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Why are they not asking military to assist with such fundamental things?
Because the one thing guaranteed to interest Brexity flag-shaggers is the army being involved. They love it. But then loads of sassy remain-type folk will force the flag-shaggers to acknowledge that the army are being drafted in to sort out the Brexit **** ups. And the armed forces ain't big enough.
Also agree that the 'temporary' (cough - bullshit) measures to allow us to pollute the rivers and seas etc are the tip of the iceberg. Not that there'll be any icebergs anywhere in 20 years at this rate...
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Those Tim Tams coming with a big price tag then 🙂
^ drivers are not just Brexshit
But some of it is and that will become apparent soon enough. Funnily enough I haven't seen any stories about Carrefour shelves being empty in France....
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^ drivers are not just Brexshit
But some of it is and that will become apparent soon enough. Funnily enough I haven’t seen any stories about Carrefour shelves being empty in France….
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Yep lots of stuff on the Shelves in Sunny Spain, and lots of stuff being grown,planted and picked.
I can even get Cheddar Cheese as the supermarket has their own brand made for them in the West Country in the UK, I did wonder if they'd get issues but tbh not even a blip and the shelves of the Carrefour are er rammed.
That story about sewage plants really shows what's important in UK PLC. We could easily prioritise essential supply chain activities like that, but instead it'll be shit in the rivers so that we can keep having 30 different types of bottled water in tesco.
And the driver shortage isn't going to be any better by the end of the year when that "temporary" rule change runs out.
But it's all OK, you need a specific approval from the Environmental Agency, an organisation whose task now is to occasionally give people fines that are smaller than the amount of money they saved by deliberately breaking the rules
We could easily prioritise essential supply chain activities like that, but instead it’ll be shit in the rivers so that we can keep having 30 different types of bottled water in tesco.
Partly. 30 types of bottled water at 100 bottles each per massive Tesco = 3,000 bottles to that store. One lorry from hub to store sorts it. 3 types of bottled water at 1,000 bottles each per store is the same amount of logistics effort near enough. The problem isn't too much choice it is too much stuff to move, full stop. Of course there are other things at play (minimum stock quantities per sku can lead to over-stocking and different bottle shapes/sizes can make it slightly more difficult for two) but it isn't choice that is the main problem. The UK being led by childish pricks is far more pertinent.
And the driver shortage isn’t going to be any better by the end of the year when that “temporary” rule change runs out.
It will be rolled over. More can-kicking. Even a couple of motorway pile-ups won't stop them.
But it’s all OK, you need a specific approval from the Environmental Agency, an organisation whose task now is to occasionally give people fines that are smaller than the amount of money they saved by deliberately breaking the rules
Cost-Benefit innit? When the direct cost of a fine is the only thing you care about (and it is diddly squat) then why give a shit? If the indirect cost (rivers full of shit) is someone else's problem. Take your dividend and/or exec pay and leave someone else to suffer. It is part of the vision of Brilliant Buccaneering Brexit Bulldog Britain, after all. Environmental standards? Just tell a few lies. Dismiss anyone who points it out as unpatriotic. Remember the bullshit about diverging on Environmental standards so we could have higher standards than Europe? Well, it was intentional bollocks then, it is bollocks now and it will continue to be bollocks.
Brexit was mostly a one-off smash and grab on the postwar consensus and standards that cost capital to ensure normal people's standard of living is even marginally protected. This is Britannia Unchained. The bit they didn't shout about was that it was private capital that would be Unchained in order to **** over the little guy.
But this was all said at the time and the bellends ignored it.
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https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/9/3/why-are-there-food-shortages-in-the-uk
Basically the UK supply chain problems are less (much less than Boris Bullshit would have you believe) to do with global covid issues and more to do with epic Brexity Bellendery.
But we knew that anyway. Willingly looking for umpteen other scapegoats notwithstanding.
