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Its where almost all european governments have been since the wart.


 
Posted : 20/12/2024 8:40 pm
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Can't they get a cream for that?


 
Posted : 20/12/2024 10:09 pm
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https://the5krunner.com/2024/12/20/garmin-varia-light-ban-extended-in-eu/

Might have actually found one.


 
Posted : 21/12/2024 10:08 am
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Almost all bike lights including these are actually illegal in the UK as well.  You must have a steady rear light that meets the relevant standards.  almost impossible to find


 
Posted : 21/12/2024 10:27 am
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You guys do realise we have still not completed the process of leaving.  We have not implemented the import checks needed under the various agreements made - a very damaging thing.  Until we have done this the EU will not discuss any changes to the withdrawal agreement.  So for all Starmers warm words nothing will change until its got a lot worse by introducing these checks


 
Posted : 21/12/2024 10:31 am
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A 2005 amendment to The Road Vehicles Lighting (Amendment) Regulations made using flashing lights on a bicycle in the UK legal.


 
Posted : 21/12/2024 10:34 am
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A rear lamp showing a red light, positioned between 35cm and 150cm from the ground, facing rearwards. If capable of emitting only a flashing light, it must emit at least four candela. If capable of emitting a steady light, it must comply to BS3648, or BS6102/3 standards

https://www.bikeradar.com/features/bike-light-laws-in-the-uk-what-you-need-to-know

Not quite as I thought.  Thanks for the clarification


 
Posted : 21/12/2024 10:39 am
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Almost all bike lights including these are actually illegal in the UK as well. You must have a steady rear light that meets the relevant standards. almost impossible to find

This isn't quite right.

The requirement for a steady light was dropped years ago, flashing lights fixed to the bike front and back as the only lighting are perfectly legal. However, if your flashing light is capable of also producing a steady light then this must comply with BS-something which almost all don't as you say.

Perversely, most modern lights fail the BS standard because they're too good, legislation has not kept up with technology (I know, I was shocked too). If you had an Ever Ready lamp from the 1970s that took one of those batteries the size of a Nori brick you'd probably be golden. 🙂


 
Posted : 21/12/2024 10:45 am
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Damn it, you lot type faster than I do!


 
Posted : 21/12/2024 10:46 am
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France has decided to follow Germany , it’s not currently an EU dictate.


 
Posted : 21/12/2024 10:47 am
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I did wonder why I got a really good price on my varia rear camera from Germany thou:-)

I did notice the numbers were different but I’d not took much notice.


 
Posted : 21/12/2024 11:02 am
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Rapprochement with the EU would be overwhelmingly to the benefit of the UK population particularly the NI population

Sure but we voted to leave. So fantasy politics aside, perhaps siding with what British people said they want will do more for his terrible poll rating?


 
Posted : 21/12/2024 11:51 am
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the british people have said they want back in!  NI folk are strongly in favour of the windsor agreement and being in the EU.  Its the unionists acting against the interests of the people here.  Being honest about brexit might well gain him more .

Still we haven't yet seen his response to this bit of deliberate wrecking action from the unionists


 
Posted : 21/12/2024 12:03 pm
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the british people have said they want back in!

Was there another referendum that I missed? None of my Brexit UK mates have changed their minds and would vote leave tomorrow. They're suspicious of Starmer's moves towards the EU.


 
Posted : 21/12/2024 12:27 pm
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Polling consistently shows a large majori8ty for return and even brexiteer voters have accepted SM and CU as necessary.

the point of this tho is this is purely a wrecking action from the NI unionists.  Its a labeling requirement that NI need to adhere to because of the windsor agreement.  The only products that will not be labeled in the way the EU want are those which are only sold in the UK.  Any company that sells into the EU will need to adhere to that labeling requirement.  so its a very small number of products that will need this extra labeling to sell in NI but not in the remainder of the UK

Its purely wrecking action from the unionists


 
Posted : 21/12/2024 12:35 pm
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the british people have said they want back in!

Some of them have.

There is still a narrative that "reversing" - ie, doing something different - would be undemocratic. People who want back in have been convinced that to do so would be a betrayal of what passes for a political system here. Credit where it's due, Leave.EU and their supporting cast really did a bang-up job of pulling the wool over the nob of the UK public.


 
Posted : 21/12/2024 12:39 pm
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I've found a Brexit benefit!!!!!!

Pre covid and Brexit we regularly took Bert to France on his blue passport. The only expiry was his rabies shot that needed doing every 3 years but the passport was endless unless it was filled up with 'stamps'

Nowadays he needs an animal health certificate to travel - in this case its12 pages in Dutch (first port of entry) and the total bill with a rabies injection was £200+. It only lasts 4 months.

I know cheaper alternatives can be issued at local exit ports but I don't want the hassle. So the benefit is my vet gets extra work than they had previously.

