[Closed] Census Police

Why haven't you done it?

She is still there.

Just give her £1000 and tell her to go away

me too apparently as I failed to express the nationality of my young children [5 and 6]
They know where they were born and where they live [England] but they know that I am Scottish and so is half their family. they did not really get the question tbh as it was touch too abstract for them. The youngest saod he wanted me to say pirate for his nationality

I've just been round to find out why someone hasn't filled in their census. They sort of grunted and shut the door in my face. I know he's still in there.

On a Sunday! Can't you tell them you've already posted it? Are they traceable through the post?

On a Sunday! Can't you tell them you've already posted it? Are they traceable through the post?

They can shoot you if they so much as suspect you of lying. I wouldn't blame them.

At the end of the day they've got to get the population to match up with the number of returns.

We've had them too

we posted ours back a week or so ago, if they've lost it, it's their problem not mine

I went back after five minutes or so and told her it had been posted. She appeared happy with this.

I didn't fill it out because I don't believe in giving all my details to a group of people who haven't been vetted to go through it. I don't see why my income, religious beliefs, nationality or anything else is anybody elses business but mine.
I have a UK passport, they can check up on that for most of my details, my driving license as well.

I also don't fancy supporting a company is linked to the CIA, but that is just the tin-foil-hat side of me.

This census is far less probing than the last (or maybe I don't care amymore).

Quirrel, how about the other side of the census, your council is funded on the back of it, you don't return it you don't exist and your council will receive less money from central government.

Quirrel, how about the other side of the census, your council is funded on the back of it

Why does my council need to know my salary, religion and country of origin?

Surely having me down paying council tax, is enough to say that I live here, I do afterall have to show all who live in the house on the councli tax payments

Why does my council need to know my salary, religion and country of origin?

Why do you care..?

I don't see why my income, religious beliefs, nationality or anything else is anybody elses business but mine.

I have a UK passport, they can check up on that for most of my details, my driving license as well.

Clearly a different census to mine as there is no mention of salary. Stop trying to be awkward and read it instead. If you are that bad, the CIA will take you out anyway.

As for the CIA issue, if you are a trouble maker they probably know who you are anyway. you do realise that the UK security services do talk to their US counterparts? That GCHQ employs US staff of three year placements, etc.

Didn't know what to say to them so grunted ......

I think the idea is that they help people with learning difficulties. Which might explain why she waited......maybe she thought you had gone to get your form ? Or maybe your carer ?

Just had the woman ring my bell! She's told me I'll get a thousand pound fine if I don't return it.

Not against it, just can't be arsed filling it out, is all. Spose I should do it and just be done with it really, it's not that big a deal.

They must be out in force today, just had a very old man in a bright red cap banging on the front door. Told him I'd posted it a few days ago and he wandered off chuntering.

Done it only took 5 mins now where's that woman oh she's gone. 🙁

What happens if you post it, and some postie [s]nicks[/s]/mis directs it, how do you prove theyve not had it as well.

Then theres the question of Royal fail not actually delivering one.

Do it on line, easier than filling out the form, you don't have to go to the post box and Royal mail can't lose it (although the internets may of course eat it).

What happens if you post it, and some postie nicks/mis directs it

Good point. I believe there is a thriving market in completed census forms ....... lazy buggers everywhere are prepared to pay good money for stolen completed census forms.

The posties must be raking it in.

There's a bunch of scammers going round too, offering to 'take your form in for you' and help you fill it out and such. My mum's had them at the door twice now (and told them to get knotted, fortunately).

Why would anyone want to do that? 😕

Do it online FFS!

If you really don't want to fill in the form, and you get the census police round, just tell them you were not living in that property on the date it needed to be filled in. Ie you have only just moved in, and have only just moved back to the UK

I take it you haven't read the form then? because IIRC it doesn't ask about income and the religious beliefs question was optional.

that's exactly what I was thinking.

It strikes me that the people not wanting to fill it in either (a) haven't actually read it (b) are lazy sods or (c) are being awkward just for the sake of it.

The only potentially contentious issue is of "nationality". I put "British" because, well, that's what I am. England, Wales, Scotland & Northern Ireland are separate "provinces" or "regions" of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, or at least that's what it says on my passport. It doesn't say England on it. Nor does it say "Yorkshire" but that wasn't an option on the census

Quirrel - Member

Why does my council need to know my salary, religion and country of origin?

I should like to take this opportunity to say,

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and before any pedants get active, my passport says "united kindom of..." and doesn't actually say that the four largest constituent parts are merely regions or provinces...

although perhaps it [i]should[/i] 😉

My missus filled ours out, i only had to post it.

Why would anyone want to do that?

You're elderly and can't read it? We'll help. Name? Age? Date of birth? Bank account number?

Read this: [url= http://www.oldholborn.net/2011/03/knock-at-door.html ]how to deal with a census compliance officer[/url]

if you didn't fill it in and think this makes you big and clever

GROW UP

Tescos knows more about you and the CIA couldn't give a ****

ps44 - Member

Read this: how to deal with a census compliance officer

Had a look at that, very funny.