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And you thought "Brexshit" was just a slogan?
dannyh
Full MemberPartly. 30 types of bottled water at 100 bottles each per massive Tesco = 3,000 bottles to that store. One lorry from hub to store sorts it. 3 types of bottled water at 1,000 bottles each per store is the same amount of logistics effort near enough.
Still all has to get to the hub, but from a load more places. And you have to carry more stock for 30 brands overall than you do 1.
But, my main reason for choosing bottled water is that it makes ****-all sense for there to be a massive supermarket aisle of bloody water which comes out of a tap, but even more so when the cost of stuff like that, is having dirty water in rivers.
bloody water which comes out of a tap
Shouldn't that be 'shitty water which comes out of a tap'? There might be a run on bottled water if we run out of more chemicals for sewage treatment / water purification.
Can't wait for the headline.
"Boris urges every patriotic Brit to filter their own piss through their Brita to thwart evil EU".
"When asked if he would be doing his patriotic bit Boris replied that he would, although a photographer managed to snap a massive consignment of bottled water and champers being delivered to No 10 - "Let them drink piss" Carrie Antoinette was heard to mutter".
"Meanwhile it was rumoured that the drinking water shortage was exacerbated by a friend of Robert Jenrick bottling pre-pollution stocks of tap water 'on am industrial scale'".
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Someone post an Only Fools and Horses clip please.
There is a definite sense that the fall out (plop out?) from Brexit is gathering pace now and haven't even really got going yet.
The news about the dumping of crap into rivets is deeply depressing.
So desperate for a trade deal with Australia that we signed away any integrity we had left, COP 26 later this year will be a farce.
Australian government stands by coal after 2030
I guess Drax will be retro fitted to burn Australian coal in the near future.
What can possibly go wrong?
BBC News - Government to shorten HGV driver testing process
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58487347
To be fair, I don't know enough about lorry driving to make an informed comment.
If I understand the change it's not really reducing the training or the testing standard, it's just streamlining the testing stage- before, you'd do the class C and then had to wait to do the class E, but now you can do them both at the same time. Doesn't seem like that much of a difference overall? In either direction- if I'm right then it's not a lowering of standards but it's also not going to get many more drivers on the road.
Remember. Full customs checks aren't required at the moment. But they come into force in October.
Beans on toast for Crimbo lunch for us proles whilst De Pfeffel and Carrie Antoinette feast on fois gras, champers and lobster thermidore chased with a fine sherry.
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^^ Aren't "we" trying to negotiate (again) a deferral of implementing full checks in October or something?
I remember reading something on the BBC webby I think?
I think the cloud of obscuring, patriotic vapour surrounding Brexit is well and truly clearing exposing the rancid turd beneath.
I think we found the apex brexiteer
That is marvellous! I mean, it will not change that dick heads world view, but a beautiful riposte by Siobhán.
On another note, I have found a kind of shortage over here in Sweden… Soft drinks in cans. The local large supermarkets have notes saying that supplies are limited because of a general world shortage of aluminium, not because of the actual product.
Breweries are having can shortages too.
To the pub I say! Oh wait, it's dangerous or shut....
https://mobile.twitter.com/SiobhanFenton/status/1304186235628511233
re the Siobhán Fenton thread, fake-ish.
Adam Hawkins sounds like a prime tosser. That is all.
Brexit was mostly a one-off smash and grab on the postwar consensus and standards that cost capital to ensure normal people’s standard of living is even marginally protected.
Yes, but I'll refer you back to my 'slogan':
"Brexit isn't the destination, it's the vehicle"
It's not a one-off, it's just one of many approaches been used to make us 'know our place'.
Turn the dinghies around and blame the deaths on the French. Classy.
Maybe we could create a specialist team and call it something like 'Special Mission Squad'? Although the German translation is punchier.
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https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/three-european-roaming-charges-b954429.html
I can't be bothered to comment in detail. But this is one of the many things happening that I voted against, even if you claim not to have voted for it (you did).
Britain is now the Ronnie Pickering of Europe.
Ah had my m8 on the W'app and he asked me if we were suffering supply chain issues as the shop's are looking a bit like Poland around his way.
