The Kent Acces Permit is a bit wordy
The Kermit sounds better & it’s a tribute to froggy face Farage!
Kent Road Access Permit or just Krap
Utterly surreal times. I wouldn't be shocked to hear an asteroid is hurtling towards us now. Extinction level event stuff.
Absolutely anything is possible.
Did y see Gove blame labour when asked by the BBC why the govt are pressing ahead with all this bollox in the middle of a pandemic. Putrid slime
I’m sure that when we crash out on No Deal on January 1st, Gove’s Kent Access Permit masterplan will all run like clockwork and we’ll all appreciate his genius.
This doesn’t have ‘back of a fag packet’ written all over it at all
What could possibly go wrong?
If the public are panic buying now, wait until there's some genuine shortages in the new year while Gove personally issues these KRAP permits.
And I'm presuming these permits just dissipate the queue of trucks around the SE of England so that on January 2nd there's not TV screens full of a stationary motorway?
From January most lorries are going to be based in Kent, whether they like it or not.
And I’m presuming these permits just dissipate the queue of trucks around the SE of England
Apparently so.
https://twitter.com/pmdfoster/status/1308874167106891777
the first words in my mind were Monkey Tennis.
More like 'Eat my cheese, you mother!' as something smelly and unpleasant is shoved in our faces.
At least we're swapping the CAP for the KAP.
Patriotic Man man of Kent here. The Union flat is coming down tonight tho be replaced with the new Democratic Republic of Kent flag.
I was born in the county - can I be repatriated while your application to rejoin the EU goes through?
Will there be satellite lorry parks around Kent for drivers unable to get into Kent. Where will that end?
Tories are frantically coming up with a plan to divert the lorry queues into labour or even SNP voting areas, obviously not London, so we re left with Manchester, Liverpool and probably Blackford's constituency: Ross lochaber & Skye. You heard it here first
Will there be satellite lorry parks around Kent for drivers unable to get into Kent. Where will that end?
Endless convoy of trucks circling the M25, Snowpiercer style, as the post-Covid/Brexit apocalypse rages around them.
Where will that end?
My only hope is that some truckers decide that parliament Street is a perfect spot for a few days of queueing.
Brexit really is an alternative reality, isn't it?
Whats truly staggering is that when slippery little shit Michael Gove is delivering the news, straight-faced, that one part of the English mainland is essentially going to become a separate customs territory, at enormous expense (i mean, seriously.. how the * do they plan to enforce this?), at no point has the thought entered his head that this is an unmitigated disaster that is all utterly and completely pointless. And that this lunacy is all the fault of him, Johnson and Cummings
The mental gymnastics required in these idiots to justify all this utterly self-defeating, foot-shooting nonsense to themselves is truly incredible to behold.
They don't even seem to register how mad they sound when they're communicating insanity like this to more rational people.
You feel like giving him a good slap and saying 'FFS!! Have you listened to yourself, you *ing numpty?!"
A good editorial in this mornings Guardian:
The Guardian view on new Brexit borders: the price of political fraud
The only staggering bit is that some people still believe that it will all be ok and worthwhile, Michael Gove not taking responsibility for it is defacto policy of this govt.
Everything else could have been carved in stone in 2016 it was so predictable.
- Apparently you cant have a equivalent single market access without being in the single market - it seems single markets are not in fact dual markets after all.
- It turns out 500+ million people in Europe don't need our trade as much as the 60m people here need theirs.
- The german car industry isn't actually that worried that their cars might be a bit more expensive, since virtually all cars will be a bit more expensive.
- The french wine industry doesn't think that we'll all suddenly start drinking home-brewed hooch and real ale.
- It seems that if you erect a tax and legal border, you need an actual border.
- NI is still a political hot potato.
... Its a never ending list of project fear bloody obvious.
Who knew?
Can’t we as a country just stay in the EU, but have borders round prominent brexiteers houses prison cells?
Is the break up the USSR a clue as to where all this will end? Looking at russian and how "publicly owned" assets were bought on the cheap at the end of the USSR. Is that a template they are trying to engineer with brexit?
thats probably a fair comparison (and pretty scary)
It sounds a bit tinfoil-hattish but I actually think there could be some truth in that.
The amount of dodgy Russian money that's flooded into London/the Tory party coffers must be for a reason.
I'm increasingly coming round to the view that Johnson / Gove / Cummings are about to be jettisoned by the Tories. They were an election asset to get their landslide and they are now becoming increasingly obvious liabilities. Quite simply, the government is bleeding its authority to govern away.
No matter about the profiteering by disaster capitalists, the UK is looking like it will be a highly unstable country re supply chains, import / export difficulties, international reputational damage etc. That is going to harm investment and the ability to simply transact business. Powerful interests are not going to be happy.
