3 others and didn't want to get used as a pawn in the politcal process that was going on. Once H & M ruled themselves out he was called again to discuss it (last Thursday).
Interstingly him and May are very good friends (just been on hols together) and they are meeting to chat about TG very soon. I'd be a happy bunny if May came back - he makes me laugh.
wont watch it, irritating g** t**
smug self serving asshat, guaranteed to have me reaching for the remote whatever the subject matter.
the most intolerable thing on the radio at work, makes the care home show with dull bruce seem interesting.
you could say im not a fan.
Good for Chris Evans, after loosing his job for being a drunk he's come through that
Good point, don't forget the Drugs escapade too.
Which some conveiniently forget.
Love or loathe Mr Evans, it can't be denied that he produces very popular and marketable material. He's very, very good at his job.
And as soon as people bring his hair colour into their argument, they've basically lost their argument and shown how their mind works. Take a good hard look at yourselves. It's a bit worrying that because it's not socially unacceptable to slag off ginger people so many people jump on that band wagon. Makes me wonder what they think but don't say out loud when a woman or heaven forbid, someone black gets given a decent job.
And yes I know that being ginger isn't a 'protected' minority, but it is a physical appearance dictated by genetic heritage. So I say it once more; [b]Take a good hard look at yourselves, please.[/b]
TG was stale and formulaic long before JC went off on one, so Chris Evans, who knows what he is talking about and has shown some signs of growing up, unlike JC, is a welcome change.
And I agree with [b]v8ninety[/b] - not a redhead myself, but my partner and her kids are, and I think it is absolutely pathetic when people use hair colour as a pejorative label.
Paul Merton and Kate Humble as co-presenters - now that would be worth watching!!
And yes I know that being ginger isn't a 'protected' minority, but it is a physical appearance dictated by genetic heritage.
Being ginger is a lifestyle choice.
sharkbait - MemberI'd be a happy bunny if May came back - he makes me laugh.
and (i think) he's really quite likeable when he's away from Clarkson.
[url= http://www.****/tvshowbiz/article-1352305/Chris-Evans-confesses-colouring-hair-red-went-white.html ] Chris Evans confesses to 'colouring' his hair red after it went white[/url]
[i]"He's always been proud of his fiery locks - and Chris Evans has confessed that he's dyed his hair back to its original red after it went almost white."[/i]
With the easy availability of contact lenses he doesn't have to wear glasses either.
Sometimes I think the ginger four-eyed git does it on purpose just to wind me up.
You're the wind up merchant, Ernie. Nice try.
and he's not giving up his other show/job either
How long before he's asking for Friday's off though 😈
Whilst Chris Evans is a petrolhead, it needs some sort of balance, as he's not a commentator as such.
Jason Plato might be a good choice as he's from "within" the industry so to speak.
Im all for giving Chris Evans a chance, the world changes and we either move with it or get left behind.
I enjoyed top gear before and I may enjoy it again in the future. I'll reserve judgement until I've watched the first new series completely. That should give everyone (associated with the program) a chance to settle in and find their way a bit.
Don't forget that Andy Wilman (the show's producer) has also left, so it will almost be starting from scratch. Not sure how many of the original writers and production team have remained.
Highest radio Audience by show
1. Radio 2 (Chris Evans) - 9.85m
2. Radio 4 (Today) - 7.1m
3. Radio 1 (Nick Grimshaw) - 6.2m
4. 5 live - 2.6m
5. Kiss UK - 1.78m[b]
Sometimes you just have to admit you might be in the minority.
MoreCashThanDash - Member
Depends if he can stop it becoming the Chris Evans Car Show.
I dunno, STW love a good "here's a review of my new bike" thread, so they'd probably be right into car ones too 😉
ernie_lynch - Member
And yes I know that being ginger isn't a 'protected' minority, but it is a physical appearance dictated by genetic heritage.
Being ginger is a lifestyle choice.
So is being gay, or heterosexual for that matter,(one can always abstain or change you hair color) but being short isn't and we're not a protected minority. #smallmansyndrome
Being [s]ginger[/s] a bigot is a lifestyle choice.
deepreddave - Member
And it's a good one. .
Rusty Roof - Damp Cellar
Indeed, that's a dachshund. Being short is unBritish.
Well at least he's not ginger.
Bring back Stefan Buczacki, Bill Sowerbuts and Fred Loads, the original three.
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I quite enjoy that Channel 4 programme with the Life on Mars dude, it's a bit samey, buy barn find car, do it up, auction it, but given a script he could play the Clarksonesque oaf as well as Clarkson himself.