Bit of an old school reference 🙂
His way being North Shields or North Korea?
There’s some very strategic shelf stacking going on around here. Morrison’s, Aldi and Home Bargains are all it. I can’t get pork scratchings for love nor money at the moment.
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More great Brexit trade news. Who needs to trade with Germany anyway? I’m sure Liz Truss’s next trade triumph with The Galápagos Islands will more than compensate
https://twitter.com/campbellclaret/status/1435865402983202816?s=21
I can’t get pork scratchings for love nor money at the moment
There's a bit of a shortage down here in the south as well. I may have to go back to ordering 1kg boxes off of eBay again, trouble is consumption goes up three fold 😂
I suspect the pork scratching issue is more to do with the main manufacturer trying to kill their customers last month
Because most people can't do basic maths, the impact of the German trade loss will be dismissed with a bit of jingoism and a daily express story about the new deal with Micronesia.
the new deal with Micronesia
Including using a tramp steamers to transport the goods - fuelled by Aussie coal.
Global Britain
Taking Back Control
Etc.
I voted against this? Did you vote for it?
https://twitter.com/danbloom1/status/1436262726196768820?s=21
Boris Johnson broke Britain, and should not just lose his job title, but be run out of the country. Hopefully just before the Telegraph closes its doors so he can’t return to a high paid column to spread further lies and sow more seeds of decline.
but be run out of the country
If you don't mind I think the rest of the world would rather you kept him. However I find it astonishing he hasn't broken any laws he can be tried for, even Blair hasn't had to face a court for his dirty deeds.
Boris Johnson broke Britain, and should not just lose his job title, but be run out of the country. Hopefully just before the Telegraph closes its doors so he can’t return to a high paid column to spread further lies and sow more seeds of decline.
It really is a shabby tale of a shabby, lazy, lying cheat and his inexorable rise - draining the positivity out of a nation to allow one fraud to live out his fantasy.
**** him.
Reversing? So pre-Brexit. Working up the vehicle types? That‘s only about road safety… who cares… we’ll deregulate and lower standards to get through the Brexit mess… no one would have predicted we’d do that.
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Shit-filled rivers and motorway pile-ups are a price worth paying to be free of the evil EU. Obviously all the cash saved by corner-cutting will be invested back into projects that help the general public. Most certainly not trousered by some fat bastard who already has enough money for ten lifetimes.
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never understood why his police escort wouldn't just provide confirmation of where he was on crucial dates, for example pizza express visits- surely this'd put the whole thing to bed quite painlessly.
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I'm guessing wrong thread, but the similarities between Randy Andy and Brexshit are a damning indictment of what should a be a grateful, Liberal and forward-looking country.
I’m guessing wrong thread, but the similarities between Randy Andy and Brexshit are a damning indictment of what should a be a grateful, Liberal and forward-looking country.
Handy Randy Andy distracting the hard of thinking from the car crash that is Brexit.
^^Oi you, I'm not distracted.😉
Andy, Brexit, Boris. It's the British English disease that's eating away at the country/union.
Sadly, yes
^^ I don't mean too come across as snarky MCTD, I agree with about 98% of your posts on here and there is another 1% where you have actually changed my opinion on something.
Me tearing up my census letter in a futile attempt to stick it to the man when in actual fact they serve a very important and positive purpose.
Yep, I was wrong. An STW first?lol
I don’t mean too come across as snarky MCTD, I agree with about 98% of your posts on here
Wow, imagine two of us being so wrong on so many issues 🙃🤣
^^It's the STW way.👍😁
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Ah the local.es (paywall) is reporting that brits rejected for residency are being given notice to leave the country within 15 days.
Interestingly I’ve been rejected for residency, on the grounds I couldn’t prove I was here prior to Brexit and it looks like I’m not the only one.
(All down to not paying some money into a Spanish bank account regularly.)
It’s not a problem as wifey been approved(Mrs DoD slacker with no income) and the paperwork proving we are actually still married is being delivered today.
