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What an utter tool this player is.
You have only just realised? Lets hope he is cited and banned
Should be a few citings from that
He is one of the biggest tits(one of many on the current England team) Needs to grow up and learn how to act like a man. Typical story, has a few ok games and then thinks he is a superstar! Or go back to league where this sort of behavior seems to be tolerated.
He is turning into a right arse.
Not on fighting right next to the spectators IMO - pile in by all means, but not there. That ball boy stuck there with fists flying about.
Agree about Ashton.
Will the next England coach be able to sort these guys out? They will cost England a game at some point with giving away penalties and yellow and red card.
There was an England prop who ended his career after disciplinary issues a couple of decades ago -needs more of that IMO
I looked at the title and wondered how long it would be before someone mentioned that this was because he's ex-rl
oh look
Or go back to league where this sort of behavior seems to be tolerated.
grow up ffs. bad behaviour is inexcusable in any aspect of life, never mind just sport, and particularly not in one discipline compared to another.
Yellow cards at best, nobody got hurt. Did feel sorry for the ball boy though.
I think the ref was laying down a marker early Tigers and Saints really dont like each other do they 😀
pulling a man into touch by his hair is worth more than a yellow I reckon, and seeing as how two got sent off the ref doesnt agree with you!!
Does anyone like Leicester?
Cheating bastards.
and this is how you score a try Chris
Ashton didn't get any cards! Also reading a couple of match reports and listening to the commentators, not many agree with the ref!
Ashton is a cock though I wouldn't pull Tuillagi's hair without expecting a good hiding for doing so!
I wouldn't want to see this impact on either teams European games with any suspensions.
Why are Leicester cheats Darcy? I have heard this banded about before without anything to back it up.
grow up ffs. bad behaviour is inexcusable in any aspect of life, never mind just sport, and particularly not in one discipline compared to another.
I didn't actually blame his behaviour on his ex-league history. I was simply stating that perhaps this sort of behaviour seems to be tolerated or even encouraged in this country and Australia. Just read the headlines over the years of league players who seem to get themselves into trouble with drink,drugs,gambling, spousal abuse etc etc.
Why are Leicester cheats Darcy? I have heard this banded about before without anything to back it up.
Ask Neil Back. Filthy cheating bastard.
Me? Bitter? Nah. 🙂
Oh I won't miss Shane "The Chav" Williams' silly diving tries either.
Ah DD, if stringer was such a muppet to give him the chance, what flanker wouldn't have done so? Munster didn't look like winning that game for a minute of the match, if they were a better team, they stil would have won.
any excuse to slag off an England player eh?
Chris Ashton can be a good player, only he continues to do stupid things. If he could calm it down, he could be an all time great finisher. As it stands, he'll soon be a marked man, and not due to his playing ability
any excuse to slag off an England player eh?
Why not? Good fun innit?
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transapp, still doesnt excuse the behaviour. You're about to be pushed over your own line in the dying minutes and you do that? And then have the barefaced cheek to deny it post-match? Never mind, we did the dirty cheating bastards over the year after in their dump of a stadium and have gone into bigger and better things while they have declined into the mediocrity that befits them. Dirty. Cheating. Bastards.
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Leicester don't cheat any worse than Munster.
Oh look - they've both won loads of things over the years. 😮
Darcy that made me laugh!, I remember last season Neil Back saying Leicester are cheats after Leeds got beat by them. I thought that was a bit rich as he used to be the player who used to be accused of erm 'gamesmanship' the most!
sorry but that's bollocks, league is no better nor worse then union for bad behaviour. are you telling me no one ever got a shoeing in union "cos he shouldn't have been in the ruck"?
ashton should have been sent for that, same in either code, and the two who were sent off should have been sinbinned
Leicester are a bunch of cheats - it appears to be done systematically. IMO a disgrace to the game. I dislike the way they play, Ihage the way they cheat.
From sneaking yards forward at kicks to sneaky punches and knee drops to holding and blocking.
I have watched a good few English games this season and it stands out how much Leicester cheat
Anyway, we're straying...
