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Following on from the gym topic, WRT 'mixed' changing.

I sometimes see fathers taking young daughters into the gents to use the facilities. Presumably mothers take boys into the ladies too. Where do we stand on this?

In the absence of dedicated parent & child facilities, I think I'd be more comfortable with a mother taking a young son in the gents, rather than me having to use a urinal with small girls wandering curiously about. Seems more appropriate from a toilet-training perspective too.

What do other readers think?


 
Posted : 27/01/2012 2:46 pm
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You can tell you've not got kids. Once you do, any distinction between male and female toilet facilities you previously held, soon evaporates.

As well as most other aspects of your behavior that generally tend to constitute 'dignity'


 
Posted : 27/01/2012 2:49 pm
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I don't care, I'd be fine with mixed everything.


 
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[i]What do other readers think? [/i]

I think when I used to take my daughter out on my own I'd rather have taken her in the gents with me than me go in the ladies with her.

she did try and wash her hands in a urinal the first time I took her in a gents after she could walk.

If we were out as a family then I took boy in gents and wife took daughter in ladies.

Once she was able to sort herself out (6 or 7 - old enough to be 'trusted' anyway) I let her go in the ladies on her own and waited outside.


 
Posted : 27/01/2012 2:50 pm
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what binners said


 
Posted : 27/01/2012 2:50 pm
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I have sons but basically what Binners said...nothing quite like th experience of letting your child have a poo in a rain grid at the side of the road ...I wish I was joking


 
Posted : 27/01/2012 2:52 pm
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Excellently put Binners. I fully endorse that!


 
Posted : 27/01/2012 2:53 pm
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we had one of these for a few years with our youngest, proved very useful;

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Posted : 27/01/2012 2:54 pm
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I sometimes see fathers taking young daughters into the gents to use the facilities.

Until they're old enough to take themselves into the ladies, there's not much option.


 
Posted : 27/01/2012 3:00 pm
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Ditto binners.

It's a system that's worked perfectly well since the beginning of time. Or at least since public conveniences were invented.

Only a berk would complain about a parent taking their 3-year-old into the loo's.

There's absolutely no need for special parent/child-specific facilities.


 
Posted : 27/01/2012 3:02 pm
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My son likes to run into the ladies and have a dump before deciding that he cant wipe his own arse. Only does it when I'm the only one there though.

I am saddened that there i nothing special about woman's toilets. Does make me wonder why they feel the need to go there in pairs though.


 
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Until they're old enough to take themselves into the ladies, there's not much option.

Why should it matter anyway?


 
Posted : 27/01/2012 3:03 pm
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Yep, binners nails it.

What I found more annoying was having to go into the female loo because that's where the baby change was. Surprisingly common even in these enlightened times 👿


 
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Binners+1
My mate took my eldest son to the loo when we were at a restaurant years ago, only to return shouting as he got to the table that my mate hadn't washed his hands, everyone looked towards him, red faced and full of denial, kids always tell it the way they see it.
Aways makes me laugh the way they shout at the top of their voices to you when you're stood on the other side of the door.


 
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Why should it matter anyway?

Not sure why you're addressing that to me -- the OP seems to have an issue with it, though.


 
Posted : 27/01/2012 3:08 pm
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Just get ready for you daughter to ask the following question.....

Dad - what are those men stood up over there doing?

😉


 
Posted : 27/01/2012 3:10 pm
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"They're having a wee."

Not so hard 🙂


 
Posted : 27/01/2012 3:11 pm
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When I go swimming I try and make a point of going into one of the little private changing booths if there are any small girls in the changing room.

(Dont want to scare them)


 
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Sorry wasn't really directing it at you, just using the quote.

Not so hard

One would hope.


 
Posted : 27/01/2012 3:13 pm
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"They're having a wee."

Not so hard

Followed by...

Can I do it that way too Dad

😉


 
Posted : 27/01/2012 3:15 pm
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When I'm with the kids I just use the disabled.

Loads more room and generally much cleaner.


 
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Oh if you want a real can, I shall have one in a few weeks time when my son's swimming changes to half an hour later. Then I'll be returning to the changing rooms with him whilst the following school group is using them (from previous experience they're always running late). The thing is, the boys use the male changing room, the school feels they need adult supervision, and they don't have any male teachers...


 
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Swimming pool changing rooms are the same, just take them in the changing room based on the gender of the parent. Simple.

Sometimes the guys at ours moan a bit about older kids (5 or 6 yr olds, there's an age limit which is 8 I think) pointing at people's willies and laughing, but frankly if you're worried about anyone looking at your cock, you could always use the cubicles provided and shower with swimming stuff on (at ours in the gents changing they have cubicles and an open central bit with benches, but most people use the central bit and just change out there).

In quite a few more modern swimming pools than ours, I've noticed that they just have a single large number of cubicles, which seems fine, although removes the social changing room banter thing that a lot of the older serious swimmer types seem to get up to.

The baby change in the ladies thing is dead annoying. If there's no baby change at all, the ladies is sometimes better anyway, because there's less likely to be piss on the floor of the cubicles / exciting looking urinals to poke curious hands in.


 
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What I found more annoying was having to go into the female loo because that's where the baby change was. Surprisingly common even in these enlightened times

Really? I love doing it. Any chance for a perfectly justifiable perv!


 
Posted : 27/01/2012 3:21 pm
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You can tell you've not got kids. Once you do, any distinction between male and female toilet facilities you previously held, soon evaporates.

You say that, but it doesn't; if it did, you'd see men with daughters and women with sons equally.

the OP seems to have an issue with it, though.