Like I’ve said the stench of Brexit just follows like a bad fart,”if you don’t like it here just fk off” ,they said……
Well apparently Not.
seems more are looking for sunny uplands elsewhere will Johnsons brexit tax be enough ?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/sep/13/uk-delay-brexit-border-checks-food-eu
Interesting, feel free to impose the checks, because staff is the issue not checks. But then read the small print, try and keep foreign food out and help British suppliers, who can't cope..... I am sure that will be fine!
try and keep foreign food out and help British suppliers
At the moment, we're screwing UK GB businesses left right and centre... you can see why trade bodies would be desperate for the government to actually make a decision based on putting "our own" producers first. It wouldn't work of course, but the sentiment is understandable.
It wouldn’t work of course, but the sentiment is understandable.
And therefore it is another bit of PR flim-flam to distract from the fact that kicking your closest trading partners in the balls for no good reason is monumentally stupid.
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Brexit controls on food and animal products that were due to come into effect in January are being postponed until July 2022 because of the potential impact on businesses, the British government has announced.
So, not taking back control of our borders, for a fair bit longer. It's the right (only) move, but it does suggest that implementing this isn't entirely and overwhelming in our own interests doesn't it. Meanwhile, our cheese producers (insert Liz Truss meme) find that selling direct to customers anywhere outside the UK is already a distant memory, like some kind of cheese dream... "and we could sell to anywhere on the continent, direct, without supermarkets taking a cut... yes, must have been a dream".
Meanwhile, our cheese producers (insert Liz Truss meme) find that selling direct to customers anywhere outside the UK is already a distant memory
Selling 'our' cheese abroad is an act of treason if you subscribe to the idiocy encouraged and personified by Truss. See also buying imported cheese - foreign muck.
The problem is when this fantasy world meets the real world.
Scottish shellfish producers going out of business? Not an issue as 'we' don't eat that much shellfish as a nation - so what's the problem?
It is people, who should know better, encouraging the notion that such idiocy is 'ok' for their own personal gain that should be a treasonable offence.
Brexit controls on food and animal products that were due to come into effect in January are being postponed until July 2022 because of the potential impact on businesses, the British government has announced.
surely that puts them in breach of the agreement with the EU? More trouble coming!
It is Brexit for your exports to the EU and single market for imports from the EU.
Brillant move.
It is Brexit for your exports to the EU and single market for imports from the EU.
Brillant move.
Liz Truss would actually miss the sarcasm and take that at face value.
Her stupidity is so profound it bends space and time.
It is Brexit for your exports to the EU and single market for imports from the EU.
Brillant move
There simply are no words for this level of stupidity.
This is essentially subsidising EU imports into the UK? Placing tariffs on your own exports?
Christ on a bendybus! The EU must be absolutely laughing their tits off
The EU must be laughing their tits off
No I think they are depressed about it, because they can see how the idiots and the unscrupulous have hijacked a formerly progressive country. The idea that they are depressed about it is one reason I feel pro-EU.
I think most folk in the EU punters and politicians alike have just moved on and no longer care. More important stuff to worry about
I suspect government "strategy" is to try to let Brexit damage hit slowly and incrementally.
Incremental, slow change together with Covid is going to mask massive change in the UK but it's slow enough that it's not obvious to most that the boat is sinking. Those that do realise will be too busy bailing out the boat to do much else anyway.
There’s nothing that smart going on here. The IT systems aren’t ready (still). The physical sites aren’t ready (still). The staff aren’t ready (still). The checks can’t be put in place ‘till next year because we aren’t ready for them (still). As predicted by some of us in 2016 when Brexit was being sold as easily and cheaply deliverable. And again in 2017 when politicians where ruling out any substantive close arrangements with the EU to minimise border issues. And again in 2019 when oven ready deals and getting things done were key political messages. And again when the EU offered us extensions on the transition period arrangements because they knew we wouldn’t be ready and they wanted everyone to focus on getting through the pandemic.
taking back control of our borders
That is the joke really. The system was to IMPORT cheap wage labourers into the UK, at the UK's behest, in order to maximize profits for the employers.