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Posted : 21/12/2024 12:41 pm
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cougar - and Starmer is complicit in that with his constant lies and gaslighting.  " no economic case for return" *rolleyes*


 
Posted : 21/12/2024 12:44 pm
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You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.


 
Posted : 21/12/2024 12:48 pm
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We have a government that wants closer ties with the rest of Europe. At this point there is no point asking for more than is possible. So keep working on convergence (yeah, like readable warnings on chemicals) and tear up plans for divergence (the USA isn't going to reward us for doing so anyway). Politicians need to sell that convergence without having to spend all their time batting off cries of "betrayal", so leave any questions of "membership" or "joining" anything for another time, when it might be possible. For now, align, and be cooperative, it's in everyone's interest.


 
Posted : 21/12/2024 12:54 pm
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You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

Gaslighting is a colloquialism, defined as manipulating someone into questioning their own perception of reality. The expression, which derives from the title of the 1944 film Gaslight, became popular in the mid-2010s. Merriam-Webster cites deception of one's memory, perception of reality, or mental stability.

Is exactly how I mean it and what Starmer is doing.  He is constantly making false claims about brexit like " no economic case for rejoin"  He says he wants a closer relationship then snubs every overture and is highly offensive to the EU in doing so.  He is claiming to be one thing and doing the opposite.  Its a clear attempt to alter folks perception of reality.


 
Posted : 21/12/2024 2:23 pm
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For now, align, and be cooperative, it’s in everyone’s interest.

I agree.  Unfortunately that is NOT what Starmer is doing.  Its what he is saying he is doing ( partly anyway) but his actions are very different.


 
Posted : 21/12/2024 2:29 pm
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Brexiter and mate are exclusive.


 
Posted : 21/12/2024 3:43 pm
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No, they aren’t. ?


 
Posted : 21/12/2024 3:52 pm
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the British people have said they want back in!

About 50%ish

Some of them have.

As above, but I believe only 17% or so are happy with Brexit as it is


 
Posted : 21/12/2024 4:06 pm
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Hmmm you should try getting a pet passport  issued for your dog next time you’re in Spain, I think France is finicky over wanting a French address.

It doesn’t make all the problems disappear as you need to have the rabies shots done in the EU but if you can work the times in your holidays this could save you a fair bit.

E.U pet passport is valid in U.K.

It's still possible to get a pet passport in Europe, because it's nothing to do with nationality, it's only a record of rabies vaccination status. France is more difficult than other countries because they also have to be registered on the microchip database, and that creates additional hoops to jump through.


 
Posted : 21/12/2024 5:51 pm
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Meanwhile, over in Cloud Cuckoo Land, the Sun is launching a "save brexit" campaign.

https://leftfootforward.org/2024/12/the-suns-dont-betray-brexit-campaign-mocked/

The EU has "secret plans" apparently. How this supposedly affects us now we've left I cannot fathom.


 
Posted : 21/12/2024 6:49 pm
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Save the precious,they is wanting to take the precious away from us 🙂


 
Posted : 21/12/2024 6:54 pm
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I’m not sure why they have such a reluctance over making amendments to the deal, and something small like getting the U.K. pet passport recognised is hardly a biggy but makes peoples lives easier and letting the kids having a taste of what we had isn’t a big deal, although unfair on people over 30.


 
Posted : 21/12/2024 7:04 pm
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I’m not sure why they have such a reluctance over making amendments to the deal

1) Because the UK is in breach of the withdrawal agreement and has not implemented everything needed yet ( the most damaging import controls)  The EU has made it clear nothing will be discussed until we are no longer in breech.  The UK is being taken to court for this
2) disgusting treatment of EU citizens in the UK - you guessed it - in breach of the withdrawal agreement.  We have been deporting folk with the right to stay
3) Starmers duplicity has annoyed the EU folk that need to sign off any deal.  refusing the young folk movement scheme was a real slap in the face to the EU folk that set it up just for the UK

4) Starmers attempts to do one on one deals in breach of EU law


 
Posted : 21/12/2024 7:14 pm
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TBH I was thinking about the Sun, U.K. has no interest in making life easy for its citizens as that would be seen as betraying Brexit and as you say the E.U aren’t interested as the U.K. haven’t honoured their side of the agreement.

The whole WA was a farce in protecting the rights of the U.K. citizens already in EU as we lost our rights of freedom of movement and I’m still in limbo awaiting my residency and I’m not the only one.


 
Posted : 22/12/2024 10:02 am
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William Keegan writing in the observer (he is a right winger and has until now backed the "brexit is brexit" position and praised Starmers position).  Even he has changed his tune

For the UK it becomes more and more obvious that we should be better protected within the European trading tent than outside it. The economic damage wrought by Brexit is now so manifest that recent surveys indicate that a majority of electors would like us to rejoin the customs union and the single market.

