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Well i have to work another year to get what ever pension there may be left,
Probably need the NHS at sometime,
Electrification of the railways and the new Runcorn Widnes crossing will bring jobs and new skills,enable more freight to go by rail etc.
Sad for people loosing their jobs, but best to look at it as restructuring your life,thats what i got told years ago at the Job centre.
So hows everyone else going to be affected.
Everyone, but the poorest most. You gets what you vote for.
Work on eurofighter and nothings been said specifically but I'm not hopefull
Having to wait for the proposals for the public health service to know what will happen to us...
Work for the Environment Agency at bottom of wheel rut level and keep getting told we'll be all right as they seem to be targeting office and managers mainly but I just don't trust them. Probably know better in a few weeks.
still not nice to see anyone lose their job 🙁
We'll all be affected in some way.
Me, hopefully for the better. We went through all the changes we need to as a family already. Less of our money now to be pissed up against the wall - but not much less.
Better to sort it now we cannot continue with half the country
working in the public sector, and folk sponging of the state rather than work, any one who thinks otherwise, is sadly not lIving in the real word I'm afraid.
Nope.
with half the country
working in the public sector, and folk sponging of the state rather than work,
Is that really true? If so it's shocking.
Surprise! STW in believing the Daily Mail again!
Is that really true? If so it's shocking.
Remember we (us taxpayers) picked up an extra quarter of a million extra employees when we nationalised the banks. They're all public sector workers now.
But according to this, only 21% of the UK workforce are in the public sector.
Not the cuts, just the downturn. Nothing in the order book.
Half of STW council/ public service employees??
'N' missing from the thread title surely?
Electrification of the rest of the railways and a big ass bridge just down the road from me, winner! Lets go contracting 😆
We will all be affected - I work in an already shrunken corner of the public sector and welfare reform could well see me having to claim the darn thing myself when it comes in (oh, the irony!)
But seriously, I was wondering quite what the fuss is about. They are cutting spending to the levels it was only 3-4 years ago - so it seems to me that it must have gone through the roof in the last few years then and needs to be cut.
I know 500,000 jobs may go from the public sector over the next 4 years, but looking around me, there is clearly scope to lose some people/jobs (wtf is a "knowledge exchange manager" anyway?) and natural turnover could easily account for a lot of those. I hope it's not my job but I've been made redundant twice before and you just have to pick yourself up and get on with it .
The problem will be that too many people implementing the cuts at the top will be protecting themselves at the expense of frontline staff and services when it comes to making the hard decisions.
What has really tee'd me off is the spineless cretins retaining winter heating allowance for ALL pensioners because "universal benefits" are important. It wasn't for child benefit, and I'm sorry, my parents currently get more in pensions than I earn in a year and they do not need the extra coming out my taxes!
There's loads of natural loss to account for those 500,000 jobs. Most public posts have been frozen or deleted for most of the year with many now having to go to the Secretary of State of the sponsoring department to get approved. You should see the rediculous hoops we have to jump through to do mandatory training, H&S etc. Has to be signed by the HR director - good use of his time! We could lose a lot of staff as an agency and be no worse off IMO.
Totally agree swinley
[Who's swinley?]
with half the country
working in the public sector, and folk sponging of the state rather than work,
But according to this, only 21% of the UK workforce are in the public sector.
That's a relief. What's the unemployment rate then?
490000 public sector job losses. For every ten of those, three will go in the private sector.
[i]Everyone, but the poorest most. You gets what you vote for[/i] I'm not sure that the majority voted for this and i suspect theres a few people who voted liberal who'll be shaking in their sandals
For every ten of those, three will go in the private sector
the rest will start small businesses to provide goods and services to everyone else and create great wealth to filter back into the economy and save us all........ 🙄
The elephant in the room is the private sector suppliers to the public sector that will be cut. I think this will be much bigger than people imagine, and have a profound effect on the economy.
However, its time to get off the gravy train and do some real work....
[i]However, its time to get off the gravy train and do some real work[/i]
🙄
Seems to me those middle class liberal voters are going to be kicking themselves rather hard right now. It is not the Champagne socialists who are going to feel the child allowance stoppage.
Do they really think there is going to be the constitutional reform they want? Certainly not in this Parliament. Anything they do get will be watered down till it is FPTP in all but name.