[i].....the most intolerable thing on the radio at work, makes the care home show with dull bruce seem interesting.[/i]
Ken Bruce, dull? Surely not? He's the best DJ on the radio these days! 8)
(doesn't say much for the others mind!)
Can someone sum up the past 4 pages...
although let me guess some people hate Chris Evans, some people love him. Some people hate top gear, some love it.
Some people just like to argue 😆
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Some people just like to argue
No they don't!
I know it goes against the general feeling but I think it's a great choice. Very much in the same mould only more positive and without the hangups of old. Loved the TFi Friday and no reason this couldn't be as good.
To some extent I feel it's a shame they couldn't just slot May and Hammond back in there but I think they want a whole new thing. and if you've seen it, I think that's a hint as to who I'd like at least one of the presenters to be.
I do however know who I'd not like it to be.
Quentin Wilson
Suzie Perry
That Glenister fella
Jodie Kidd
Vicki Bulter Wotsit
Time for some new blood in the other roles (at least to TV) and at least one of them has got to be a bit handy behind the wheel.
Highest radio Audience by show
1. Radio 2 (Chris Evans) - 9.85m
2. Radio 4 (Today) - 7.1m
3. Radio 1 (Nick Grimshaw) - 6.2m
4. 5 live - 2.6m
5. Kiss UK - 1.78m[b]
Sometimes you just have to admit you might be in the minority.
Quite right.
Along with 55 million other UK residents, I don't listen to Chris Evans on the radio.
Those who do listen to him, should realise they are in the minority.
Interesting to hear that Evans will both present and produce the show.
As for a female presenter I'd like to see Susie Wolfe give it a bash. She is always knowledgeable and enthusiastic during her stints on Sky F1 and unlike 'the other' Suzi she seems to have something more to offer than the occasional thigh flash...
Those who do listen to him, should realise they are in the minority.
Either way he's the most successful radio presenter out there, no one else comes close.
Either way he's the most successful radio presenter out there, no one else comes close.
Well Wogan had 8.1 million which would put him in second place.
We'll see what the viewing figure for TG are mid series. Unless he improves previous figures and the BBC maintains sales of TG abroad, it'll be considered a failure.
Interesting to hear that Evans will both present and produce the show.
That's where the money is, have your production company produce the series and sell it to the BBC for 10s of million, rather than agree a salary which the BBC gets beaten up over by the gutter press as being a waste of public money etc.
Has CE / BBC said what will happen to the Breakfast Show?
All this talk of Evans not going down as well as Clarkson overseas. Isn't it just the format that is used overseas that makes the bbc loads of money, rather than broadcasting the same show. In the us, aus and France they definitely have their own version of the 3 idiots. It defiantly wasn't jc dubbed into french that I saw whilst on holiday.
I want to see Sabine Schmitz in the lineup. She's bonkers.
Is Evans known abroad?
Is Evans known abroad?
Doesn't really matter that much, Top Gear is the brand and if he does a good job, it will still sell well overseas.
Has CE / BBC said what will happen to the Breakfast Show?
BAU.
karlsbug - Member
I want to see Sabine Schmitz in the lineup. She's bonkers.
Good call, but expect the "other two" will be underlings with no personality, afterall you wouldn't want to show Chris up would you.
So I'm going for the "other two" as:
Pepe' le Peau
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Deputy Daug
Am I the only person who thinks that there is a lot of angry petrol-heads on this thread, which is quite ironic for a MTB forum?
It's just semi-factual light entertainment, get a grip
Am I the only person who thinks that there is a lot of angry petrol-heads on this thread, which is quite ironic for a MTB forum?
Nope, I find it quite odd. A lot of people with issues letting it all boil over at Chris Evans...
Am I the only person who thinks that there is a lot of angry petrol-heads on this thread, which is quite ironic for a MTB forum?
Being a MTB doesn't mean you can't be a petrolhead.
It's just semi-factual light entertainment, get a grip
Exactly.
lots of cyclists are petrol heads
Sean Kelly, being interviewed after the ’84 Amstel Gold Race, spots his wife leaning against his Citroën AX. He interrupts the interview to tell her to get off the paintwork, to which she shrugs, “In your life the car comes first, then the bike, then me.” Instinctively, he snaps back, “You got the order wrong. The bike comes first.”
It's the anger that I find really weird.
I like cars but not enough to argue about them
cris evans on r4 now
h well in a bit apparently