Ashton? Never liked him. Probably never will. Don't think it's anything to do with his league background. Then again, with silly hair like that (Tuilagi), you almost deserve to have it pulled. 🙂
Who's your team Darcy?
TJ, The accusation that Tigers cheat more than other teams is ridiculous. All coaches are trying to get their teams to play on the limits of the laws but without conceding penalties. It's just that Leicester have the most success at it! lol
Oxboy, Munster. Not bitter. Honest. 🙂
Oxboy - I don't agree. Some teams are much more sporting that others, some cheat more than others. Its tolerated or even applauded more in the English league I think. One of the reasons why English teams don't do so well in the heineken cup and why the English national side tend to have a high penalty count.
so you admit Leicester are successful at cheating?
TJ, utter, utter shite.
http://www.premiershiprugby.com/premiership/stats/team_yellow_cards.php
Have a look and you'll see you're spouting rubbish.
And i already know that you'll come back with 'well they get away with more' which is also crap.
I think the Heiniken cup results have a LOT more to do with salary caps in the primierships plus the demands on the players that simply are not matched in any other country.
Transapp - I am surprised at that
Its just an opinion and a lot of stuff goes unpunished but I have seen them play a couple of times this season and that remains my opinion. they play a deliberately cheating game. Its apart of how they set out to play.
I can't see how to get penalties conceeded out of that those stats - that might be interesting
plus the demands on the players that simply are not matched in any other country.
What rot the top 14 is far tougher, its just not hyped by Sky like the aviva.
surely a table of yellow cards doesn't help when sorting out cheats. Cheats are those that break laws and don't get caught.
I would have thought the yellow card table a decent piece of data on cheating
New Zealand and Ritchie McCaw? I wouldn't exactly call it blatant cheating(Mrs Curtis is sitting next to me) but they are masters at playing the game to the limits. Nothing wrong with that IMO.
I'm not sure the Primership teams cheat more per sae but they certainly play a slower grinding game as a rule compared to say the Top 14 teams or whatever the cider league is called these days. All teams cheat just some teams cheat in different ways. The Aussies for instance drive me mental with their players in front of the ball carriers.
I think cheating spoils the game and I don't like to see it. the sly tugs on the shirt, the blocking the kicking away of the ball and so on.
Quins fan here.
I respectfully decline to discuss cheating.
Ashton: He's still young, he's got talent but he still needs to grow up. He has the ability to be a rugby great. Hopefully with age will come maturity. Either way, if he continues like that he'll get his comeuppance. There's plenty of big, nasty players out there that'll sort him out when he finds himself stuck in a ruck/maul.
Top 14 = no salary cap. You can get a squad that'll compete on all fronts and not worry that if you go balls out at one competition, you'll be relegated as you have the squad to compete. Not as much money in the Magners, however no relegation so second string teams often out until the European cup comes around.
Richie McCaw, now that is a guy I'm astonished doesn't get pinged more often. That's where I know I'm not seeing the game the same way a pro / ref is.
Or go back to league where this sort of behavior seems to be tolerated.
He isn't good enough to play league, that is why he plays union
Superb! debate about Tigers cheating? Just as I am reading this Sky show you Murphy taking out the Saints cover off the ball in build up to winning try ....So Tigers cheat and the Irish cheat.Solution? Nuke both Midlands and Ireland from space; Only way to clean up the game.
Tigers fan here and was at the game yesterday, couldn't see what happened directly as was in the Caterpillar stand. We were as sat next to some Saints fans who we had a great laugh with.
Jeremy and Darcy, I think your comments are a bit harsh but I suppose successful teams like Leicester, Saracens & Saints always seems to bring out the petty immature and jealous behaviour of certain people, thankfully though most rugby fans don't seem to have this negative trait that you two have.
Jeremy and Darcy, I think your comments are a bit harsh but I suppose successful teams like Leicester, Saracens & Saints always seems to bring out the petty immature and jealous behaviour of certain people, thankfully though most rugby fans don't seem to have this negative trait that you two have.
