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 ton
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after some new brogue shoes.
15yr old Trickers have died, what's good.
or should i bite the bullet and buy some more Trickers.


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 2:40 pm
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Grenson are nice.


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 2:43 pm
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Loakes


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 2:44 pm
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Loake do some nice ones as do churches try here.

http://www.herringshoes.co.uk/


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 2:45 pm
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I'm stylin some brand new Grenson Fred V's in tan.

They are KILLING me right now!!

How long for the leather to stretch!?

They look the shizzle though


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 2:46 pm
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Church are expensive but I dont think they can be beaten. Get the fully lined ones though.

I wouldnt bother with Grenson. Quality isnt great.


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 2:47 pm
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Laughing at MM. They are hurting because you havent worn anything but trainers and flip-flops for 15yrs. Man-child.


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 2:48 pm
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Go Spiv..

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Posted : 18/11/2011 2:49 pm
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bikebouy...........i now feel ill......... 😆


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 2:50 pm
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Laughing at MM. They are hurting because you havent worn anything but trainers and flip-flops for 15yrs. Man-child.

Can't argue with that 😉

Though I have no probs with the quality of the Grensons and they were £200! How much are Churches!? I think of Churches as an old man's shoe (or City boy mcboo).

Perfect for Ton 😉

MM


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 2:52 pm
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I bought some cracking Brogues from Stag in Brick Lane a couple of months ago, I'm not wearing them today and I can't remember for the life of me who made them, but they are THE most comfortable pair of "lace ups" I've worn for years and years..They were handmade mind. Had one fitting before I got them, waited 7weeks.. but hey.

If I could only remember the blinkin name..

What about Nottingham, isn't that the Brogue Shoe capital of the world?

Those shoes I posted above.. well do an interwibble search for the word Brogue.. SOme bloomin awful representations of the brogues I have ever seen.


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 2:59 pm
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Been looking for ones like Grenson for years, nice thick sole. Bravo bravo!


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 3:01 pm
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Grenson - lots of people moaning now production has gone to India....

I like Barker and Loake. I'd have Church's if [url= http://www.edwardsofmanchester.co.uk/?gclid=CNrQ79C5wKwCFUtC4Qodhh5PrA ]Edwards of Manchester[/url] ever had in their sales in my size...

Don't forget Crockett, Sargent, Cheaney, etc....


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 3:02 pm
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What about Nottingham, isn't that the Brogue Shoe capital of the world?

Northampton.


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 3:03 pm
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I have always gone for Jones or Churches depending on how flush I am. Jones have have never let me down.

Had one pair of Loakes which pretty much fell apart within a year, been put off them since. I wouldn't touch Grenson, don't think their quality is what it should be for the price


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 3:06 pm
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Rewski...watch the sizing. They come up quite large.

Went down half a size and now having to MTFU over the pain on top of my instep!


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 3:08 pm
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Barker do the 'creative' range for slightly slimmer modern look and they're rather nice.


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 3:08 pm
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Thanks for the tip MM


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 3:10 pm
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Wearing Church (Lancaster, I think) at the moment. They're 8 years old, still perfect. Expensive though, and took 12 months to be really comfortable.

Loake do some good stuff at decent prices, as do Barker. Sub £200, which for shoes which will last you a decade or more, seems entirely reasonable.

I tried some Tricker's and wasn't massively impressed.


 
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Posted : 18/11/2011 3:33 pm
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Sacre Bleu!!

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Posted : 18/11/2011 3:43 pm
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Try jacksons in mirfield - have their shoes made in Northampton and way cheaper than big name shoe brands, many of which are no longer made in England.

Barnsley indoor market also got a shoe stall who can get loakes for way cheaper than you will get elsewhere. They will also get them sent to you at home for free (they carry all sizes but not all styles)


 
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Oliver Sweeney


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 4:08 pm
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jet26, just looked on the jackson's web link to ebay.........cheap as chip for decent looking shoes.
gonna have a drive over in the morning. cheers for the heads up. 😀


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 4:32 pm
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No stress. Got two pairs of their grained leather brogues - cracking. Fella who has the shop is worth the trip alone!

James


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 4:34 pm
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Church shoes from Herring get my vote

Wait until New year sale or pop to Churchs store at Bicester if don't want to pay full whack


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 4:35 pm
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http://www.hoggs.co.uk/prodcut_details.php?catid=19&product_id=35

I had a couple of pairs of these, super comfy.

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Posted : 18/11/2011 4:49 pm
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Here are my Churchs

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Posted : 18/11/2011 4:54 pm
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+1 for Grenson. Very comfy indeed and great leather.


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 4:55 pm
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Would go for another pair of Trickers personally. Church's are now owned by Prada and apparently aren't what they used to be.


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 5:12 pm
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Take a road trip to Northampton and go round all the factory shops in the area - all the best are there.


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 5:18 pm
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grensons are great, better quality than cheapo brogues but not silly money like churches.
i have 3 pairs about to splurge on a pair of fred's in walnut but with the commando sole as leather (or the thin india rubber i get fitted to the leather sole) is not great on the ice.

i like some of the barkers though.