They are most surely wearing tin foil hats, sitting in a darkened room with tin foil over the windows.

CBA expecting a visit soon.

Filled it in online, took about 5 minutes and you get a receipt number to say you completed it.

Some people who won't fill it in just want to be arse's for the sake of it

TBH,

I've no problems with filling it in. I did it online, took no time, and I don't need a tinfoil hat to protect me from Them.

However, if some cleverbollocks comes knocking on my door, wasting my time, to chase up a form that I've already filled in, I'm likely to have sense of humour failure.

It's not hard to cross-reference "addresses" with "forms completed" for a start, so we're looking at harassment and possibly trespass(?), but moreover I don't think it's a particularly smart idea to be going door-to-door reassuring people that it's ok to give out personal information to people who come knocking on the door asking for it.

Fight the power. Or download Rage against the machine. Or don't fill a census form in.

All equally impotent ways of sticking it to the man.

(Oh, and Project....get over yourself - it's getting very tired.)

half arsed anarchists 'ooh i'm not filling in this form it's infringing my civil liberties!!' Make a real stand and stop paying your council tax or road tax!! Just fill it in you muppets!

Don't fill it in! evil things will happen....... to the shape of £1000 fine ??? why would you not want to do it, it's only a blinking form. I give out more details to the average cold caller who needs it for research purposes 😀

Whats Roadtax RaveyDavey?

Don't fill it in! evil things will happen....... to the shape of £1000 fine ???

Do you know how many people were fined for not filling in the last census?
The answer is exactly zero.

Yeah but the Tories are in now.

I suppose technically it would be a nightmare to pin down why 'they' didn't do it, could be a million reasons for needing support and not asking for it. But they do put it out there as an 'incentive'.

Well they seem to making a fine mess of the country, so no doubt they could make a complete arse of fining folk for not completing the census.

ummm, are they not trying to fix the magnitude of balls ups made by labour? They haven't been in long enough to do any damage. Jump off your soap box, there's a good boy 😀

Weren't Labour trying to rectify the thatcher years? Because those were great times weren't they?

Don't fill it in! evil things will happen....... to the shape of £1000 fine ??? why would you not want to do it, it's only a blinking form. I give out more details to the average cold caller who needs it for research purposes

Part of the reason not to fill it in. A compulsory form that will cost be 1000 to not fill in. Doesn't seem right to me.
Shows that the only tactic they hace is strong arming the population into completing them.

They can never prove it's not in the post.

I just read that there is a freepost address for the form. I might wrap up some paving slabs and post them as well.

Quirrel's going to bring the country to its knees, single-handedly.

ummm, are they not trying to fix the magnitude of balls ups made by labour?

Bankers

Just think how crap your rellies are gonna feel in 100 years time when they can't find old Uncle Quirrel to complete the family tree! 😆

Quirrel's going to bring the country to its knees, single-handedly.

OR at least stop MP's expenses being spent on patios.

Quirrel's going to bring the country to its knees, single-handedly.

Not if he comes out with stuff like this : [i]"They can never prove it's not in the post"[/i].

I think taking a moral stand which challenges the legitimacy of the government, requires something a tad more rebellious than "honest guv, I put it in the post"

It will be an interesting exercise. How many times wil they call around.

How many really go missing in the post compared to the number of households.

You should apply for some part time work at the sorting office Quirrel. Imagine the havoc you could wreak!!

It will be an interesting exercise. How many times wil they call around.

I'm on the edge of my seat in anticipation.

Let us know won't you ?

Quirrel will be giving the treasury an extra £1000, i suppose every little helps bring the deficite down.

you are right ernie this civil disobediance is extremely exciting stuff.

You should apply for some part time work at the sorting office Quirrel. Imagine the havoc you could wreak!!

From what I have read from my various tinfoilhat websites, nobody is vetted at the offices.

I don;t want to wreck havoc. I just object to being made to complete a form with the threat of 1000 pound fine. If they had asked me to do it, I would probably hade done it, but threatening the fine just makes me not want to do it.

I know what you mean Quirrel. Normally I wouldn't speed that much, but since they started imposing fines for speeding, I've taken to doing 45mph in built up areas as a matter of civic principle.

I just object to being made to complete a form with the threat of 1000 pound fine. If they had asked me to do it, I would probably hade done it, but threatening the fine just makes me not want to do it.

Well, there's a £5000.00 fine for outraging public decency.
Does this make you want to wave your knob around in Morrisons?

Mostly, I just do that for fun.

all that fuss over such a small thing eh cougar

Hey now.

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Hey now.

Frank Kingsley. Legend.

It's not hard to cross-reference "addresses" with "forms completed" for a start, so we're looking at harassment and possibly trespass(?)

"I know my rights!!!" 😆

It takes like 5 minutes to complete via the Internet, stop being a lazy awkward ass :p