I'm sure the Tory hierarchy are astute enough to know that if they lose business and middle class support they are consigned to the political wilderness. They know they cannot deliver what was promised to people who would otherwise have voted Brexit / UKIP. There will be no £350 million for the NHS. Once that penny drops those voters will desert them again. Who will they be left with?
Johnson / Gove etc increasingly look like they are no longer even making a serious effort to pretend that this is workable. The disastrous handling of the pandemic hasn't helped. The Tories know they are losing business support. Remember Johnsons "F*ck business" comment?
Gove is forever tainted by this. He will go along with the rest of the present junta. There's some obvious positioning by the likes of Jeremy Hunt. I do not think Brexit will be reversed but I believe they will be metaphorically be asked to go into a room alone with a pistol in the very near future.
I do not think this would have happened if not for the mismanagement of the pandemic. It really does feel like the essential fabric of British society has been undermined by their ineptitude.
I’m sure the Tory hierarchy are astute enough to know that if they lose business and middle class support they are consigned to the political wilderness.
THEY ARE GONE. The Tory Party has been hollowed out. Have you been asleep for 4+ years?
Once that penny drops those voters will desert them again.
More big lies. More big vague promises (that will evaporate between elections). Keep up the confusion. Keep ruling via hints more than declarations. It's worked for decades now in Russia and other countries, why do you think it won't work here? Because the British voters are more astute?
Yip. The last vestiges of the organisation formally known as the Conservative Party were cleared out in December last year. The parasite has know taken over complete ownership of the host.
Cummings, Johnson and Gove couldn't give a flying **** about destroying the Tory party, or anything else for that matter. This is a bank job. Once they've taken their wrecking ball to everything in January they'll be gone.
The Tory party, like everything else, will just be collateral damage
I share your anger and frustration Kelvin. However, my thinking is premised on Johnson / Cummings going. The heave would only happen if the Tory party conclude new management is needed and a new strategy adopted. They would have to justify that to the electorate so the messaging would have to change.
The messaging is changing all the time... they are sending out multiple "no10 source" messages that contradict each other to see what sticks. This is the game now... sow misinformation and confusion... and make sure that the damaging effects of that hit their opponents as much as themselves. Come the next election, it'll be "you can only trust us to fix this mess, not them"... just as it was at the last election... except it'll be a different mess entirely of their own making. This isn't the Conservative party, and by the next election, it won't have been for a decade. Trust in politicians will be at an all time low by the next election, but this mob will make sure that they are still trusted more than anyone else... mark my words... they know how to set the narrative, even if they haven't a clue (or the intention) of running a country successfully for its inhabitants.
Obviously they're going to have to give the impression of re-branding once the shit hits the fan. A few useful idiots will be jettisoned to make their fortunes elsewhere, and the new, caring, Tory party will emerge to start the long con all over again.
Ok I would genuinely be interested in your thoughts.
4 years from now infrastructure has collapsed. There is no deal with the EU. There is no deal with the US. Scotland is on the verge of independence and NI is organising a border poll. Public services are non existent. Unemployment has skyrocketed. Shady Russians have bought up most of the public infrastructure which had to be sold off to avoid the economy collapsing entirely. Those in employment have seen their wages in real terms demolished as you now have to pay for things which were previously publicly funded. Employment and consumer rights are non existent. The legal remedy of juidicial review is gone so the state can virtually act as it pleases.
Are you seriously telling me the British population is so stupid it won't consign those in charge of all this to the political wilderness?
Are you seriously telling me the British population is so stupid it won’t consign those in charge of all this to the political wilderness?
Can you not think of a couple of recent examples of the British electorate failing to act in its own best interests? The Tories are already setting up the blame game for the failure of Brexit - nasty EU, nasty remainer gloomsters, unprecedented pandemic etc etc. Plenty of gullible idiots out there will fall for it, same way they fell for stuff written on the side of a bus or lies spouted on their Facebook feed.
Yes, it's possible that the Tories will be chucked out for a term or two, but I wouldn't stake what's left of my savings on it.
@martinhutch the examples are obvious. However, those were the halcyon days before the lies were exposed one after the other. The GE demonstrated there hasn't been much change but surely the calamity Brexit is turning into would finally lift the mist form enough people's eyes?
Perhaps I'm being naive.
My final hope is they are booted out for 8 - 10 years which may give enough time to deal with some of their mess.
In the short term I'm hoping the Queen will be advised not to give Royal assent to the Internal Markets Bill which could trigger a heave on Johnson / Cummings.
However, those were the halcyon days before the lies were exposed one after the other. The GE demonstrated there hasn’t been much change but surely the calamity Brexit is turning into would finally lift the mist form enough people’s eyes?