Oooh, get you girlfriend! (actually if you'd followed what I was saying closely, then...actually, nah, can't be bothered.)
As a Munster fan, I have always felt devoid of success. But thanks for your best effort - try harder. 🙂
the Irish cheat
Apparently, only when they play Scotland. A level 3 referee told me that you know...no less. 😉
Only way to clean up the game.
If they nuked anything north of the border, very few in the game would notice. 😛
If they nuked anything north of the border, very few in the game would notice.
Apart from the Premiership teams that would have more HC points....
Frankers - Member
Tigers fan here and was at the game yesterday, [b]couldn't see what happened directly as was in the Caterpillar stand.[/b] We were as sat next to some Saints fans who we had a great laugh with.Jeremy and Darcy, I think your comments are a bit harsh but I suppose successful teams like Leicester, Saracens & Saints always seems to bring out the petty immature and jealous behaviour of certain people, thankfully though most rugby fans don't seem to have this negative trait that you two have.
I like the bit that I highlighted,says it all really.
BTW You do know Darcy is a Munster Man? Why would he be envious of any of the teams that you mention? 🙄
Just to clear up, I can never mention Leicester without calling them cheating bastards. That's as much a poke at my own bitterness at getting done so stupidly in that final as anything else (let's call it the Limerick Caveat) 🙂 I can look back and laugh now.
It was TeeJ that picked up that particular ball and ran with it (the cheating bit).
BTW You do know Darcy is a Munster Man?
Nope didn't know he was a Munster fan, and only typed the jealous bit as was just looking to provoke a bit of banter.. 😉
Our local Catholic priest is a Munster fan and I have similar regular discussions with him also
[url= http://www1.skysports.com/rugby-union/news/12544/7354905/Saint-Ashton-cited ]Aston cited[/url] But it looks look Lawes and Murphy get away with it
Far too much Gamesmanship in the game. Hate the blocking and interference plays.
Seems much more prevalent now than even 15 years ago. Yeah we got a shoeing in a ruck (for being on the wrong side) but everyone seemed to follow the spirit and the word of the law much more.
And i played in the Scottish Borders not known for its sympathetic play.
Hes a proper cock of hensonesque proportions! ;0)
Tuilagi and Saints flanker Tom Wood were both sent off for punching. A disciplinary hearing on Tuesday night deemed their red cards to be sufficient punishmentCiting commissioner Mike Rafter issued level one citings - the equivalent of a yellow card - to Leicester duo Geordan Murphy and Horacio Agulla and Northampton lock Courtney Lawes for their roles in the mass brawl.
The players were not required to appear before the disciplinary panel and can continue playing.
I didn't actually blame his behaviour on his ex-league history. I was simply stating that perhaps this sort of behaviour seems to be tolerated or even encouraged in this country and Australia. Just read the headlines over the years of league players who seem to get themselves into trouble with drink,drugs,gambling, spousal abuse etc etc.
I can't think of any other example in sport where this has happened to such a sucsessful and popular coach.
It was TeeJ that picked up that particular ball and ran with it (the cheating bit).
Yes but to be fair to TJ I fed him that hospital ball. Was I cheating in the ruck? Maybe, I am a Leicester man!
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We saw Coutney Lawes, Ben Foden & Steven Myler in the chippie opposite the ground after the match on Saturday. CL has a real air of arrogance but BF was a top bloke.
Bad sportsmanship and/or cheating goes on in many teams English or not, I don't have any axe to grind against any particular team but there are certain players that I think are dirty, Courtney Lawes is definitely one of them.
Part of the problem was the situation in last years game with Manu & Ashton, maybe it would have been a good idea that Wayne Barnes didn't ref this match, as he was to eager to send any players off.... and in my opinion the wrong players.
TandemJeremy - Member
I think cheating spoils the game and I don't like to see it. the sly tugs on the shirt, the blocking the kicking away of the ball and so on.POSTED 2 DAYS AGO # REPORT-POST
Bog off, I played in the championship BECAUSE I could cheat.And for the record, doing any of the above,which I did, NEVER spoilt my enjoyment 😀