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Not got a link, it was in the 50s tho a long time ago. The carb group gained weight despite being on 1500 calories a day.
there is a small but measureable improvement, but mostly it's not that critical for most people
The difference between eating and not eating (not specifically sports drinks) on a 5 hour ride is significant in most people!
So.. case study. I'm hungry but I am dealing with it. I've had slow carb food all day, done pretty well. I'm going out to eat with a mate tonight but he's a fitness freak so he'll understand strange dietary requirements. I can proabably find something idavey in London, but unless I can get a ton of beans I'll probably still be hungry after eating. Maybe even if I do get a ton of beans. Then I'll stay hungry all night and tomorrow I reckon the carb demons will be knocking on the door and I will be training tomorrow night...
I'm thinking a choccy bar might work for me here.
I thought that test had been repeated more recently.
[i]The difference between eating and not eating (not specifically sports drinks) on a 5 hour ride is significant in most people![/i]
Yes, I didn't really mean that.
Do you think, and I've phrased this as a question to avoid me sounding like a nutter, that it's possible to train your self to perform with what you might consider sub-optimal nutrition?
I mean the idea that we need X amount of water and X amount of glucose in each hour of exercise is all well and good and provable in the lab, but by always striving to be perfectly hydrated and glucosed and protein recovery-drinked, are we missing out on developing the ability to perform in less than ideal conditions?
The eason I ask is because I've seen people do the 'I need 3 litres of water for a 3 hour ride' thing, yet I'm perfectly happy to take far less, and with gels and stuff, yes they are great, but I can do without far more than others it would seem.
See, that puts me off iDave too; the beans. Just no way. On a normal fairly low fibre diet I can poo three times a day. Add in any form of leguminous veg and I'd have to start working from home, from a small room.
Do you think, and I've phrased this as a question to avoid me sounding like a nutter, that it's possible to train your self to perform with what you might consider sub-optimal nutrition?
Well it's absolutely possible to change how easily your body uses different metabolic pathways - your body adapts, so if you don't have much carbs available it gets better at burning fat.
However we all have a pre-determined tendency to burn more fat or more carbs based on how much fast or slow twitch muscle fibres we tend to.
I bet the people who ride for hours with just a banana are likely to be skinny, older, and steady but strong riders. I bet the ones that like to guzzle gels are bigger (either fat or muscle) and like to blast up and down hills and take rests.
Sprint vs enduro atheltes; fast vs slow twitch.
Your body can only process half a pint of water at a time in a given period, the rest passes straight through, or so I heard.
[i]So.. case study. I'm hungry but I am dealing with it. I've had slow carb food all day, done pretty well. I'm going out to eat with a mate tonight but he's a fitness freak so he'll understand strange dietary requirements. I can proabably find something idavey in London, but unless I can get a ton of beans I'll probably still be hungry after eating. Maybe even if I do get a ton of beans. Then I'll stay hungry all night and tomorrow I reckon the carb demons will be knocking on the door and I will be training tomorrow night...[/i]
See.... this bit sounds very much like one of my work colleagues on a diet...
I would say, from my point of view, that this is not a sustainable way of living because you're not oblivious to it; it's in your face all the time and is making you feel uncomfortable and is causing you concern about how you will train as an addition.
Whereas I had a massive meal in a pub the other day, then didn't eat for over 24 hours because I wasn't hungry. I've had breakfast today, done 2 hours gently on my bike and will eat again before bed, probably just a sandwich.
My experience eom the idave diet is that I am not particularly hungry except just before my evening meal when I am tempted to eat anything i can get my hands on whilst cooking. If I am riding then I ea something sugary before I leave and take something with me if it will be more than an hour or so, otherwise just water. I normally eat when I get back beause it is a meal time anyway.
For me these days idave is no sugar, no grain, no hunger, no problem and no weight loss. Kind of ballanced really 🙂
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I would say, from my point of view, that this is not a sustainable way of living
I do not miss the starch at mealtimes at all. It's pretty easy. I miss lattes but I can handle that mostly. I miss sweet snacks, and I have them from time to time.
As for sustainable - it doesn't really need to be. I'm perfectly fine and healthy without this. I must stress that this is about working towards a racing snake weight to allow me to win MTB races, NOT a fundamental health issue.
It must be water...Fat is 10 calories per gram, so 3 KG of fat equates to 30,000 calories. I doubt you ate that much in 3 days - That's Partridge Toblerone blowout territory.
Now I'd say that's not a very healthy [i]relationship with food[/i] either and is more likely to lead to your body storing fat when you do eat as it doesn't know when it is going to get fuelled again.Whereas I had a massive meal in a pub the other day, then didn't eat for over 24 hours because I wasn't hungry. I've had breakfast today, done 2 hours gently on my bike and will eat again before bed, probably just a sandwich.