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One "r" makes so much difference but I reckon its evolving on the internet to mean the same.

Will I get a grant to study it, ya reckon?


 
Posted : 12/11/2009 2:12 pm
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Why, do you know someone called Grant, or is it just a general see if they'll come out of the woodwork query?


 
Posted : 12/11/2009 2:15 pm
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See also:

Looser vs loser

You're vs your

It's vs its

etc etc etc

The internets is fool of stupid people.


 
Posted : 12/11/2009 2:26 pm
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My mother-in-law gets them mixed up when speaking "I've brought a new coat". Annoys the hell out of me, then again so does she......


 
Posted : 12/11/2009 2:29 pm
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"I've brought a new coat"

From where did you bring it?

From the shop, where I bought it.


 
Posted : 12/11/2009 2:30 pm
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You've been reading my posts haven't you Graham.


 
Posted : 12/11/2009 2:31 pm
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Lend > Borrow.

It has always got on my man-norks.


 
Posted : 12/11/2009 2:38 pm
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It's not so much that the internet is full of idiots, rather that there are the usual idiots who have now found themselves in a position to advertise their idiocy.

I work with highly paid, apparently intelligent people, who, among other irritating traits, aspirate their aitches and use "them" in place of "these" or "those".

I have advanced my contempt to mere indifference.


 
Posted : 12/11/2009 3:12 pm
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Please cbike, in your studies could you PLEASE PLEASE find the origins of somthinK and anythinK and nothinK?
So I can go back in time and reverse it to stop all these people (including, occasionally, my own wife, who spends far too much time around teenagers) sounding like total F7^$*NG IDIOTS.
thanks a lot.


 
Posted : 12/11/2009 3:16 pm
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I've never heard this 'brought/bought' thing before. Is it an English thing?


 
Posted : 12/11/2009 3:28 pm
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why does being rubbish at english mean that you are stupid?
some would say that this assumption in its self is proof of stupidity.
i might be keen on this view for a reason though ๐Ÿ˜‰


 
Posted : 12/11/2009 3:34 pm
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I also HATE the lack of apostrophes used nowadays.

Such as 'Yorkshires Finest Cakes'.

It is possessive you nonce - put a u****ing apostrophe in their*.

* ๐Ÿ˜‰


 
Posted : 12/11/2009 3:36 pm
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why does being rubbish at english mean that you are stupid?

It doesn't; it just means you are more likely to originate from The North(tm).


 
Posted : 12/11/2009 3:39 pm
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just west of newcastle actually ๐Ÿ˜†


 
Posted : 12/11/2009 3:40 pm
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Yes, nonk. Some would say that calling someone stupid for thinking someone stupid for not being able to speak English properly is the most stupid form of stupid there could possibly be.

๐Ÿ˜‰


 
Posted : 12/11/2009 3:42 pm
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If you are English and can't speak English properly then you [i]are[/i] stupid and/or lazy. Simple.

You're / your really winds me up, but I think the something/somefink thing is down to a regional/class accent.

*takes cover*


 
Posted : 12/11/2009 3:50 pm
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Has anyone axed you to do this cbike?


 
Posted : 12/11/2009 3:52 pm
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im defiantly getting annoyed at the misuse of apostrophe's

Better put this for the slow'uns: ๐Ÿ˜‰


 
Posted : 12/11/2009 3:54 pm
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You're / your really winds me up

Yep.

1: "Your stupid"

2: "My stupid what?"

1: "OMG u dont even no wot stupid is. Looser."

2: "Tighter."

1: "wot?"

I guess it's entirely possible that the first actor in this sketch is actually a triple-PhD Oxford professor and chairman of Mensa, but somehow it seems unlikely.


 
Posted : 12/11/2009 3:56 pm
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less/fewer and one i heard yesterday talking about military deaths "lesser" most of those within about 4 rows of me heard the expeletives.


 
Posted : 12/11/2009 3:57 pm
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[i]but I think the something/somefink thing is down to a regional/class accent.[/i]

Regional/class?? Which one? I live in the south, where people say it and this annoying Liverpulian bloke opposite me says it all the time.
I think it's down to stupity.


 
Posted : 12/11/2009 4:14 pm
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so if someone lacks the skills you have that makes them stupid?


 
Posted : 12/11/2009 4:19 pm
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Has anyone axed you to do this cbike?

Ah, you're thinking of, inter alia, Chaucer, aren't you, and the recent metathesis of the original variants "aks" and "ask"? ๐Ÿ™‚


 
Posted : 12/11/2009 4:20 pm
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I've never heard this 'brought/bought' thing before. Is it an English thing?

No, I've seen it used on both UK and US websites, so not just English. However it seems almost unheard of in people with English as a second language, which suggests that English is being taught properly abroad, but not in the UK/US! The aitch/haitch confusion drives me nuts at times.


 
Posted : 12/11/2009 4:20 pm
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I would suggest that if someone lacks the necessary skills to communicate correctly in their first language, they certainly show signs of not being very intelligent. Of course some people have specific disabilities such as autism and dyslexia which could give people the impression that they are stupid when, in fact, they have a specific disability which makes communication through the written language sometimes hard to do.

People who do not know the difference between 'brought' and 'bought' or 'their' and 'there' just show signs of stupidity through a lack of ability (or desire) to learn English correctly.


 
Posted : 12/11/2009 4:24 pm
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I hate the unnecessary use of punctuation just to emphasise a point !!!!!!!


