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12 days to go until the 2 year mark.

Can anyone think of any single way in which life in the UK is now provably better - factually - in any way, any way at all?

I'm all ears.


 
Posted : 19/01/2022 4:51 pm
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Posted : 19/01/2022 5:01 pm
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I’m all ears.

Some EU regulations which I'm either making up or misinterpreting would have outlawed a person made entirely of ears, so that's another great British tradition we've protected.

Likewise, we can still use related measures such as 'costing an arm and a leg', and UK businesses will still be able to 'pick someone's brain', despite the ECJ ruling.


 
Posted : 19/01/2022 5:21 pm
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TBF i've learned to relax and embrace brexit mainly by looking at prices on well used UK based bike websites where they appear to be ripping the tits out of their captive audience and comparing to other websites on the continent where they are not charging the VAT. so long as i put a decent order together and stay under the 135 quid i'm all good with 20% off and a more competitive price to start with. 😀


 
Posted : 20/01/2022 12:29 am
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TBF i’ve learned to relax and embrace brexit mainly by looking at prices on well used UK based bike websites where they appear to be ripping the tits out of their captive audience and comparing to other websites on the continent where they are not charging the VAT. so long as i put a decent order together and stay under the 135 quid i’m all good with 20% off and a more competitive price to start with.

I've started doing this with car parts and have been ordering from Autodoc (Germany) just have to stay below the magic £135 and not be in a hurry for stuff.


 
Posted : 20/01/2022 11:34 am
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I’ve started doing this with car parts and have been ordering from Autodoc (Germany) just have to stay below the magic £135 and not be in a hurry for stuff.

I've been looking to place an order at R2-bike, they automatically ad the UK VAT which is disappointing, so doesn't work for everything.


 
Posted : 20/01/2022 12:21 pm
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We now have Truss saying she "aims" to renegotiate the NI protocol by the end of Feb.  without any change in stance from frost of course which means that this will go absolutely nowhere.  she might get throw a few bones but not a chance on the so called red lines like ECJ as the arbiter


 
Posted : 20/01/2022 1:51 pm
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They still just don't get it, do they?

You negotiated a terrible deal, all signed it while selling it as the best thing ever. Thats it. The end. The whole matter is closed as far as the EU is concerned, even if they do occasionally humour dimwits like Liz by claiming they're open to ideas and suggestions

Its going to be hilarious watching her try and spin getting absolutely nowhere, having come out with this cloud cuckooland nonsense about a renegotiation, which just isn't going to happen


 
Posted : 20/01/2022 2:03 pm
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I’ve been looking to place an order at R2-bike

Are you sure, they have never charged me VAT? Does mean some REALLY cheap tyres.


 
Posted : 20/01/2022 3:53 pm
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Ahh VAT, oddly why I think the UK public will never get any Brexit benefit is that BJ actually touted dropping VAT on Energy prices when he was campaigning for Brexit.

So any easy win that he could deliver as per promised and people are desperate for and have you heard it being dropped?

Course its more lies/mistruths, Spain's dropped the vat by 10% due to the higher cost here and unless I missed SPrexit we still seem to be in the EU (and there's oddly Strawberries in the fridge.)


 
Posted : 21/01/2022 2:19 pm
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I think in theory R2 should have applied/paid to join to the UK (arrogant)vat paying scheme thing and collected the VAT on stuff under the 135, course if they can't be arsed and just take your money sans tax whats the UK gonna do as a third country 🙂


 
Posted : 21/01/2022 2:25 pm
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The queues at dover are piling up
media studiously ignoring it

Will be interesting to see what happens when holidaymakers start seeing it

Bankski displaying Raab-like levels of geographical & logistical knowledge here

https://twitter.com/Arron_banks/status/1484454081112510470


 
Posted : 21/01/2022 2:40 pm
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Mr Banks there studiously ignoring that there was already a “solution” in place to facilitate easier trade with all the countries close enough to use lorries for deliveries.


 
Posted : 21/01/2022 2:50 pm
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Yeah we could send our ships to further away countries like Spain, Belgium, Germany, Denmark, Netherlands, or Sweden. What are the chances they'd all have the same rules as France?


 
Posted : 21/01/2022 4:04 pm
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Yeah we could send our ships to further away countries like Spain, Belgium, Germany, Denmark, Netherlands, or Sweden. What are the chances they’d all have the same rules as France?

NoNoNo.

Banks is thinking of Arkhangelsk. For some reason.


 
Posted : 21/01/2022 4:06 pm
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For some reason.

😂

Made me laugh, anyway. Follow the money.


 
Posted : 21/01/2022 4:12 pm
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Are there any issues with queues at Dover for car ferries? As I'm on the 6am one tomorrow!


 
Posted : 21/01/2022 5:28 pm
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Are there any issues with queues at Dover for car ferries? As I’m on the 6am one tomorrow!

Don't take this as gospel, you should be ok, ish. The issue is customs paperwork and the time it takes to process. The issue for passenger cars begins later when you need to give fingerprints before entering the Schegen area.


 
Posted : 21/01/2022 5:45 pm
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The queues at dover are piling up
media studiously ignoring it

HMRC internal comms saying how well it's all going.....


