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Interesting how the UK has flatlined since 2006, yes it has collapsed because of Brexit, but it really hasn't been healthy for a while.
I just want to know if she is doing brilliantly in a job made unbelievably difficult by Brexit, or if our trade problems are down to her performing poorly in her government role? I think we need to know if there’s any chance she could temporarily be PM.
doing badly in a job made impossible
You can only play the cards you are dealt and she has a 2 and a 5 but did she need to go all in blind? My understanding is the deals done are on unfavourable terms to us
Wont stop her trying to be PM tho and she might even get it if Johnson goes
Would it be fair to say that any Tories with intelligence and/or integrity (there must have been some) have either given up and moved on, or been forced out of the party because they couldn't blindly follow the Brexit bandwagon, and now we are left with the idiots and/or people who couldn't give a crap running the country?
Is this actually the fault of the electorate (well Tory voters, anyway) for believing all of the BS spouted by the Tories and overwhelmingly voting for them in the face of all the historical evidence of what the Tories are like and the fact that they are led by an incompetent, compulsively lying buffoon? Surely, the evidence was there for all to see?
Feeling more cynical than usual today.
“I’m not arguing there are no decent people in the Tory Party,But they’re like bits of sweetcorn in a turd; technically they’ve kept their integrity but they’re still embedded in shit"
Iain Banks
Is this actually the fault of the electorate (well Tory voters, anyway) for believing all of the BS spouted by the Tories and overwhelmingly voting for them in the face of all the historical evidence of what the Tories are like and the fact that they are led by an incompetent, compulsively lying buffoon? Surely, the evidence was there for all to see?
YOu have to include the malign press. mainly owned by non british resident far right wingers who have relentlessly promoted the lies and because the BBC has to be "impartial" they end up following the same fake stories
Interesting how the UK has flatlined since 2006, yes it has collapsed because of Brexit, but it really hasn’t been healthy for a while.
Financial Crisis followed by austerity and capped off with Brexit. Even if the austerity policy had been successful in rebalancing the deficit, it was never going to create any growth in GDP. Again Brexit may be a path to sunny uplands, but it's not going to create any economic growth in the short term.
Brexiteer twitter is frothing with rage this evening
https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/1469350565616496642?t=6An-EkFMhvBtc0biBxbklQ&s=19
We are currently in that there EU on a holiday. The only differences we've noticed since pre-Brexit are covid-related. That is, empty airports and sailing through passport control. And those pesky covid tests. We'll see if getting back home is as easy.
Frosty is still saying the ECJ is still a red line... but he's about as trustworthy as Johnson is.
That's saying something.
Frosty is still saying the ECJ is still a red line… but he’s about as trustworthy as Johnson is.
That’s saying something.
Frosty probably hasn't realized his "boss" is no longer in charge 😉
Very true.Lol
ITV citing a report on Brexit.
12 Billion a month lost in exports.
Wow.
Capitulation coming thick & fast now
https://twitter.com/BrexitHome/status/1469658232872484871?t=BVPpH6pBbG7_DNN9ZTUI-A&s=19
Are they getting twitchy about 1st Jan import duties?
^ He’s just vile. That’s really wound me up.
Surely the speaker needs to hold him to account over such a disrespectful and untrue response?
Threatening to freeze his financial assets would be better. Or a trial for treason.
He knows that he's got the flag-waving we won the war brigade forever, he can't believe his luck in having the stupidest electorate in Europe and his act has been rewarded at every turn. Why would he stop?
Wow just wow, didn't realise how such a few words could make me hate a man I detest even more than before.
Literally could not give a flying f*ck, could he.
Of course he doesn't give a f*ck, he's been reported to have made millions since the referendum of the back of brexshit. linky
He sits there with his I'm alright jack smug look on his face. Despicable little s*it of an excuse for a human being.
Rees-Mogg is a lightweight anachronism, it's the right wing libertarians such as Stephen Baker who are the real drivers in all this.
They're the scary ones.
