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Boris's comments on piccaninies
As you say DD a bit too nuanced for me.
You clearly forget my criticism of Bojo's stupid "Obama" comments. Seems we are all struggling with our memories at the moment, eh?
teamhurtmore - MemberLots of bollocks here
Starting (apparantly) with Boris's BS, closely followed by Farage - both in the same mould
Bloody nuance again.....its so hard to tell what folk are saying these days. Anyone would think that was critical of Bojo.....
Got me there Doc - bloody hell, cant remember Bojo's BS from 2002. Nurse, fetch the zimmer.....
The piccanninies comment was more recent - during the first mayoral election he stood in AFAIR.
You clearly forget my criticism of Bojo's stupid "Obama" comments.
Well if you are claiming that Boris Johnson isn't quite the mate he once was then you're not the only Tory to say that :
[url= http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/may/02/david-cameron-says-friendship-with-boris-johnson-damaged-by-brexit ]David Cameron says friendship with Boris Johnson damaged by Brexit[/url]
Lots of Tories, it would appear, are being rather beastly to each other.
Mind you, you still affectionately refer to him in that quaint public school matey manner as Bojo, which is nice.
Your knowledge of nasty Tories and what they say far surpasses mine DD. I'm impressed. Bojo obviously made more of an impression on you than he did on me.
Are you looking forward to him as PM?
Evening Ernie - almost a full house - sorry not an OE I'm afraid. Took the nickname from the media. Sad I know....Can we have some more of your photo collection - the poster girl, Hammy and Bojo. What a rogue's gallery that would be. 😀
Evening Ernie
How you doing geezer? I see you've been busy defending the Tories all day again, you politically neutral thing you 🙂
Nigeria eh? I'm surprised we are still allowed to call it that...
Still, does anyone really think that these 'unfortunate' 'off the cuff' remarks were really released by authorised press pool members without clearance at the highest level?
Realpolitik innit.
ninfan - Member
Nigeria eh? I'm surprised we are still allowed to call it that...
Why?
What Cameron thinks he's like:
What Cameron's really like:
Nigeria eh? I'm surprised we are still allowed to call it that...
In that case you are probably mispronouncing it.
Why the fuss. They are corrupt. To fanny about pretending otherwise is why polititans are despised.
The foreign visitors the Queen was on about are also down right rude so bloody well tell them.
The piccanninies comment was more recent - during the first mayoral election he stood in AFAIR.
Not so, he made it in 2002 - six years before he ran for mayor, he apologised for it in his first campaign - [url= http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2008/jan/23/london.race ]guardian article[/url]
Quite right. I couldn't find anything out of place in either Dave's or Queen's comments. Except perhaps the microphone.
Mefty 😀
Precise facts have been noticeably missing here....
[quote=slowoldman ]Quite right. I couldn't find anything out of place in either Dave's or Queen's comments. Except perhaps the microphone.
so you blame the recording device for their comments 😯
The queen is meant to be neutral - she failed quite spectacularlyy and much as I dislike the institution its hard to think of another example
Dave referred to "unforced errors" today
YOu are free to support them, right or wrong, and neither offence was that heinous but nothing wrong is a little too loyal and dismissive of the facts.
OK.
1. Nigeria and Afghanistan ARE two of the most corrupt countries on the planet.
2. It wasn't actually the Queen you initiated the comments regarding rudeness of the Chinese officials, and it sounds as though they were.
3. Why are conversations like this recorded and broadcast anyway? It just invites negative responses to comments which taken in context were quite justified.
Oh and I say this as neither a staunch Royalist or a Tory supporter. I just think the truth should be supported.
You are quite right mefty, as your link shows Boris Johnson apologised for referring to black people as "piccaninnies" six years later.
Of course the cynics will be quick point out that "six years later" happened to coincide with Johnson's London mayoral campaign. But I think it's just a simple coincidence.
So yes it was quite a big news story when Johnson first stood in the mayoral election - six years later, as your 2008 link shows. But THM doesn't seem to remember it.
Btw we know that Johnson has apologised for referring to black people as piccaninnies, and he has apologised to the people of Liverpool for insulting them in another carefully written article, but has he ever apologised to gay men for calling them "tank-topped bumboys" ? I can't remember.
I can't remember
Dont worry, it's not relevant to the actual story. Odd that it was used in the first place....
Dont worry
I'm trying not to but as mefty brought up Johnson's apology in his first mayoral election it got me thinking what else Johnson has and hasn't apologised for.
Obviously there's no point asking you as your memory appears to be worse than mine.
Aye, sorry mefty is correct, the comments were from a good few years previously - it's a good job your (2nd PP) mate Boris hasn't said anything nearly as racist since. I accept any responsibility for any right wing erections caused by my mistake and hope they have been suitably masturbated away by now. 🙂
I hadn't heard that one - probably added to the quality of Matthew Parris's invective against him.
Obviously there's no point asking you as your memory appears to be worse than mine.
Very true, can anyone match you encyclopaedic knowledge of anything Tory? Quotes, photos, stats...it's incredible. Anyone would think.....
FFS can we have a bit of decorum DD? I find your constant references to right-wingers furiously engaging in self abuse somewhat unsettling.
Pot calling kettle black IMO.What is perhaps pertinent here is that the filming was done by the Palaces' own tv crew and production team, who knowingly released this clip to the world media.
Perhaps the royal household have also had enough and putting in place the first steps of their own coup?
And if that doesn't make you think... Then Eurovision will...
LOL.
Very few of you appear to have ever spent any time in a third world country. There's a reason why countries with more resources than us (The Philippines has gold, oil, swathes of fertile land, massive amounts of labour capital with a population of 120 odd million). Yet, are unbelievably shit poor despite 100 years of independence (discounting ww2).
And the reason for that, is that they are fantastically, no almost miraculously corrupt. You are arrested for a crime? Pay your way out. Kill 50 political opponents, rape their daughters and wives and then shoot them in the genitals and also kill journalists and passing witnesses in an ambush? It will quite literally take 1000 years to process and bring to trial all of the accused. Want a driving license but can't be arsed to take the exam? Bribe an official for one? Want to make a little extra cash on the side? Dump a load of ammo in a tourists bag in an airport and then blackmail them. Want to make people vote for you? Hand out leaflets with cash notes attached. Want to say you've reduced crime? Hire death squads and kill off street children who steal to survive - kill their moms if they complain too much.
Want to get unmitigated political power? Play to the peoples obsession with celebrity, make controversial statements and play the hard man. To people who pride themselves on being staunchly Catholic, oppose abortion and family planning but will vote for a mass murderer. Don't tell these people that they have to change, take that responsibility away from them. Once in power, loot the country, declare martial law and tear up the constitution exactly like Marcos did (because the Senate and Congress are too retarded to redact the martial law legislation).
****ing glad I live in the UK.
Not so, he made it in 2002 - six years before he ran for mayor, he apologised for it in his first campaign - guardian article
To be fair, I get the feeling that he was trying, although somewhat clumsily, to use those terms in that article to highlight Tony Blair as some sort of narcissistic, paternalistic, colonialist, do-gooder.
Which would be spot on.
Nah, I think he was riffing off "Scoop" by Evelyn Waugh.