[Closed] "Brought" and "Bought" My theory.

Why, do you know someone called Grant, or is it just a general see if they'll come out of the woodwork query?

See also:

Looser vs loser

You're vs your

It's vs its

etc etc etc

The internets is fool of stupid people.

My mother-in-law gets them mixed up when speaking "I've brought a new coat". Annoys the hell out of me, then again so does she......

"I've brought a new coat"

From where did you bring it?

From the shop, where I bought it.

You've been reading my posts haven't you Graham.

Lend > Borrow.

It has always got on my man-norks.

It's not so much that the internet is full of idiots, rather that there are the usual idiots who have now found themselves in a position to advertise their idiocy.

I work with highly paid, apparently intelligent people, who, among other irritating traits, aspirate their aitches and use "them" in place of "these" or "those".

I have advanced my contempt to mere indifference.

Please cbike, in your studies could you PLEASE PLEASE find the origins of somthinK and anythinK and nothinK?
So I can go back in time and reverse it to stop all these people (including, occasionally, my own wife, who spends far too much time around teenagers) sounding like total F7^$*NG IDIOTS.
thanks a lot.

I've never heard this 'brought/bought' thing before. Is it an English thing?

why does being rubbish at english mean that you are stupid?
some would say that this assumption in its self is proof of stupidity.
i might be keen on this view for a reason though 😉

I also HATE the lack of apostrophes used nowadays.

Such as 'Yorkshires Finest Cakes'.

It is possessive you nonce - put a u****ing apostrophe in their*.

* 😉

why does being rubbish at english mean that you are stupid?

It doesn't; it just means you are more likely to originate from The North(tm).

just west of newcastle actually 😆

Yes, nonk. Some would say that calling someone stupid for thinking someone stupid for not being able to speak English properly is the most stupid form of stupid there could possibly be.

😉

If you are English and can't speak English properly then you [i]are[/i] stupid and/or lazy. Simple.

You're / your really winds me up, but I think the something/somefink thing is down to a regional/class accent.

*takes cover*

Has anyone axed you to do this cbike?

im defiantly getting annoyed at the misuse of apostrophe's

Better put this for the slow'uns: 😉

You're / your really winds me up

Yep.

1: "Your stupid"

2: "My stupid what?"

1: "OMG u dont even no wot stupid is. Looser."

2: "Tighter."

1: "wot?"

I guess it's entirely possible that the first actor in this sketch is actually a triple-PhD Oxford professor and chairman of Mensa, but somehow it seems unlikely.

less/fewer and one i heard yesterday talking about military deaths "lesser" most of those within about 4 rows of me heard the expeletives.

[i]but I think the something/somefink thing is down to a regional/class accent.[/i]

Regional/class?? Which one? I live in the south, where people say it and this annoying Liverpulian bloke opposite me says it all the time.
I think it's down to stupity.

so if someone lacks the skills you have that makes them stupid?

Has anyone axed you to do this cbike?

Ah, you're thinking of, inter alia, Chaucer, aren't you, and the recent metathesis of the original variants "aks" and "ask"? 🙂

I've never heard this 'brought/bought' thing before. Is it an English thing?

No, I've seen it used on both UK and US websites, so not just English. However it seems almost unheard of in people with English as a second language, which suggests that English is being taught properly abroad, but not in the UK/US! The aitch/haitch confusion drives me nuts at times.

I would suggest that if someone lacks the necessary skills to communicate correctly in their first language, they certainly show signs of not being very intelligent. Of course some people have specific disabilities such as autism and dyslexia which could give people the impression that they are stupid when, in fact, they have a specific disability which makes communication through the written language sometimes hard to do.

People who do not know the difference between 'brought' and 'bought' or 'their' and 'there' just show signs of stupidity through a lack of ability (or desire) to learn English correctly.

I hate the unnecessary use of punctuation just to emphasise a point !!!!!!!

I see what you did there...

mf
arrogance brought about by the fact that you are english.

People who do not know the difference between 'brought' and 'bought' or 'their' and 'there' just show signs of stupidity through a lack of ability (or desire) to learn English correctly.