 
Posted : 12/11/2009 4:25 pm
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I see what you did there...


 
Posted : 12/11/2009 4:26 pm
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mf
arrogance brought about by the fact that you are english.


 
Posted : 12/11/2009 4:26 pm
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People who do not know the difference between 'brought' and 'bought' or 'their' and 'there' just show signs of stupidity through a lack of ability (or desire) to learn English correctly.

And coming from the North.

Musn't forget that.

Hee hee. ๐Ÿ˜€


 
Posted : 12/11/2009 4:26 pm
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so if someone lacks the skills you have that makes them stupid?

When it comes to mother tongues... pretty much, yes.


 
Posted : 12/11/2009 4:28 pm
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I hate stupity!

I lived in Liverpool for 8 years and people always ask to "lend" a pen/tenner/other daily object of you. That is really wrong.


 
Posted : 12/11/2009 4:28 pm
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[i]The aitch/haitch confusion drives me nuts at times.[/i]

Me too. People are going to start saying feff, mem and woubleyou soon ๐Ÿ™‚


 
Posted : 12/11/2009 4:29 pm
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arrogance brought about by the fact that you are english.

Sorry? Where is the arrogance? I was simply putting my point of view across about what makes someone stupid or not based on their grasp of their first language. I do not think I was being arrogant in any way whatsoever.


 
Posted : 12/11/2009 4:31 pm
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sorry mf i missed the bit about it being their first language.
i take it back chap.


 
Posted : 12/11/2009 4:35 pm
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I must be arrogant too, because what you said, made perfect sense.

Lacking skills in the basics of communication? Yep, stupid.


 
Posted : 12/11/2009 4:36 pm
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Apology on a forum shock! Someone borrow* me a chair.

Accepted ๐Ÿ™‚

*;-)


 
Posted : 12/11/2009 4:37 pm
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I work with many people who, despite being rather inteligent (Ph.D. or above), having varied social class origins and are from different regions of the country, confuse words or are unaware of grammatical errors. I imagine I would too, but both my parents are very literate and I read a lot of books as a child rather than watch television.

I imagine many of the issues being discussed here are the result of improper schooling, lower reading rates, poor grammatical and lexical support amongst family and friends and the all pervasive "dumbing down" of speech presented in the popular media. I doubt TXT speek or 1337 speek help much either. I especially dislike it when students use either of these in work they hand in. All of these problems would appear to be products of the environment we now live in. How to stop the downwards spiral?

Having just read what I have written above it all sounds very pretentious and Victorian. Hey ho ๐Ÿ˜ . Smileys get on my goat too.

I ain't purfik neither. Somethings seem to have become ingrained ๐Ÿ™


 
Posted : 12/11/2009 4:56 pm
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confuse words or are unaware of grammatical errors

I don't accept that an intelligent person (certainly not someone educated to Ph.D level) can have any excuse for making grammatical errors or confuse words. If they are able to learn a subject to that level, they are easily capable of learning their first language correctly (assuming, of course, they do not have a language-imparing disability).


 
Posted : 12/11/2009 5:03 pm
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I *hate* misuse of the reflexive pronoun. Saying "myself" when you mean "me" doesn't make you sound clever, it makes you sound like a telesales person.


 
Posted : 12/11/2009 5:04 pm
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don't accept that an intelligent person (certainly not someone educated to Ph.D level) can have any excuse for making grammatical errors or confuse words

Of course they can. They just place less importance on grammar than you do. Since they can still communicate perfectly effectively, who's to say that they're not the more intelligent people than those of us who get annoyed about it despite the fact that it has very little effect.

A bit like some mtbers I know who can't ride without stopping if something is not quite perfect (eg a brake lever isn't quite in line with the other) despite the fact that it's of no real effect.


 
Posted : 12/11/2009 5:10 pm
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My point was that intelligent people can make these errors without realising it, albeit not as often as some of the less gifted members of our society. I agree that there is no excuse though, but how do you start to get them to correct their speech when they themselves are unaware?


 
Posted : 12/11/2009 5:16 pm
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But why are they making the errors? Why are they not aware? They are still showing signs of stupidity, Ph.D or not, if they are unable to grasp their own language - things they were taught in school. It certainly makes them look stupid.

I do appreciate that some very gifted people have dreadful written skills but they often have the sorts of disabilities I have already mentioned.

They just place less importance on grammar than you do

That is a very different argument - if they know how to spell, punctuate and use grammar correctly when they need to then fair enough. If they just don't understand it, then they do not have a basic skill they should have learned at school.


 
Posted : 12/11/2009 5:22 pm
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Stop being so precious you lot.

Can't we get back to baiting thicko oiks?

๐Ÿ˜€


 
Posted : 12/11/2009 5:25 pm
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i think i get my knickers in a twist at the term stupid.
i had a fairly gypo childhood and feel that folks tend to confuse uneducated with stupid.my english is pish but i dont feel it has held me back,perhaps it has with choices of oportunities but other than that it's going ok.
however at 32 years of age it could be said that i should have sorted it by now.


 
Posted : 12/11/2009 5:40 pm
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I left school with a grade 5 CSE in English. Everything I have learned since has been from listening, learning, understanding. I could never understand when I should use an apostrophe until a friend explained about possessive/plural. One minute later I understood something that 12 years of school couldn't teach me. How much of that was bad teaching, how much was a new-found desire to actually understand I really don't know.


 
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