what level of education do you have and what job do you do? these are the things that dictate your class mainly. You may have working class roots but if you have a university eduction and / or a white collar job you have become middle class
i have both of those but i still class myself as working class....maybe i'm in denial
EDIT: i just did a recount of that original list and my score is 5 which makes me very middle class...its getting worse!!
i'm going home to throw the matching coasters away
Suggesting we're either upper class or working class is simplistic and unhelpful.
As others have said there are people who are are not defined by these two types - what are you if you don't work and survive on benefits? Underclass I say.
Then there are people who don't need to work - maybe they do to support the life style they want but they could move to a less expensive location and not work perhaps. Perhaps we should talk about the professional class as being the middle class - or perhaps upper middle class? So fully qualified doctors, accountants and lawyers for sure, some IT types too. There is a fundamental difference between people in these 4 groups so useful to say they are in different classes as they behave in different ways and want different things.
Language is considered an easier way of deciding class as wealth is not the point at all. Maybe I'm more aware of this having been brought up to use words that aren't used by many around me - so do you eat pudding or dessert? Use a loo or a toilet? Table manners is another - do you use a knife to cut your bread roll or break it with your hands?
Matching coasters are a bridge collection ( 😉 ) - is that a double whammy? Spent the whole weekend playing bridge too - weather too bad for riding, so thats even worse. I was the youngest by about 20 years!!
Surely that's just the working class who can't afford carpets? One wouldn't dream of having bare floors, but then one also wouldn't wish to be considered so lowly as middle class.
ah yes, well, that's where the circle comes back around. I refer the honourable gentleman to Orwell's Road To Wigan Pier, chapter 6:
https://ebooks.adelaide.edu.au/o/orwell/george/o79r/chapter6.html
The miner’s family spend only tenpence a week on green vegetables and tenpence half-penny on milk.....
The basis of their diet, therefore, is white bread and margarine, corned beef, sugared tea, and potatoes — an appalling diet. Would it not be better if they spent more money on wholesome things like oranges and wholemeal bread or if they even, like the writer of the letter to the New Statesman, saved on fuel and ate their carrots raw?
Yes, it would, but the point is that no ordinary human being is ever going to do such a thing. The ordinary human being would sooner starve than live on brown bread and raw carrots. And the peculiar evil is this, that the less money you have, the less inclined you feel to spend it on wholesome food. A millionaire may enjoy breakfasting off orange juice and Ryvita biscuits; an unemployed man doesn’t.
See also: walking holidays, old VW campers that can't go 5 miles without conking out, &c.
😉
Surprised to see "Hot tub" on that list. Isn't that a bit chav?
And barbeque is something you do, not something you own.
what level of education do you have and what job do you do? these are the things that dictate your class mainly. You may have working class roots but if you have a university eduction and / or a white collar job you have become middle class
My thought too. My background is working class but I've never had to graft a mile underground like my dad did. I'm pretty sure I'm middle class, but we always put our own meanings on these things. For me, it just means I don't have to graft hard for not much pay.
Surprised to see "Hot tub" on that list. Isn't that a bit chav?And barbeque is something you do, not something you own.
Very true, but the writer is obviously writing above his/her station!! Hence the list.
the middle class strive to prove they're better than the rest of the working class
Ah!
Those guys are just bawbags. They're not worth knowing anyway.
We've got a murial on the [s]parlour[/s] dining room wall.
found 3 spiralizers in the kitchen drawer last night....[b]3[/b]!!! 😯
These spiralizers then. Just looked them up on google and all the pictures show them being used for courgettes, which looks a bit boring. Can they be used for anything else? Like squash, or parsnips?
A smeg fridge is a device for refrigerating smeg. A Smeg fridge, is a refrigerator made by the German firm Smeg.
Lol 🙂
Does grammar pedantry get you a bye to the middle class?
These spiralizers then. Just looked them up on google and all the pictures show them being used for courgettes, which looks a bit boring. Can they be used for anything else? Like squash, or parsnips?
the ones we have are all the same. we got given them at some kitchen knife demo in a John Lewis store. theyre very basic...essentially a round clamp and pin that goes in the end of the fruit/vegetable and an angled blade with a hole at the end. you simply put your finger in the hole and turn the blade and it cuts into whatever its attached to in a spiral. i think we've only ever used it once.
Working class by culture, very middle class by current demographic definitions (not that list - only have 4 of those random things, and of those am not counting the vinyl as all bar the last 6 months they're from pre-CD times).
A smeg fridge is a device for refrigerating smeg. A Smeg fridge, is a refrigerator made by the German firm Smeg.
When being a pedant, it is best to be accurate: Smeg are Italian.
You can use a julienne peeler as an alternative to a spiralizer. Works fine on carrots and courgettes
A smeg fridge is a device for refrigerating smeg. A Smeg fridge, is a refrigerator made by the German firm Smeg.
When being a pedant, it is best to be accurate: Smeg are Italian.
I ain't posh enuf ta know 'bout posh fridges, innit.
The comma was wrong too.