And coming from the North.

Musn't forget that.

Hee hee. 😀

so if someone lacks the skills you have that makes them stupid?

When it comes to mother tongues... pretty much, yes.

I hate stupity!

I lived in Liverpool for 8 years and people always ask to "lend" a pen/tenner/other daily object of you. That is really wrong.

[i]The aitch/haitch confusion drives me nuts at times.[/i]

Me too. People are going to start saying feff, mem and woubleyou soon 🙂

arrogance brought about by the fact that you are english.

sorry mf i missed the bit about it being their first language.
i take it back chap.

I must be arrogant too, because what you said, made perfect sense.

Lacking skills in the basics of communication? Yep, stupid.

Apology on a forum shock! Someone borrow* me a chair.

Accepted 🙂

*;-)

I work with many people who, despite being rather inteligent (Ph.D. or above), having varied social class origins and are from different regions of the country, confuse words or are unaware of grammatical errors. I imagine I would too, but both my parents are very literate and I read a lot of books as a child rather than watch television.

I imagine many of the issues being discussed here are the result of improper schooling, lower reading rates, poor grammatical and lexical support amongst family and friends and the all pervasive "dumbing down" of speech presented in the popular media. I doubt TXT speek or 1337 speek help much either. I especially dislike it when students use either of these in work they hand in. All of these problems would appear to be products of the environment we now live in. How to stop the downwards spiral?

Having just read what I have written above it all sounds very pretentious and Victorian. Hey ho 😐 . Smileys get on my goat too.

I ain't purfik neither. Somethings seem to have become ingrained 🙁

confuse words or are unaware of grammatical errors

I *hate* misuse of the reflexive pronoun. Saying "myself" when you mean "me" doesn't make you sound clever, it makes you sound like a telesales person.

don't accept that an intelligent person (certainly not someone educated to Ph.D level) can have any excuse for making grammatical errors or confuse words

Of course they can. They just place less importance on grammar than you do. Since they can still communicate perfectly effectively, who's to say that they're not the more intelligent people than those of us who get annoyed about it despite the fact that it has very little effect.

A bit like some mtbers I know who can't ride without stopping if something is not quite perfect (eg a brake lever isn't quite in line with the other) despite the fact that it's of no real effect.

My point was that intelligent people can make these errors without realising it, albeit not as often as some of the less gifted members of our society. I agree that there is no excuse though, but how do you start to get them to correct their speech when they themselves are unaware?

But why are they making the errors? Why are they not aware? They are still showing signs of stupidity, Ph.D or not, if they are unable to grasp their own language - things they were taught in school. It certainly makes them look stupid.

I do appreciate that some very gifted people have dreadful written skills but they often have the sorts of disabilities I have already mentioned.

They just place less importance on grammar than you do

Stop being so precious you lot.

Can't we get back to baiting thicko oiks?

😀

i think i get my knickers in a twist at the term stupid.
i had a fairly gypo childhood and feel that folks tend to confuse uneducated with stupid.my english is pish but i dont feel it has held me back,perhaps it has with choices of oportunities but other than that it's going ok.
however at 32 years of age it could be said that i should have sorted it by now.

I left school with a grade 5 CSE in English. Everything I have learned since has been from listening, learning, understanding. I could never understand when I should use an apostrophe until a friend explained about possessive/plural. One minute later I understood something that 12 years of school couldn't teach me. How much of that was bad teaching, how much was a new-found desire to actually understand I really don't know.

I'm not sure much of what we are talking about is taught in schools. I certainly wasn't taught it in an active manner until near the end of secondary school, by which time it is too late. Hence my point that maybe they don't realise they are doing it because they have never been taught it and those around them are the same or worse and so it continues.

I don't accept that an intelligent person (certainly not someone educated to Ph.D level) can have any excuse for making grammatical errors or confuse words. If they are able to learn a subject to that level, they are easily capable of learning their first language correctly (assuming, of course, they do not have a language-imparing disability).