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 5:20 pm
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ouch! you lot are ****ing loaded!

i'd have to have a big win on the lottery to bother getting a pair of Trickers


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 5:20 pm
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chunky - how much are your riding shoes and trainers? A good pair of leather shoes should last over 10 years if looked after - if not longer.


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 5:22 pm
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i wouldn't go for the single layer sole though, the double is much more comfortable. i have a single layer shoe for summer a size down for thin socks but certainly know if i have been on my feet all day in them.
the double sole sharp boots with a thicker sock for winter are more comfy and a lot more sturdy.


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 5:27 pm
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I like Prada shoes too so not fussed if they own Churchs


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 5:31 pm
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If you want really tough hunt down Scottish ex army shoes. They come ready nailed!


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 5:31 pm
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i generally go though shoes (typical work and causal boots) every two years, so the cost is typically £40pa not including resoling etc.

i'd like a pair of Trickers Maltons but at £340 a pair they definitely would have to last ten years

riding shoes however are a different matter, typically mine only last around one year


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 5:52 pm
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I had some loverly Church brogues along with several other pairs of Church shoes but in between moving I left them around my mums house for storage and she gave them to charity 🙁 Glad I never paid full price for any of them.


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 5:57 pm
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Loake do some good stuff at decent prices, as do Barker. Sub £200, which for shoes which will last you a decade or more, seems entirely reasonable.

For £200 I'd expect them to last a hell of a lot longer than that. I've had trainers last nearly ten years, and I still wear boots I bought twenty years ago.


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 6:31 pm
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Grensons are OK - but Crockett & Jones are better.

Current shoes I have, Churchs (23 years old - got married in them), Grenson (15 years old - now a bit rough). C&J 2 pairs 8 years or so old. Killed 2 pairs of Grensons in the last 20 years.

I usually make a pair of Brogues last about 10 years, wearing alternate days - resoled twice perhaps.


 
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My old mum lives in the town where Grenson's factory is located (my Dad was born in the same street as the factory site). Unfortunately their factory shop is no more so last time I was back I ventured a few miles and picked up a lovely pair of Barker brogues for £100 from their factory.


 
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I've had a pair of Barkers for about 9 months but just had to get the sole replaced which I've never needed to before, that said much better fit than Loakes or churches for me and the uppers on Loakes have always been the weak point for me. Got a very good deal and excellent service from boson shoes on line.

What I really want is a pair of Lobbs, fair enough they're 2 grand but custom made by hand and basically will last the rest of my life might really splurge for my 40 th next year to go with the Huntsman suit I'm getting 🙂 and best of all with my new limited company tax deductible !


 
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For £200 I'd expect them to last a hell of a lot longer than that. I've had trainers last nearly ten years, and I still wear boots I bought twenty years ago.

except trainers will look tatty very quickly and are not exactly smart. do you really expect a pair of £100 trainers to last 10 years? the sole will wear away but last time i looked you couldn't resole them.
brogues when worn in and 'aged' just look even better unlike 'plimsoles'.
even ordinary shoes are £60-£120 but don't have the goodyear welt that makes them resolable, so £200 is good VFM.

when you get to 'middle age' good leather shoes make all the difference, doesn't matter how smart the top half looks if the shoes are shite plus brouges go with jeans far better than trainers go with suits 🙂


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 6:50 pm
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Yup, I'm a brogues fan. You can stick yer pointy or flat-end shoes where the sun don't shine. 😉


 
Posted : 18/11/2011 6:55 pm
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I'm just bringing this up again cos' I've just looked at the make of Brogues I bought from Stag..

It's boot time so bare with them..but.. they're Wolverine's.

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Posted : 23/11/2011 6:32 pm
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I've been very pleased with my Kurt Geiger Dallas boots if you fancy something different
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Had Loake in the past, and the quality/fit has gone down. Jones are normally pretty good. Otherwise Barkers.


 
Posted : 23/11/2011 8:34 pm
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Ton, been in the footwear business 25 years now, IMO the only footwear that would compare to Trickers would be Alfred Sargeant.
Many styles built on many different lasts. Customer service second to none.


 
Posted : 23/11/2011 8:45 pm
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he is the shnizzle [img] [/img] 😀


 
Posted : 23/11/2011 8:49 pm
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Had to check in the wardrobe as I don't have much call to wear shoes these days. 😉

Two pairs of Loakes, brogues and plain, at least 15 years old and look better than the day they were bought. I don't expect to have to buy an other pair of shoes like this.


 
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Come to Northampton on a Saturday. You can hit the factory shops of Church's, Crockett and Jones, Cheaneys and Trickers all in a morning. If you want to go large, Lobbs are here too. Personally I don't rate Barkers and I reckon Church designs are better than the (f expensive) Trickers.


 
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I bought some Bertie Braxton earlier in the year and I like them. Not the same quality as the above mentioned items but also not the same price (they are made in India).