I don't have an issue with it at all. I just thought it might be an interesting talking point. I'd be quite happy with unisex bathrooms.


 
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Can I do it that way too Dad

"You can try, but you'll have to wipe the floor afterwards."

🙂

Sorry wasn't really directing it at you, just using the quote.

Ah. As you were 🙂


 
Posted : 27/01/2012 3:27 pm
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Jeepers what with this and the ball shaving thread you lot are the biggest bunch of prudes ever.

Tender parts are just normal and the sooner we get away from this religiously induced fear of showing or discussing our bits the better. Come on STW HTFU!


 
Posted : 27/01/2012 3:27 pm
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When I'm with the kids I just use the disabled.

I do that on my own. You can't beat the comfort of a handicrap.


 
Posted : 27/01/2012 3:28 pm
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You can tell you've not got kids. Once you do, any distinction between male and female toilet facilities you previously held, soon evaporates.

😆


 
Posted : 27/01/2012 3:29 pm
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I've got a four month old daughter so I'm finding this thread quite educational!


 
Posted : 27/01/2012 3:40 pm
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I'd be quite happy with unisex bathrooms.

yeah yeah.... thats the changing room equivalent of 'I've got a black friend'

racist!


 
Posted : 27/01/2012 3:43 pm
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Just think Phil - the next time you take a sneaky peak at the guy next to you in the urinals... it could be a kids face looking back at you!


 
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'You can't beat the comfort of a handicrap'

S****...


 
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I don't have an issue with it at all. I just thought it might be an interesting talking point.

What is this, the Jeremy Vine show?

/looks around

Ah. As you were.


 
Posted : 27/01/2012 3:56 pm
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Unisex changing rooms at pools are hateful. I used to take my pervy little brov into girls loos when he we a toddler. I think I may have warped his little mind they way he carries on now


 
Posted : 27/01/2012 4:15 pm
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In the baths I take my nephew to, the age limit for taking him into the female changing room is 7.
Now he's 8, he's trustworthy enough (I hope) to sort himself out and come out with the correct clothes on from the men's changing room.


 
Posted : 27/01/2012 5:33 pm
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You funny English/British people with your laughing and embarrassment at peoples bodies.

It's a wonder you manage to actually procreate...


 
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It's nothing they haven't seen before. Get over yourself.

But much as I wouldn't have a problem taking my daughter in the ladies' changing, the other customers would probably rather have young boys in there than dads.


 
Posted : 27/01/2012 5:45 pm
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[s]wonder[/s] shame


 
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the other customers would probably rather have young boys in there than dads.

... that's kinda what I was asking, really. Would they?


 
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I think I'd be more comfortable with a mother taking a young son in the gents, rather than me having to use a urinal with small girls wandering curiously about.

Eh? What on earth do you think goes through little kids' minds when they see genitals?

The ONLY reason private bits are anything weird is that we are taught that there's something weird about them. Just body parts.

Lil Grips: What's that?
Me: That's my willy.
Lil Grips: Oh.


 
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By that argument, what goes through adults' minds? Why do we need segregated bathrooms?


 
Posted : 27/01/2012 5:50 pm
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Jeepers what with this and the ball shaving thread you lot are the biggest bunch of prudes ever.

Tender parts are just normal and the sooner we get away from this religiously induced fear of showing or discussing our bits the better. Come on STW HTFU!

Yup - I went to a sauna in Austria recently on holiday. Didn't realise beforehand but nakedness is strictly enforced, and all the changing rooms are unisex. It was weird at first but once I got over feeling terribly British and prudish about the whole thing it was fine. Seems like a much more grown up way to do things really.


 
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The risk is that when adults see genitals from the opposite sex, there might be an erotic response which is unlikely in children under 7.

It's a bit silly though given that many of us blokes happily get changed in front of other blokes, even ones we know, without worrying about whether or not they are gay.


 
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Me having a wee in the gym.

Little girl: What's that?
Me: That's my hedgehog
Little Girl: Wow, it's got a big willy for a hedgehog!


 
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By that argument, what goes through adults' minds? Why do we need segregated bathrooms?

You started it, why don't you like little girls seeing you naked?


 
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Allways like a bit of cross dressing me.. So it was one way of explaining to the girls why I had to do it, can't have little girls going into the Gents now can we? All that willy shaking going on, so when we went out together they had to do with another Mother figure.. 😉

They're not so keen on the idea these days for some reason.


 
Posted : 27/01/2012 6:28 pm
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You started it, why don't you like little girls seeing you naked?

And that, your honour, is how it all started.


 
Posted : 27/01/2012 6:32 pm
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Common sense and dignity - that's all it takes!

One of the funniest things happened once with my son who was just a toddler at the time and he needed a wee. We were at Chester Zoo and walked into the toilets and he had always used the little urinals before but in this one there was a stainless steel trough! He looked at and his eyes widened and stared at it, then turned to me and said "dad, is this where you come for a p@ss" Neither me nor my wife ever swore in front of the kids so it must have been a school thing but to hear him say it was a shock but so so funny I had to hide my laughter. Boy did me and his mum p@ss ourselves laughing later :mrgreen:


 
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Yup - I went to a sauna in Austria recently on holiday. Didn't realise beforehand but nakedness is strictly enforced, and all the changing rooms are unisex. It was weird at first but once I got over feeling terribly British and prudish about the whole thing it was fine. Seems like a much more grown up way to do things really.

Went to Austria on a multi-national selection weekend - the sauna was like that, and I think I might have been the only Brit to go in. The advantage compared to most saunas is that everybody was young and fit 😉


 
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