Brexit: The economic impact a year on
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-business-59741804
Quake in fear Brussels! The big guns are out!!!
https://twitter.com/trussliz/status/1473287015345098756?s=21
Finally, someone with a bit of integrity.
That’ll kill some time Binners… watch all of Spicer’s videos. Many gems for you.
Well, January is going to be fun for UK businesses.
https://twitter.com/DanielLambert29/status/1473542887346475010
he can’t believe his luck in having the stupidest electorate in Europe and his act has been rewarded at every turn. Why would he stop?
At the risk of incurring weeksy's wrath, can I just wholeheartedly agree with this statement.
The problem in the UK isn't the selfish, rich scum at the top creaming off their millions at the detriment of the country as a whole.... that action is simply to be expected.
The problem is the portion of people who are screwed over by these policies and actions, but are unable to see what is happening before their very eyes. And so continue to vote for the same scum at the top.
Who's going to take up a 1 year visa, and in the current climate?
^^ Yeah, saw that.
I suspect it'll be a little like trying to lure the haulage drivers over that,well... didn't.
That said, I think the visa is for a few years rather than a few months?
A sticking plaster at best in a sector ravaged by austerity and Brexit.
Well, January is going to be fun for UK businesses.
And if business can't get goods in, the shelves will be bare. prepare for higher prices and less choice. As for fresh anything, forget it. Back to tinned peaches being haute cuisine.
thegeneralist
At the risk of incurring weeksy’s wrath, can I just wholeheartedly agree with this statement.
In fairness that was over crossing streams.
Dig for Victory.
I thought Angela Rayner overstepped the mark with her choice of words last month and that her style would put off many potential voters.
However, Jacob Rees Mogg has managed to prove me wrong and her so very, very right.
Jacob Rees Mogg
To be honest, Boris,Truss etc. are very much not to my liking but JRM is an utterly vile human being. He embodies most of the qualities I find abhorrent in human behaviour.
I can't find a single redeeming feature. Same way as I feel about Trump.
Dig for Victory.
Is that for, a new U.K.-Australia tunnel scheme that I’ve missed 🙂
Escape to victory?
A Dig Too Far.
Digging it...
JRM = C***
First up against the wall.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/dec/25/one-year-on-most-voters-say-brexit-has-gone-badly
"we knew what we were voting for"
I would like to know who the 14% are who said Brexit had gone better than expected.
Sad.
Presumably the people who are relieved the nation hasn't resorted to cannibalism yet.
I would like to know who the 14% are who said Brexit had gone better than expected.
Anyone like me who thought that what is to come would have happened by now. Those of us who think the worst is yet to happen. It's not that we think this is finished and it could have been worse, it's that we know it's nowhere near done.
everyone looking forward to the ban on chilled meat products next week. Only frozen going forward.
Has action woman Liz not gone begging for another extension of the 'grace period' yet?
mrmo
Free Membereveryone looking forward to the ban on chilled meat products next week. Only frozen going forward.
Can't open the PDF, is it import or export effected?
I would like to know who the 14% are who said Brexit had gone better than expected.
Anyone like me who thought that what is to come would have happened by now
Likewise. Because I was expecting a full-on cluster**** rather than a mere shitstorm. In an absolute sense, my expectations were indeed exceeded.
Hah, hey. Project Fear, that's me with egg on my face isn't it.
Interesting about the massive tariffs associated with the amazing trade deals (with a few multinational exceptions.) SMEs are in trouble
To be honest, he's not really thought about it much. He needs a new vet for a start. £180 is way out there for an EHC, typically £140 or less. Other options include using a consolidator who are exporting to the EU and will cover the paperwork, all you need is a GEFS attestation once a month signed of by the vet. There are a number of other cheese makers who are letting other producers piggyback onto their deliveries to the EU including Wyke Farms and Quickes, His trade would still have been impacted but he's a bit "oh woe is me" when he could have thought outside the box a bit.
The other option is smuggle it in via DHL, declaring clothes on the polystyrene boxes...
Perhaps you can send him your advice?
Is having to think outside the box to maintain some ability to trade one of the sunlit uplands?