Not sure about the leather sole being very robust long term and I already need the heel replaced... I'll see what a cobbler thinks. For the next 4 months I need a winter shoe/boot with more grip and some warmth anyway so the Berties will be on light duties only.

I love the look of Brogies so I'm tempted to "invest" in some of the above mentioned ones with a more robust sole... hmmm, I do like the Trickers with Vibram 🙄


 
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Get some Churches if you have no imagination, want to be wearing the same thing as everyone else in your office and don't intent to change your shoes for the next 15 years.

Loakes are better value (which means you can change them more often), but beware, some of their models/range are no longer made in the UK (now produced in India), and the quality has suffered. After years of selling Loakes and rarely having an issue, my uncle's shop has seen lots coming back, predominantly the ones with "Made in India" under the tongue.

Grenson are nice, a bit more individual than the Church brigade, reasonably priced. They just don't seem to fit me for some reason though.

Trickers are nice, but I struggle to find a pair that are suitable for work that don't inevitably end up looking exactly like Churches.

These days, I tend to shop around for a few pairs of cheaper, and slightly more modern shoes. It means they withstand the winter weather better (only wearing each pair once every few days), it makes me look like I actually own more than one pair of shoes (which doesn't seem to be the case with everyone in my office who wears Churches), and it's nice to have a mix of shoes which look good with a variety of suits and get ups. I've got a pair of Loakes and Grensons which get the most use at the moment.


 
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For funky brogues see [url= http://www.jeffrey-west.co.uk/jefferywest/collection.asp ]Jeffrey West[/url] 8)
I like the fit of Loakes but agree quality is not as high as it used to be - does depend on which styles though, some are still made in Northampton.


 
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Now where's that thread about "Im more middle case than you beacause..."

Only pulling your legs...

I clinked in because a pair of brogues are on my Xmas list, togehter with a blazer.


 
Posted : 24/11/2011 10:38 am
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Anyway 'cheap' online to buy Church's?


 
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DON'T buy Samuel Windsors. There's a reason why they are cheap.

It's back to Loakes for me next time.

This is a fascinating website for anybody seriously into shoes: [url= http://www.shoerepairer.info/bb3/index.php ]Shoe Repairer[/url]


 
Posted : 25/11/2011 8:51 am
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Seriously - there were some on the classifieds yesterday.. £280! Seriously? For a pair of bloody SHOES? Apparently the retail would've been [b]£450[/b]! Only for Aston Martin drivers surely? I was stunned. WhY??
[url= http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/fs-churchs-shoes-comic-book-lee-denim-jacket-shirt-ds-games#post-3205561 ]here[/url]
😯


 
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http://www.duckerandson.co.uk/


 
Posted : 25/11/2011 9:01 am
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No offence to the lister but size7. Any 'sale' of this type tends to have such odd sizes in as average blokes tend to sell out don't they. Plus they arent the nice ones!


 
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i know, you could buy a car for that!


 
Posted : 25/11/2011 9:05 am
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i bought new trickers in the end.
£250 which is a lot of money.
my last pair lasted 15 yr, if they new ones last the same, well less than £20 a year is pretty good value i reckon.


 
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Here's a question for you - what shoe polish are people using for their brogues? I made the mistake of using a dark tan on my Grensons and don't like the colour it turned them. Might try a clear polish from now on (on new ones).


 
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I'm coveting a pair of Lobbs but at upwards of £650 a pair, I dont think thats ever happening. Anyone know if they are really all that better than say the more expensive end of Church? I've got a pair of their cheaper City range (half lined brogues) which are OK, some much older fully lined ones that I have had for 10yrs and still look great and some brown unlined loafers for the summer which are tremendous. I'm struggling to find a reason to go elsewhere but I'm a tart.

I hadnt heard of Trickers, look nice.....


 
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I went to get my Berties re-heeled and ended up buying some Joseph Cheaney as they fit beautifully. They have a big chunky sole for the upcoming snow and wet season walk to work :mrgreen:


 
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The Grenson Rushden range offer a great selection of classically styled brogues. The Archie and Stanley [url= http://www.philipbrownemenswear.co.uk/Brand/Grenson.aspx?p=1&v=1 ]Grenson brogues[/url] look the part. Grenson's after care is good too, mine came back looking new again. I've been tempted by a vibram sole this summer too.
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Spam, and they're ugly as ****.


 
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Church's. Mine are 18yrs old but are due a "service" come to think of it.

Ah spam. 👿


 
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I'm doubly sure I'm never buying Grenson again because they are a bit rubbish and overpriced and that spamming is hideous.


 
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I'm doubly sure I'm never buying Grenson again because they are a bit rubbish and overpriced and that spamming is hideous.

^Agreed^


 
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I'd rather wear spam on my feet than those monstrosities..!

I am, in fact, wearing a pair of Loake oxfords I've recently revived. I've just enough pairs of shoes not to wreck them all quite so much any more. Another couple of pairs should see me right.


 
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