Obviously, businesses up and down the country are drowning in new "red tape" with us outside the single market and customs union that surrounds us... but most want to keep most of the existing regulations that mean that they can do the right thing for employees and the environment without it making them uncompetitive with other businesses prepared to cut those corners. There's more than one kind of "red tape" regulation... I've not seen any new ones that are positive for any worker or SME yet... but plenty that get in the way of just getting on with things.
This is someone else's opinion... not sure how much of it I agree with yet... but I've been thinking about it this morning, and thought I'd share...
Well I agree with every word of that statement from Nitin Sawhney.
Can I just say…
Failed Brexperiment
hash tag it if you like.
Penny dropping...
BBC News - UK doomed without Brexit rethink, warns Tory backer
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63371743
^^ Yeah, I read that earlier.
Paints a bloody bleak and believable picture eh?
Guy Hands is likely to be dismissed as a greedy and biased hedge fund manager.
That's an easier response than addressing the points he makes.
The thing is, that's also the exact line <everyone> that's against brexit should be taking. You don't have to say "brexit was a terrible idea and you were a terrible idiot if you believed the terrible liars that pushed it"- though, it's mostly fair. You can say "Brexit was a huge challenge and a huge promise and the government was not up to that challenge. Now we're in an absolute mess because of that failure. The people who told you it'd be easy, that we'd hold all the cards, that it was oven-ready, that made all those promises, were the same people who couldn't deliver any of it. And so here we are. If you believed them, you should be angrier than the people who didn't. Nobody got what they were promised"
Guy Hands is likely to be dismissed as a greedy and biased hedge fund manager.
He was this evening by intellectual heavyweight Ian Duncan Smith, who said he needs to return to the UK and pay tax.
???? AHEM!?!?! BLUE PASSPORTS!!?
All Ireland Single Energy Market at risk from… well… is “Brexit zealots” an appropriate term?
Another heroic win for the DUP.😐
The DUP raise flag shagging to whole new level...
Fundamentally they want to be ruled by their Tory overloads and don't want to govern themselves...
Its like they want to politicaly "section" themselves.
Not sure they are Brexit zealots.
Don’t think they are overly concerned about Brexit other than as a vehicle for their own agenda.
But of a common theme with Brexit IMHO.
Fundamentally they want to be ruled by their Tory overloads and don’t want to govern themselves…
A bit like the Scottish Tories too.
Oops looks like they’ve found another 1400 laws to add to the other laws that need reviewing.
So with a choice 3800 eu laws I’ve still never heard anyone actually state which one they really wanted gone as it was stopping them doing something.
Still I suppose people won’t notice the law when’s it’s gone since they don’t realise it exists anyway 🙂
Still I suppose people won’t notice the law when’s it’s gone since they don’t realise it exists anyway
Hmmm, I suspect that might not be true…
#BigYellowTaxiMoment
Stop fretting folk, a couple of Tory Backbenchers say it'll be fine...
In a second confrontation with the union leaders, it was left to the Conservative backbenchers Marcus Fysh and David Jones, prominent Eurosceptics, to give the government assurances they were seeking.
“I’m quite sure that the government and its ministers will be very keen to make sure that people’s rights are preserved. I can’t personally imagine a scenario in which they wouldn’t be very careful about those things,” said Fysh.
“There is no way the government would scrap these rights you are talking about,” added Jones.
So with a choice 3800 eu laws I’ve still never heard anyone actually state which one they really wanted gone as it was stopping them doing something.
The problem the supposedly intelligent remainers are missing - are still missing - is, to the great unwashed it was never about the laws themselves. It's about the idea of those laws. People like James O'Brian (and folk on the forum, likely myself included) asked them what EU law they were most looking forward to getting rid of, they either couldn't answer or came up with some nonsense hopelessly detached from reality, and we laughed at them.
But that's the wrong question. Their objection was to the notion that someone else was making our laws. What those laws actually are is neither here nor there. (And of course, it's a notion based on ignorance and fuelled by propaganda.)
You cannot counter heart with head, it just doesn't work. People don't want to hear Mr Logic explaining European political process, they want to hear "I know, terrible isn't it."
I also have a sneaky/sinking feeling that the people who actually knew what rules they wanted going weren't going to be shouting it from the treetops 🙂
People don’t want to hear Mr Logic explaining European political process, they want to hear “I know, terrible isn’t it.”
I think the "sovrinty" and laws thing was just the respectable veneer that was stuck on top of a thick layer of racism and xenophobia so that we could vote guilt-free to kick foreigners.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63573988
"The chief executive of High Street chain Next is urging the government to let more foreign workers into the UK to alleviate chronic labour shortages.
Lord Wolfson, who was a prominent advocate of Brexit, said the UK's current immigration policy was crippling economic growth."
TBH isn't that due to the fact that fewer workers means he has to pay more or offer a better package to entice people to work for him as opposed to being able to treat em like sh... 🙂
A Brexit positive.
Although I think its a tad more involved that as you could lose staff from other sectors, like health.
Macdonald''s currently pay 50p/hour more than a primary learning support assistant can be paid. 🙄
Yeah my wife is currently a TA earning less than she could at Costa. And she has to drive to work rather than walk.