Can’t open the PDF, is it import or export effected?
import, no non frozen meat preparations will be allowed from 1st jan. ie sausages, ready meals, etc.
Perhaps you can send him your advice?
Is having to think outside the box to maintain some ability to trade one of the sunlit uplands?
Maybe I should. I successfully did it in my previous job, with cheese no less, as a TM for one of the biggest UK dairy produce wholesalers in the UK. We exported 2 or 3 times a week and the cost of the vet was covered by the government for the EHC. So before the sarcy comment, remember there's always someone on STW with experience. His difficulty might stem from their previous interactions with others in the industry. Whilst I'm no fan of Brexit and the fact it increased my workload, it's lazy to blame it on everything.
As an aside I offered to their sales director to piggy back onto our exports, he declined. Can't help people if they don't want to be helped.
So did brexit directly lead to increased complexity and workload?
one of the biggest UK dairy produce wholesalers in the UK
So not an SME then?
Let's just remember we were promised no downside, only upsides and no change in any of the good stuff from EU membership.
Whilst I’m no fan of Brexit and the fact it increased my workload, it’s lazy to blame it on everything
Yep, as much as I don’t like it, if you weren’t noticing the lack of info from the gov and preparing some scenarios to hedge your business from the madness coming you weren’t really paying attention to the harsh business realities that you should have.
Keeping a business afloat always entails some out of the box thinking, to cope with the realities of change.
Companies oddly have managed to trade outside the E.U. Prior to brexit and the requirements to do that are fully known.
Your business just may not be viable anymore in the U.K. with the new realities of trade 🙁
Promises are like farts in the wind 🙂
As an aside I offered to their sales director to piggy back onto our exports
For free? That’s awfully good of you. It’s pretty obvious why SMEs don’t want to be dependent on their larger competitors (or third party fulfilment companies) for trade… but I agree with you that is the reality they face, and for now they need to suck it up and pay the big boys in the short term. In the longer term they need an EU operation or retail/wholesale partner (and all the costs, risks and dependency that entails).
I predict we will see a lot of victim blaming as the brexit cards start to fall
So rather than legislating against abusive use of monopoly or cartel positions the government has created them.
we will see a lot of victim blaming
Absolutely. Stick great big holes in the hull of UK small business, and blame those running those businesses for not jumping ship or being accepting of their cold wet fate.
Well the the Ringmaster did actually tell you what he thought of business 🙂
I predict we will see a lot of victim blaming as the brexit cards start to fall
We’re all victims in this,doesn’t matter how they fall whilst we’ve a complicit media happy to keep the circus in town.
Go on crack open that pint of champagne and feel the taste of triumph. 🙁
Cheeseys pretty right thou….
It turns out our greatest competitor on the planet is the UK government because every time they do a fantastic deal, they kick us out of that market – starting with the Brexit deal
I do think he’s right and attempting to make Brexit work and bringing the plight of how it really isn’t is admirable as opposed to moaning.
(I may have done a Truss)
So not an SME then?
Yes, just because my former employer was one of the biggest doesn't mean they aren't an SME, they have a turnover of approx £37m.
For free? That’s awfully good of you.
Yes, for free. Surprisingly, a lot of people in the cheese industry get on very well and really don't like to see each other fail. Going to the ICDA and not seeing the usual familiar faces because they've folded is quite sad.
So BenjiM tell us what we really want to know, how much the work you have done has increased profits, how much more productive is the company now it is outside of the EU. What great opportunities have opened up that you couldn't have previously pursued.
So BenjiM tell us what we really want to know, how much the work you have done has increased profits, how much more productive is the company now it is outside of the EU. What great opportunities have opened up that you couldn’t have previously pursued.
Oh, it's certainly less productive. No new roles have been created, just extra work tagged onto existing jobs, that were already struggling to cope (which is one of the reasons I left). In the case of my old employer they picked up the customers that were dropped by their suppliers as they said it wasn't workable, in the case of Northern Ireland. We carried on supplying to our EU customers, but price increases had to be incorporated. There aren't any new opportunities that have opened up as far as I'm aware.