Perhaps I’m being naive.
I have learned not to have excessive faith in the ability of the great British public to recognise when they are being royally ****ed, or at least not in their ability to spot who is doing the ****ing.
Queen withholding Royal Assent? People said that about other Brexit legislation. Not gonna happen.
Are you seriously telling me the British population is so stupid it won’t consign those in charge of all this to the political wilderness?
I think it is very unlikely that they will... of course, they can be convinced that they are, and still vote for the same people... a change of leader, a few fresh big lies and big promises... BOOM!
There will be a project of disenfranchisement and gerrymandering before the next election, don't forget to take that into account. It's why I begged Conservative supporters to vote tactically to try and reduce their majority... this mob have years to embed change that'll make them harder to shift than ever before.
The Queen would have to be advised that the Internal markets Bill would make the breakup of the UK almost inevitable. If she gives assent she's basically saying she couldn't care less.
Are you seriously telling me the British population is so stupid it won’t consign those in charge of all this to the political wilderness?
Will there be the opportunity in 4 years time? Observe the Trump endgame where he is now openly admitting that he is going to rig the election.
She can’t and won’t do that. Our head of state is not a political post.
In the short term I’m hoping the Queen will be advised not to give Royal assent to the Internal Markets Bill which could trigger a heave on Johnson / Cummings.
It would dynamite the entire British constitution, and she knows that. Not gonna happen.
Imagine having those two stood in front of you and only one bullet left?
Thats a tough call
Are you seriously telling me the British population is so stupid it won’t consign those in charge of all this to the political wilderness?
Read Youtube comments to have a look outside of bubbles.
And these are the ones that can actually be bothered to comment. Most of the population are more worried about Getting It Done, ‘countering‘/cancelling the Bolshevik Broadcasting Commies (BBC), processing/deporting immigrants and scaring off The Ghost Of Corbyn Past so that it doesn’t threaten the NoPlan = ‘Dunkirk Spirit’. Nationalism/blind patriotism always triumphs because There’ll Always Be An England. Come what may. ‘We’ll survive’. ‘Foreigners/traitors made this happen‘ Etc. Etc. Etc. You really need to understand these ‘emotions’ if you want to understand the English today.
Imagine having those two stood in front of you and only one bullet left?
Thats a tough call
Gove in front, Trump behind, aim for the throat at an upwards 15 degree angle. As long as it's not a shitty .22lr it'll be reet.
In the short term I’m hoping the Queen will be advised not to give Royal assent to the Internal Markets Bill which could trigger a heave on Johnson / Cummings.
Would have been a lot more useful if she could have over-ruled Article 50 or Withdrawal Agreement before it got to this stage but as mentioned, it's a tick box exercise, the Monarchy is apolitical.
That local resident in Ashford in clip above re lorry parks:
"We don't know when they're gonna be gone..."
Don't worry as soon as Brexit gets done, these huge lorry parks will be broken up and the area returned to nature. There won't be any trace. You have Gove's word
An encapsulation of the Kent lorry park ‘discussion’ outside of the STW forum loony lefties in lycra echo-chamber:
Realise that I gave up on the UK long ago, but there’s yet still a part of my tinfoil hat actually hoping that the vast bulk of such ‘comments‘ are simply C*mming-bots/political propaganda designed to flood social media in order to normalise the previously unthinkable/put a brick in the Overton Window.
Sadly, I suspect that most of the comments are from real people (with real effluent between real ears)
Imagine having to choose...
Would have been a lot more useful if she could have over-ruled Article 50 or Withdrawal Agreement before it got to this stage but as mentioned, it’s a tick box exercise, the Monarchy is apolitical.
And if we're talking about ceremonial powers, would have been more useful for her to behead Boris in Parliament Square for lying to her, but apparently she wasn't up for that, either.
Ahh... lovely that one Malvern Rider .... yes Brexit is damaging, but that's just proof that it's worth doing. We'll hear that more and more.
Ahh… lovely that one Malvern Rider …. yes Brexit is damaging, but that’s just proof that it’s worth doing. We’ll hear that more and more.
And if you follow that shit for brains 'logic' to its conclusion I guess you blow your own brains out at some point?
The EU has been so demonised and scapegoated for decades now that its the default position to just blame them for everything. And thats what will happen in January when the south east becomes a lorry park and our economy collapses.
It's not just your Daily Mail readers either. The most rabid Brexiteers I know are proper old school Corbyn-style socialists. Left wingers who absolutely loathe the EU. Get them on the subject and, seriously, you'd think you were talking to Farage. It's all EU Army this and Federal Superstate that. Mental!
