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OK Guys N Girls

I'm about to start on a new Garage/workshop/playroom project and i'll no doubt be on here as the project goes on begging for advice.

Anyways the 1st stage of planning is figuring out how big I can go. It will be situated at the end of the garden sitting on three boundaries. By my reckoning I can get the base to be around about 23 foot x 12 foot but a few limiting factors are trees. so the 1st picking of your brains is

1. How close can I have the base to a prety well established tree? There are three in place but smallish ones are probably coming out the third one will be as far as can go (this will limit the 12 foot depth of the garage so I want to squeee as much as I can out of it)

2. How close can I go to the boundary with the base? I've factored about a 12-14" gap as the walls of the garage will be in from the base a couple of inchs. The garage will be cement block built, rendered to back and sides and wooded over the block to the front to make it more of a cottage feel and a bit more pleasant on the ol eyes

cheers peeps


 
Posted : 04/09/2010 7:19 pm
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youll need planning permission if youre next to the boundary

EDIT and plan on being higher than permitted
http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/england/public/buildingwork/projects/workcommonoutbuildings/


 
Posted : 04/09/2010 7:23 pm
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Any reason why the new building walls can't replace your current boundary wall/fence/hedge? Saves having a faffy gap to keep weeding and losing frisbees in.


 
Posted : 04/09/2010 7:25 pm
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youll need planning permission if youre next to the boundary

No you don't. You can still build under permitted development as long as you fall within the restrictions in the link posted.

If you build it less than 30m2 then you shouldn't need building regs for the building so you can build it how like. Electrics will still need regs. The proximity to trees depends on the soil and the type and size of tree. The base can co right up to the boundary.

This is assuming you have a 'normal' house. Not listed or in a national park or something else weird.


 
Posted : 04/09/2010 9:03 pm
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You will need to ensure you dont undermine the foundations of the boundary walls also you may need to appoint a party wall surveyor to act for the wall- i kid you not!


 
Posted : 04/09/2010 9:16 pm
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I want to leave the boundaies in tact. Its concrete posts and fenced all the way round and to be honest I'm not even sure who owns the fences etc.
the garage will be wide enough (23 foot base) if I leave the fences in place so It'll only give me an extra foot if I went right up to the rear boundary so not really worth all the messing about to be honest.

NikJB - I figured I wouldn't need planning permission with it being solid walls so as long as I don't get giddy and make it 20' tall I should be cool.

Not totally sure what kind of tree it is that i'd be close to but the main trunk is about has a diameter of less than 6". I was hoping to be able to put the base about 6" from the base or as close as I can get it. Was inending on having a 6" foundation with maybe a 6" base on top of that to ensure its never cracked / disturbed by the tree..... or this overkill?


 
Posted : 05/09/2010 7:05 am
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The process of excavating 150mm into the ground may disrupt the roots of the trees. If you post a general photo of the trees and a close-up of the leaves I can id them for you. The only problem would occur if they are fast growing and large whereby the roots would crack the founations.


 
Posted : 05/09/2010 9:13 am
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Cheers Dan. A few pics below of said tree. Think I was being a bit optimistic about the size of the fella as its about 12" diameter.

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Posted : 05/09/2010 7:53 pm
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PS excuse the naff night shots been at it all day and forgot until I came in


 
Posted : 05/09/2010 7:53 pm
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The benefits of a tall/2-storey/loft garage are not to be under-estimated.

Go for the maximum height you can get.


 
Posted : 06/09/2010 7:39 am
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Not totally sure what kind of tree it is that i'd be close to but the main trunk is about has a diameter of less than 6". I was hoping to be able to put the base about 6" from the base or as close as I can get it. Was inending on having a 6" foundation with maybe a 6" base on top of that to ensure its never cracked / disturbed by the tree.

That tree down will have to come down. It will, when bigger cause so much damage to the garage if you put it that close.


 
Posted : 06/09/2010 7:44 am