We need to join them; but, despite Starmer’s emphasis on better relations with the EU, his, and his chancellor’s, stubborn refusal to countenance rejoining the customs union and the single market leave his negotiating team with both hands tied behind their backs.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/dec/22/faced-with-trump-and-farage-britains-natural-ally-is-europe


 
Posted : 22/12/2024 10:10 am
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TBH I was thinking about the Sun

Brexit is a cult effectively - one organised by and  for grifters.  The sun is owned by folk who want brexit for their own "disruptive" reasons and who want reduced workers rights.  the Sun is just a propaganda organ for these folk.  they need to keep the cult alive by inventing fake stories


 
Posted : 22/12/2024 10:13 am
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Brexit is a cult effectively

It's certainly espoused by cults.


 
Posted : 22/12/2024 11:26 am
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Damn you, autocorrect.


 
Posted : 22/12/2024 11:27 am
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Including Starmer?

* runs away*


 
Posted : 22/12/2024 11:27 am
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The whole WA was a farce in protecting the rights of the U.K. citizens already in EU as we lost our rights of freedom of movement and I’m still in limbo awaiting my residency and I’m not the only one.

think yourself lucky!  EU citizens in the UK in your position are being deported


 
Posted : 22/12/2024 11:30 am
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TBH the cases I’ve seen in the U.K. were people who had left the U.K.  without settled status and attempted a return and ran into Border Farce.

Leaving Spain with an ongoing residency application is treated as you not wanting to continue the application so if I did what they had done I’d likely be in a world of pain as they request copies of every page of your passport and stamps in mine would have nullified my application.

It’s wrong but it’s not only the U.K. messing about with peoples lives with bureaucratic games 🙁


 
Posted : 22/12/2024 12:58 pm
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Mogrim – where are the extremists in Scotland?  PR government remember?

According to many FB posts I see, in power 🙂


 
Posted : 22/12/2024 2:04 pm
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We need to join them; but, despite Starmer’s emphasis on better relations with the EU, his, and his chancellor’s, stubborn refusal to countenance rejoining the customs union and the single market leave his negotiating team with both hands tied behind their backs.

This is the thing I find really frustrating. It's obvious that better trading relations with the EU are needed and this conversation has to start sometime with the electorate and it's going to have to be Starmer who starts it . If economic growth is the target an easier way to trade with the big continent right next to you is surely an obvious choice .

Starmer knows this , the Tories know this ...I'll bet even Farage knows this but Starmer needs to be brave enough to actually start telling people .


 
Posted : 22/12/2024 8:06 pm
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Yup, that would be brave… the betrayal narrative would see Labour back in opposition at the next possible opportunity. The country needs to get closer to Europe before it is ready to integrate back in with it (and that’s on both a practical and political level). If you can’t stabilise and align now, there is little point selling integration to the voters. Do what needs doing first before starting all the psychodrama of campaigning to be in the single market and customs union.

Even with the baby steps that Starmer is taking to rebuild relationships, the media are out to paint him as “never in the country” (how dare he meet with his international counterparts) and “selling us out” (talking to the EU President, who does he think he is, our Prime Minister?!?)

Oh, and when SM and/or CU do become possible, and are a live issue again, Starmer will be long gone. It’s going to be a decade away. The “wake up tomorrow and find it was all a dream” scenario is nonsense… it’s a long boring slog ahead for the UK… Brexit stinks… but there is no quick fix, which is why we should never have left the way we did. But hey.


 
Posted : 22/12/2024 8:37 pm
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Balderdash Kevin.  You have been successfully gaslit

Why would a policy backed by 60 plus % of the uk cause a election loss.  Why would a policy that gave immediate postive economic effects cause an election loss?


 
Posted : 22/12/2024 8:44 pm
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Because wanting something and it being available are not the same thing.

See people voting for that brighter future by leaving the EU. Who cares if 52% of the people wanted it, or 99%, it was never available.

First we have to align with the EU and defuse the political climate. We can’t jump from where we are to being inside the SM or CU, the groundwork needs laying. And that is going to take a long time.


 
Posted : 22/12/2024 8:47 pm
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full return will take time .  Rapprochement is possible if starmer stops lying and actually does what he says he is doing.

An associate deal like Norway Switzerland or turkey has always been available.   Starmer by refusing the 4 freedoms has ruled this out.

The only real obstacle here is Starmers insistance on the hardest of hard Brexit.


 
Posted : 22/12/2024 8:58 pm
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On elections, Labour being painted as “choosing foreigners over Brits” is exactly the fuel needed for Reform to take seats off Labour across huge areas of the UK. Remember, demographics and geographic spread mean that national vote share (and national polling on the issue of Europe) don’t tell you everything.


 
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