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Found sat on a post in North Wales, very weak, taken to a wild bird sanctuary, first thought was an immature Buzzard, but, doesn't look like one, about 14 inches

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Posted : 04/05/2011 12:16 pm
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Small pic but I'm pretty sure that's a female peregrine falcon. Good spot.

Edit - that's better!...reviewing the bigger pic it looks like it might be a female hobby.


 
Posted : 04/05/2011 12:18 pm
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I reckon its a crow 😉

(Wow, lovely pic.)


 
Posted : 04/05/2011 12:22 pm
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Peregrine Falcon..

brilliant pic of an awesome bird...


 
Posted : 04/05/2011 12:27 pm
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Baby Robin killer.


 
Posted : 04/05/2011 12:30 pm
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Cool pic.

Used to have peregrine falcons nesting in the quarry where I worked many years ago. Cool birds


 
Posted : 04/05/2011 12:33 pm
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Baby Robin killer.

Err, no - it's not a photo of my cat!


 
Posted : 04/05/2011 12:41 pm
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I'd be more inclined to say peregrine/saker cross


 
Posted : 04/05/2011 4:03 pm
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My son, who LOVES birds, has just looked it up in his bird book and insists it's definitely a buzzard.

It must be, therefore, a buzzard.


 
Posted : 04/05/2011 4:42 pm
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I'm pretty sure it's a juvenile peregrine - looks a lot like one. However, could also be an escapee cross of any manner of big captive-bred falcon - peregrine/saker/gyr etc. Huge colour variation possible. Wasn't anywhere near the Clocaenog forest was it? Pen y Bryn Falconry is currently training a young saker/gyr that has a habit of going AWOL. It is usually fitted with telemetry and I think it may be a bit darker than the one in the pic (which is great btw!) but might be worth giving them a call.


 
Posted : 04/05/2011 4:50 pm
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My son, who LOVES birds, has just looked it up in his bird book and insists it's definitely a buzzard.

It must be, therefore, a buzzard.


Sorry but that's rubbish. It's nothing like a buzzard, other than the fact it's a raptor.
I do go along with the theory it's a juvenile or a peregrine cross. If it's a cross, then it ought to be ringed, with contact details.
This is a peregrine/saker IIRC:
[IMG] [/IMG]


 
Posted : 04/05/2011 5:00 pm
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It's a surly faced shitehawk


 
Posted : 04/05/2011 5:04 pm
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That's way out tadeuszkrieger - I teach many SFS's on a daily basis.
That's a boz-eyed egret.


 
Posted : 04/05/2011 5:29 pm
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I thought a Buzzard, we get a lot here.
Got the right colours, brown and brown flecked chest, yellow legs.
No expert though.

Perigrines are blue/grey'ish aren't they?

Tell I've been on loads of the local forestry bird watching courses can't you. The long dark patches dropping away from the eyes suggest a Hobby, but I've never seen one. Everything else looks Buzzard'ish apart from those eye markings.
Surely someone knows.


 
Posted : 04/05/2011 5:35 pm
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females are a brownish colour - both sexes have that distinctive 'tache though.


 
Posted : 04/05/2011 5:40 pm
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It looks quite grumpy in the first pic, whatever it is.

Cracking photos though


 
Posted : 04/05/2011 5:43 pm
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It's a Muslamic Gay Swan


 
Posted : 04/05/2011 5:49 pm
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I take it back now. I said Buzzard, then Hobby. I now also think it's a juvenile Perigrine.

We get a fair few Buzzards here, in Leighton Buzzard! It's proper hard to identify these birds from piccies.

This is always what I was led to believe a Perigrine Falcon would look like.
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Posted : 04/05/2011 5:50 pm
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Baby robin - see the quality of singletrackworld bird ID on here: http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/any-twitchers-in-the-house


 
Posted : 04/05/2011 5:54 pm
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(Female Peregrine BTW)
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Posted : 04/05/2011 5:56 pm
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That is not a Buzzard, by any standards. Way too small.

I think that you might find it to be a Merlin actually.


 
Posted : 04/05/2011 6:25 pm
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Too big for a Merlin. They are proper tiny, like thrush sized.

Hobby.
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Posted : 04/05/2011 6:27 pm
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[IMG] [/IMG]

Average Merlin is between 26cm - 35cm. How big are the Thrushes where you live??!!


 
Posted : 04/05/2011 6:31 pm
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Same size as a merlin

[url= http://www.garden-birds.co.uk/birds/songthrush.htm ]song thrush stats[/url]
[url= http://www.garden-birds.co.uk/birds/mistlethrush.htm ]Mistle thrush stats[/url]

OK...give or take a cm or two 🙂


 
Posted : 04/05/2011 6:41 pm
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Have just spoken to my young Brother-in-Law, who has confirmed that it is indeed a female peregrine.

His credentials?

http://markgtelfer.co.uk/listing/10th/

Bloody geek...!


 
Posted : 04/05/2011 7:03 pm
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It looks quite grumpy in the first pic, whatever it is.

All birds of prey tend to look a bit grumpy.

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Posted : 04/05/2011 7:03 pm
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His credentials?

http://markgtelfer.co.uk/listing/10th/

Your link provided a fascinating and undoubtedly useful, recipe for [b][i]" Water-soluble mounting medium for genitalia "[/i][/b]

......I'm popping down to the shops tomorrow to buy the ingredients.


 
Posted : 04/05/2011 7:12 pm
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Peregrine, saker and gyr falcons come in all kinds of colour variants and cross breeding, it's difficult to tell between them sometimes. I took a pic ages ago of a surprisingly tame falcon in some local woodland (pic was on fotopic so has now disappeared 👿 ) but it took me bloody ages (and some advice on here and from a local Bird of Prey centre) to work out it was a saker/gyr cross which had apparently gone AWOL from some breeder a week before.

Nice pic - the bird manages to look both bored and pissed off!


 
Posted : 04/05/2011 7:20 pm
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tadeuszkrieger - Member
"It's a surly faced shitehawk"
Cue tea/keyboard interface 😆


 
Posted : 04/05/2011 7:23 pm