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crankboy - MemberSilly answer we are not talking about scale we are talking about in what way were different rules applied to appease Muslims.
Given the largely Muslim population of Iraq you don't make your Muslim appeasing point by reference to that conflict anyway.
“We will no longer target belligerents solely because they are members of the Taliban,” the official said. “To the extent that Taliban members directly threaten the United States and coalition forces in Afghanistan or provide direct support to Al Qaeda, however, we will take appropriate measures to keep Americans safe.” (Ref: [url= https://www.lawfareblog.com/rules-engagement-war-afghanistan-2015 ]This bloke.[/url])
Ya, carry on reading the article then google the rest ... 🙄 You will find that someone is going to appease someone ...
Told you something is fishy ...
p/s: [url= http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/nov/26/rules-of-engagement-bind-us-troops-actions-in-afgh/?page=all ]Washington Post - not sure right or left wing.[/url]
So this daft mad as a brush government sends an army to Afghanistan and Iraq when all the time the enemy is in Bradford, Burnley, Blackburn etc....... ON ****ING BENEFIT!
You couldn't make this up, if this was a Carry on Film you would be absolutely ****ing pissing yourself, and that's even before Babs starts running around with the jugs out. If Benny Hill got in on the act it wouldn't be any funnier.
Chewy you are now quoting how the Americans are ending the war not how they and we fought it . we also stopped shooting Germans in 1945 not out of appeasement just because the shooty bit was over.
Superstar what enemy are you an about Britain First or the English Defence League ?
crankboy - Member
Chewy you are now quoting how the Americans are ending the war not how they and we fought it .
I think it applies to all "Western" troops and I am sure Merica take the lead as usual. If Merica decides to change the rule of engagement the rest follow ...
@chewy, nope. ROE is derived from the applicable laws of each member of the coalitions land. As an example US troops can use deadly to protect property. We, cannot.
moose - Member@chewy, nope. ROE is derived from the applicable laws of each member of the coalitions land. As an example US troops can use deadly to protect property.[b] We, cannot. [/b]
Crikey ... 😯
I bet we (you) will be throwing hand bags at them in future ...
moose - Member
Was meant to read deadly force. But you get my drift.
edit: Ya, got that.
Was meant to read deadly force. But you get my drift.
So this daft mad as a brush government sends an army to Afghanistan and Iraq when all the time the enemy is in Bradford, Burnley, Blackburn etc....... ON **** BENEFIT!
You couldn't make this up
But you just did. 😕
Germany closes border and leaves Schengen 😯
Well, they were warned...
Depressingly predictable really. Germany have got it all wrong encouraging them and its now out of control. Only answer I can see is UN run camps around Syria borders and then limited asylum for those very needy cases. Which isn't too far off the current UK approach.
EU really needs to get better at fast, coordinated responses to crisis whatever the nature and cause.
ninfan - MemberGermany closes border and leaves Schengen
Well, they were warned...
I wonder what sort of ideal world the German govt was thinking of previously ... 😯
Save the world? 🙄
I expect there will be some remarkable scenes from the German border over the next few days
"Angela promised us"
Looks like Cameron's approach was correct then. Open door policies can't work.
I don't think only accepting a handful of refugees when there is a catastrophic crises, which is Cameron's approach, has been proved to be correct.
If some other countries such as the UK faced up to their responsibilities then perhaps Germany wouldn't be quite so overwhelmed.
This whole crises and the UK government's response to it just serves to emphasise what an arsehole Cameron really is.
I don't think only accepting a handful of refugees when there is a catastrophic crises, which is Cameron's approach, has been proved to be correct.If countries such as the UK faced up to its responsibility then perhaps Germany wouldn't be quite so overwhelmed.
This whole crises and the UK government's response to it just serves to emphasise what an arsehole Cameron really is imo.
I thought the local funding of refugee assistance and selected vulnerable refugee placement sounded quite sensible
as compared to the German/ Swedish policies which have got lots people dashing to their countries in the knowledge that its "first come, first served" and that the barriers will go up again very soon when they are overwhelmed with the numbers
the European plan to "redistribute" won't work as the refugees aren't daft all will be aiming for the places with the best offer rather than for example Bulgaria. Anyone sent their will simply try again to get to the better offer, when they get sent back to Bulgaria again how will they react?
so what is Corbyn's "right" number? what is his strategy for this?
so what is Corbyn's "right" number?
That's the critical question.
I thought the local funding of refugee assistance and selected vulnerable refugee placement sounded quite sensible
I'm sure you do. How has it helped to solve the crises?
How has it helped to solve the crises?
it helped manage the problem of refugees locally, supported the states adjacent to Syria who were taking the strain and generally made things better for a lot more people than Corbyn is proposing to take in to the UK
What is Corbyn's Syria strategy?
Well if you think Cameron's policy of leaving them in Lebanese refugee camps is helping to solve the problem then I think it's probably best to leave it there, I can't see this going anywhere useful.
Well if you think Cameron's policy of leaving them in Lebanese refugee camps is helping to solve the problem then I think it's probably best to leave it there, I can't see this going anywhere useful.
why do you think moving and dispersing a significant % of the Syrian population out of the region a better one?
Do you want to offer direct flights or do they need to paddle/ walk to the borders of Europe first?
What is Corbyn saying are his numbers for the refugees to be taken in to the UK, where are they coming from (EU or from region), what is his wider strategy to resolve the crisis?