 
Posted : 21/01/2022 6:01 pm
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Needs to be on a poster - 'Brexit Isn't Working', maybe?


 
Posted : 21/01/2022 9:05 pm
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This really is below the radar, I live in Kent and didn't know these issues were continuing till I saw it mentioned on here.


 
Posted : 21/01/2022 9:29 pm
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My ex colleagues (who voted for this shambles and called me a loser when the result was apparent), are now tearing their hair out because customers are returning all the product they've imported as it's come with short use by dates due to all the delays with paperwork. ****ing hilarious frankly, they've made their bed and they can lie in it.


 
Posted : 21/01/2022 10:19 pm
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Cieran the courier on twitter has been posting up his troubles with customs over the past week, 17km queues for custom checks and a 10hr+ wait to get on the ferries..........#takebackcontrol


 
Posted : 21/01/2022 10:31 pm
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Yeah, his first hand real-time reporting has been excellent.


 
Posted : 21/01/2022 10:55 pm
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Yeah but we got the crown on our pint glasses. Okay we could have had one anyway if anyone had really cared but doesnt it make you proud of our brave nation when sipping a beer and looking at that crown proudly displayed?


 
Posted : 21/01/2022 11:27 pm
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Well, as part of Operation Red Meat, the government spin machine looks to have remembered that Brexit is a thing… with noise about “more” and “faster” benefits and freedoms due to Brexit… whatever they might be…

https://twitter.com/nealerichmond/status/1487918121012932611?s=21


 
Posted : 31/01/2022 12:02 am
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Just been looking at tomorrow's front pages - see kelvin's post ^^^
Yet more bollocks aimed at the gullible and hard of thinking.


 
Posted : 31/01/2022 12:07 am
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If folk look under those headlines they'll find that the Govt is taking MORE control by actually removing the need for 'laws' to go through Parliament..., and using more 'secondary legislation' to enact them.

Wonder what they've planned for us?


 
Posted : 31/01/2022 10:16 am
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Aaron Banks has now deleted his tweet...


 
Posted : 31/01/2022 10:21 am
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Well, changes to procurement and subsidies look be top of the list, to give ministers more personal discretion with less oversight… better get yourself ingratiated with someone on the inside if your want some of those lovely government contracts or support packages.


 
Posted : 31/01/2022 10:23 am
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Human waste...meet human waste...

https://twitter.com/mrjamesob/status/1487526918333382664


 
Posted : 31/01/2022 10:28 am
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Well, changes to procurement and subsidies look be top of the list, to give ministers more personal discretion with less oversight… better get yourself ingratiated with someone on the inside if your want some of those lovely government contracts or support packages.

It looks like they're taking their corrupt covid PPE contracts as a blueprint for the rest of the economy. I bet those in the 'VIP Lane' already are rubbing their hands with glee at the prospect of all those taxpayer billions heading their way


 
Posted : 31/01/2022 10:56 am
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better get yourself ingratiated with someone on the inside if your want some of those lovely government contracts or support packages

Sadly, some companies who lost tons of EU business are facing a choice between doing this, or packing up / downsizing. That is, employing specific individuals who come with government contracts "in the box".


 
Posted : 31/01/2022 11:29 pm
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https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1488937821054414855

oh dear


 
Posted : 02/02/2022 7:12 pm
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Just read that on the BBC website, that's thrown a proper spanner in the works now.

Be interesting to see what the EU's response is and how Johnson reacts to it. I'm guessing at they side with Ireland so threaten to stop any movement of goods across from NI and Johnson wades in and makes it worse somehow.


 
Posted : 02/02/2022 7:26 pm
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TBH if the EU pulled The ‘deal’ in retaliation would we actually notice 🙂


 
Posted : 02/02/2022 7:28 pm
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Isn't this just a provocation to the EU to get them to impose a land border in response, thus making them the bad guys?

They won’t do that, obviously, as unlike Johnson and co they actually understand and respect the GFA.

So I suppose this means economic sanctions then?


 
Posted : 02/02/2022 7:47 pm
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Ah like the Harley Davidson tax,wonder what whose constituency/products they’ll nuke.


 
Posted : 02/02/2022 8:11 pm
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Just close Calais impose full checks on every lorry.


 
Posted : 02/02/2022 8:26 pm
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We still have “economic sanctions” imposed on us by the USA because of our attitude to Ireland and failure to embrace what we signed up to with the EU. It’s only matter of time before others do the same.


 
Posted : 02/02/2022 8:45 pm
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I can see that queue into Dover beginning at Elephant and Castle before long...


 
Posted : 02/02/2022 10:35 pm
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Ah but they had to stop for a sleep,had a puncture,E.U changed the rules,or that boat refit that was to blame.


 
Posted : 03/02/2022 8:03 am
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Comical Ali, now that was a weird thing to behold, never knew that would become our goverment policy when I was a kid watching him.


 
Posted : 03/02/2022 8:07 am
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NI isn't huge if EU impose checks then how will they stack the lorries?


 
Posted : 03/02/2022 8:12 am
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