While I like to think I have a decent grasp of English and can write a coherent page, I'm fairly sure that I don't know every last rule of grammar and spelling. While writing a technical paper I'd be sure to check everything (though there are multiple areas where there are more than one solution), on a forum post I may lapse a little. Though you can be pretty damn sure I'd accept a kicking if I incorrectly used their/there where/wear/ware etc

I'm the guy that usually gets asked if something is grammatically correct and I reckon I have a pretty good understanding of it.

Despite this, I've never learnt (and actually don't recall it being covered at school) what the difference between "who" and "whom" is. I've never bothered to learn because I reckon if you use the word "whom" you sound like a ponce no matter how grammatically correct you may be 😉

I'm fairly sure that I don't know every last rule of grammar and spelling.

(Another one of my bug-bears - to/too).

'I am going too the shops'.

'May I come to'?

Which is another one - may/can

'Can I lend your rubber'?

'I don't know, can you'?

Two things that annoy me, the use of "I" when "me" ought to be used.
e.g "Do you want to come for a ride with Al and I?"

Use of "which" instead of "that".
e.g. "I bought a new Camelbak which has a 3L bladder."

On the subject of stupidity versus education, in my opinion it is a greater failing to be ignorant through lack of education when you have the ability to correct the deficiency than to be ignorant through stupidity since people are stupid through no fault of their own.

All of these problems would appear to be products of the environment we now live in. How to stop the downwards spiral?

no. way. Hosé.

It's like a backwards Sisyphus where we plummet endlessly downwards yet all still more us less understand each other. At the top was grunting.

'Can I lend your rubber'?
'I don't know, can you'?

Immediately followed by punch to MF 🙂
PS If I borrow you a rubber I don't want it back used thanks...

PS If I borrow you a rubber I don't want it back used thanks...

There and their-annoying but hey I let it go as they could be dyslexic or English is a 3 rd language...

But if it was my child, I'd slap them...

Also I'm studying basic French and I'm making a few mistakes-grass is greener on the other...

But if it was my child, I'd slap them...

I think it's already been established that you are illsuited to parenthood 🙁

Anything that has the incorrect word used in its written description means I won't buy that product/service. I saw a house advertised the other day, a $million+ house and the description had "...with an ore inspiring view.". I emailed the agent and asked what sort of Ore it looked over and he came back to me somewhat confused. I pointed out his error and suggested that if it was my $million+ house with that description I would have lynched him. He hasn't changed it yet as he didn't actually know what the "right" word was. W T F.
Things like that, bought/brought etc all really annoy me. You may be super smart but please use the right words and spell them proper like. And if you don't know where to use the apostrophe then best bet is don't put it in.
Thank you. 😀

All this whinging and no mention of ickle, bockle, hospikle, skelington or chimbly.

This is The North, where we say what we like.

I could care less about all the above points.

Or couldn't I?

👿

As part of my job I have to sanction letters that go out to customers.

My red pen is my best friend.

I am considered anal.

I love my red pen.

🙂

Or couldn't I?

no.

Anything that has the incorrect word used in its written description means I won't buy that product/service

also known as "tilting at windmills" :o)

I haven't read any of these posts except the first couple as I couln't be arsed, but I should of. See what I did there. There are many grammatical errors i.e. too many or two few apostrophes, should "of", brought/bought, lend borrow, i.e./e.g. but the one that really gets on my moobs at the moment is "for free". It's just "free" you 'tards. And 'tards, of course. Merkans, eh?

proof reading the minutes I'd just sent out to the club, I found I'd used 'there' for 'their', oh the shame! Entertainingly, there's no ambiguity when spoken...

I wouldn't worry there SFB, I'm sure no one reads their bike club minutes with so many untidy sock drawers in the country.

What about "of" instead of "have". As in "I should of stuck in at school"

Language change?

This is never going to change until presenters on TV start talking properly. Case in point: Jamie Redknapp.

It wasn't until I learned German that it made me think about English grammar, too. That, and the pedantic tw@s on here.

Yes, I did just use @ instead of 'at'.

L8ters

he's a footballer man give him a break.