For me personally. It is going to take a year to eighteen months to affect my job security even though there has been no pay rise for the last 2 years whilst the company has been making record profits and having the first round of redundancies in thirty years. Profiteering pigs citing the worldwide downturn to justify their actions.
And in reference to the other thread it is all Thatchers legacy. Killing manufacturing and industry was just the side effect of going over the top on the witch hunt of the unions. (not condoning the British Leyland style militants but that was shooting the dog rather than training it.
Does that lot make sense, most likely not. I am not going to read it back though, if i do I will not post it
Since my work (housing support worker ) :|is funded by the local council I expect a lot of redundancies. I will need to explain the changes to the benefit system to those I support so if Iam lucky enough to keep my job there will be more work and less time. 😐
And what valuble work do you do then Ibis oh wise one?
I've decided to respond to today's announcements by volunteering at a youth club, establishing a new school, forming a local militia for home defence, opening a soup kitchen and haranguing poor people and the disabled about what a lazy bunch of ingrates they are. It is in the white heat of my self-righteous enthusiasm that the Big Society will be formed. Who is with me?
Im with you bd, ive just slapped the wife in the chops, to show solidarity, flipping lazy dla claimants!!!
well 1st child in a few weks and missus is just o0ver the threshold so no benefit
work for a science institute charity, so 'only' 10% cuts are a worry -already on a pay freeze and the crash has wiped out a big chunk of the charities cash
so all in all rather uncertain
its the damage to the university system that will really hit us long term and the increase in cost of degrees will probably limit our ability to recruit massively
science and research in this country will be set back decades 🙁
Looks like the A14 upgrade has been cancelled. £1.4Bn road widening scheme.
I guess one of my local loops will remain intact for a few more years.
everyone apart from the millionaires who pay no tax and keep their earnings abroad yet retain the right to vote and the idiot bankers who ****ed us all in the first place!!
happy days!
I'm far too happy on seeing that BD is back to care what Cameron is doing 🙂
luked2 ...... are you getting paid for being a Tory spin doctor ❓
actually if ever a road needed widening its the a14!
The question really is what are those 1/2m public sector workers going to do now?
The question really is what are those 1/2m public sector workers going to do now?
Obviously they will not be claiming any benefits hence decreasing the welfare bill!!! ;o)
I'm an architect specialising in the social housing sector so my government funding has been hit but it's not looking all doom and gloom
luked2 ...... are you getting paid for being a Tory spin doctor
Well, duh. Yes. Obviously 🙄
We should get together sometime and swap notes on the rates the conservatives and labour are offering.
actually if ever a road needed widening its the a14!
Naah. More people should cycle. And they should open the guided bus.
I work for the police (staff) so clearly screwed, only been there a couple of years and was just starting to make a difference (honest) but I'm surrounded by people that have been there 10-15 years and they offer not value what so ever. I'd love to thing this'll shake out all the dead wood but, as already pointed out, its the dead wood that'll be making the decisions.
oh dear
We should get together sometime and swap notes on the rates the conservatives and labour are offering.
Because I trot out the Labour Party line ?
Interesting........I don't even vote Labour.
Strangely ive been to a few more calls about upgradeing customers physical perimeter security.
EG replaceing or fitting new locks.
i think this sums up the torry cuts nicely
**** the poor
protect the rich
we are all in this together eh?
[i]if you rank households by spending rather than income, which the Treasury also does in some of its tables, the bottom 30% of households are all contributing more to the deficit reduction effort, as a share of their spending, than the top 10%.
Taking into account all tax and benefit changes up to 2014-15, the average loss across the bottom 30% is roughly 6% of their spending, versus just over 3% for the top 10%.
More generally: the IFS notes that the benefit changes have actually increased, slightly, the money going to pensioners. By far the biggest losers from the coalition's benefit changes will be families with children.
As I discussed in a post in August, it is an interesting irony of the coalition's approach that a plan which is supposed to be "saving our children from the burden of rising national debt" is being paid for, in large part, by families and children.
The baby boomers who benefited so much from the boom, and will start to retire next year, are being relatively protected from the costs of paying for the bust. [/i]
Kimbers, you really hate the tories don't you?
It's getting a bit boring IMO, maybe you should just give them a chance?