Given the state of Legal Aid, we have a situation where in the UK, Barrista's can earn more than Barristers.
And the Tory answer, of course, is "more austerity. More! More!"
“The chief executive of High Street chain Next is urging the government to let more foreign workers into the UK to alleviate chronic labour shortages
It’s actually quite shocking that one of the main advocates, who’s clearly an intelligent bloke, failed to notice that the whole project was fuelled by racism
Barrista’s can earn more than Barristers.
That deserves praise. Gold star.
And a (comic) example among thousands that remind us that low wages are the result of decisions made in government and by companies. People need to get past this idea that wage levels are set in a simple market where fewer people means higher wages... for most people in most sectors they face a double whammy of overwork due to understaffing and falling real pay year on year on year on year on year...
Although I think its a tad more involved that as you could lose staff from other sectors, like health.
This is becoming a huge issue. The current nursing crisis / planned strikes is quite unsurprising when you realise that Lidl and Morrisons will pay at least the same hourly rate to their shelf stacking staff as a newly qualified / junior nurse will earn.
Factor in that some nurses are spending 3k a year for parking at work on top and also the huge amount of extra stress involved in life and death care compared to stacking tins of beans....
And a (comic) example among thousands that remind us that low wages are the result of decisions made in government and by companies. People need to get past this idea that wage levels are set in a simple market where fewer people means higher wages… for most people in most sectors they face a double whammy of overwork due to understaffing and falling real pay year on year on year on year on year…
That reality is slowly sinking in for HGV drivers too, those headline wages from last year or so are gone. It's all back to low wages and/or high hours again. Quite a few drivers thought that kicking all the 'forrin' drivers out would increase wages but all it's done is mean less trucks running so there's more work being pushed on each run, especially on the multi-droo pallet work.
It’s actually quite shocking that one of the main advocates, who’s clearly an intelligent bloke, failed to notice that the whole project was fuelled by racism
He would have noticed, he just refused to acknowledge it publicly.
More in the Guardian
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/nov/10/brexit-next-boss-foreign-workers-uk-lord-wolfson
“In respect of immigration, it’s definitely not the Brexit that I wanted, or indeed, many of people who voted Brexit wanted,” he added.
I think he's kidding himself there
“We have to remember, you know, we’re all stuck in this Brexit argument. We have to remember that what post-Brexit Britain looks like is not the preserve of those people that voted Brexit, it’s for all of us to decide,” Wolfson said.
We've utterly and totally ****ed up so if all of you who said this would be a **** up and voted against would just take some responsibility for the **** up I encouraged that would be just lovely.
Thanks
Lord Wolfson
Factor in that some nurses are spending 3k a year for parking at work on top and also the huge amount of extra stress involved in life and death care compared to stacking tins of beans
Private Eye had a cartoon recently with someone collapsed in a supermarket and the staff coming to help with one saying "dont worry we all used to be nurses"
Factor in that some nurses are spending 3k a year for parking at work on top and also the huge amount of extra stress involved in life and death care compared to stacking tins of beans
3k parking for nurses? That is absolutely appalling. It should be free for all nurses if they wish to drive to work.
Who own the car park(s) anyway? Council?
Is this the way to reduce carbon emission or to discourage driving?
direct quote from a nurse on channel 4 news the other night.
Hospitals generally own the car parks on their grounds. Its a revenue stream they use to top up their funding
Always been a mystery to me why asylum seekers can't do some menial jobs for cash-in-hand. It's not like anyone else is doing them.
“We have to remember, you know, we’re all stuck in this Brexit argument. We have to remember that what post-Brexit Britain looks like is not the preserve of those people that voted Brexit, it’s for all of us to decide,” Wolfson said."
You're either part of the problem or part of the solution...
Notice how he doesn't includes himself in 'those' but does refer to himself as part of 'us' You are one of 'those' matey boy. The 'us in this conversation are 'those' that knew the whole thing was going to be a sh*t storm
This is one case where 'You broke it so you fix it' doesn't apply. You got it wrong, you broke it, now sod off and let some of those who got it right have a go.
Always been a mystery to me why asylum seekers can’t do some menial jobs for cash-in-hand. It’s not like anyone else is doing them.
its ilegal for them to work whilst their claim is being processed and if they get caught then its more likely to be rejected
a bonkers system that means the state has to pay for them, considering the current backlog is something ridiculous like 8 year?
Its absolute insanity, but I expect nothing less from our government
“In respect of immigration, it’s definitely not the Brexit that I wanted, or indeed, many of people who voted Brexit wanted,” he added.
I think he’s kidding himself there
Of course he is - they all are. Because there's always someone else to blame. That's how Brexit was conceived, won and is being implemented.
Perhaps a good change emerging?
Who knew that freedom of movement benefitted everyone....
TBH it wasn’t the Spanish who voted to keep us out 🙂
I’d be surprised if they don’t some type of long stay visa (a la france), they have just done a digital nomad one very recently.
But don’t expect it next week 🙂
London loses position as most valuable European stock market
Britain's stock market has lost its position as Europe's most-valued, as the economic downturn weighs on UK companies, data shows.