From the responses, some folk seem to think I'm some sort of Brexit cheerleader. That's far from the truth. I think the whole thing is bollocks and I voted to remain, partially on the selfish note that I knew that it would make my job a hell of a lot harder, bringing 70% of the business's product into the country from Europe.
Bizarrely I was the only member of the senior management team who voted remain, I recall when the result was announced and the warehouse manager came in like a 5 year old calling me a loser. Oh how the tables turned when his job got harder having to deal with import paperwork.
Believe it or not trying to make the best of a bad job, working with what we have, to ensure continuity for our customers and to keep the business running (and make money) and calling out the whole Brexit debacle are not mutually exclusive.
Thanks Benji. Good to hear a balanced set of thoughts.
All I can say is that for our organisation, were £130k of Erasmus+ projects annually down in the immediate aftermath, three of which end this month.
Longer term, that means a few hundred teachers who would have had professional learning opportunities with colleagues across Europe losing out. It also means we're down one member of staff.
From the responses, some folk seem to think I’m some sort of Brexit cheerleader. That’s far from the truth.
Thought your experiences came across really well, not sure why you got that reaction.
I'll just say I didn't think you were a supporter of it, I just actually wondered if you had somehow managed to find one thing that was better because of it. I guess the answer is no and the downsides were enough to make you leave the job.
Our situation is likely to be the same, I say likely as it's now nearly 2 years since we loaded a truck with kit and sent it off to anywhere in Europe. All we know for sure is we'll encounter more costs, have more work to produce all the required paperwork and we'll have to allow more trucking time increasing costs further.
Great posts Benji. Thanks.
My employer uses vast amounts of European raw materials (polyurethane industry) converts them in the UK then ships 95% back to Europe to feed into the automotive chain.
There is no need for us to be based in the UK - it's the skillsets and the unique processes we have that means our business can't easily be transferred to Europe but I have a feeling it's going to happen sooner rather than later.
We exported 2 or 3 times a week and the cost of the vet was covered by the government for the EHC.
Hmm, don't you mean "paid for by British taxpayers", AKA you & me.
So would the exports be still viable if the business paid all the costs, rather than been subsidised?
Relevant to the idea that smaller businesses now need to work with their bigger competitors (or third parties) to facilitate the trade and sales they used to handle perfectly fine independently.
https://twitter.com/davidheniguk/status/1477587211176615937?s=21
Interestingly Spain has passed a law to make manufacturers product warranty 3 years (up from eu 2)and they must now have spares available for 10 years as opposed to 5 after the product is discontinued.
We must promote the repair of products because today the economic and marketing it encourages compulsive purchases and is committed to convincing consumers that when a device breaks down, they have to throw it away and buy another. That is why it is necessary to provide facilities so that products can be repaired
It’s a hard life taking those eu rules and going further than the minimum.
That's been law in Germany for a long time, but only for vehicles and for 15 years after IIRC. It's why you can walk into a Volkswagen main dealer and still get mk4 Golf bits the next day.
Crown symbol on a glass - I remember them but - honestly that’s what counts as a Brexit benefit 🙂
Gotta be some part of a Machiavellian distraction.
Thought your experiences came across really well, not sure why you got that reaction.
Because its cobbled together solutions based on goodwill replacing simple and seamless processes.
https://twitter.com/yougov/status/1478387855462383617?s=21
Single figures by this time next year? The whole “shift focus from local trade to rest of world trade” is going to be screwed by long distance shipping costs this year… just as local trade is also going to face additional barriers and cost. The year of less choice and higher prices (in contrast to the opposite being promised during referendum campaigning and post referendum hard Brexit pushing) isn’t going to make Brexit look any more of a “success” than it does now, is it.
Crown symbol on a glass – I remember them but – honestly that’s what counts as a Brexit benefit 🙂
Gotta be some part of a Machiavellian distraction.
Ugh. It's just like the bananna travesty and the blue passsport travesty all over again.
No rules ever stopped us from having curved banannas or blue passports, or indeed, crown symbols on drinking glasses.