Low wages can be addressed by the UK government. They still need to do that. Employers can’t exploit workers on low pay without the blessing of the UK government. That is still the case after Brexit. It hasn’t changed. Anyone genuinely interested in sorting out low pay needs to look long and hard at the UK government in power thanks to Brexit. Telling foreigners they aren’t wanted was never the answer to low wages. All it has done is make it harder it to export, harder to deliver goods and services inside the UK, and harder for Brits to work outside the UK (unless they have a foreign passport).
There’s nothing that smart going on here. The IT systems aren’t ready (still). The physical sites aren’t ready (still). The staff aren’t ready (still). The checks can’t be put in place ‘till next year because we aren’t ready for them (still). As predicted by some of us in 2016 when Brexit was being sold as easily and cheaply deliverable. And again in 2017 when politicians where ruling out any substantive close arrangements with the EU to minimise border issues. And again in 2019 when oven ready deals and getting things done were key political messages. And again when the EU offered us extensions on the transition period arrangements because they knew we wouldn’t be ready and they wanted everyone to focus on getting through the pandemic.
Sensible people have always pointed out that even IF Brexit was a good idea in theory, the practicalities involved in extricating the UK from 40 odd years of alignment are so immense that even trying would be harmful.
Sensible people wouldn't normally have to worry about that, though, because sensible people know that Brexit is a stupid idea in theory AND in practice.
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Anyone genuinely interested in sorting out low pay needs to look long and hard at the UK government in power thanks to Brexit.
Economic disaster and low wages have already been compensated for - sovrunty. It's what the Brexity masses wanted, so it is a price worth paying, right?
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"the UK is acting very fairly and continuing with free trade, it's Europe that is being very aggressive and immediately imposed all these extra checks - not us"
Conservative MP George Freeman, on the UK's decision to postpone food check until 2022
Five years, and were still at the point where these folks get cross that the UK has to now deal with extra paperwork when they step outside the customs union that they used to be in
Five years, and were still at the point where these folks get cross that the UK has to now deal with extra paperwork when they step outside the customs union that they used to be in
Or pretend to get cross to keep their lumpen support happy.
I just find it amazing that the "deal" that apparently was both brilliant and easy to implement, has to be postponed again because...Reasons, while the EU goes ahead and observes the third country rules that we (as a nation) helped draw up, and Tory MPs think that regular folk can't see through their nonsense?
it’s Europe that is being very aggressive and immediately imposed all these extra checks
If only there had been an extension to the transition period on offer... if the EU were reasonable they'd have offered to delay imposing checks to help us, especially when focus needed to be on getting through the pandemic. What do you mean that's exactly what happened, and we slapped down the offer? Still their fault though, obviously. We chose to have the extra checks imposed. We chose when that would begin. All our choice. Yet all their fault.
think that regular folk can’t see through their nonsense?
Boris Johnson broke Britain. But as long as he can blame the EU, millions don't care.
Tory MPs think that regular folk can’t see through their nonsense?
Few are looking. Most don't care. Politicians of all stripes know this. For those directly affected it will happen slowly, quietly, and for the most part unseen and unremarked.
No one with any prospect of sorting this out is on the horizon so protect ourselves as best we can for now and hope you're not too badly affected. F all else you can do is there? Beyond getting a bit irked when hearing from otherwise reasonable people about the EU punishing us or it not being as bad as anyone said it would be I struggle to get too energetic about the whole thing now. It's just wasted energy.
It’s just wasted energy.
True. Except... it's set a trend for UK politics now. And "getting away with it" on such a grand scale means that politicians can employ the same tactics in many areas, not just our arrangements with the countries around us. If the accepted truth is just all the theatrics and messaging, not what's actually happening on the ground, then it's the former that you focus on, not the later. Great for winning, not so much for running a country. Now would be a good time to watch Adam Curtis' Hypernormalization again, especially the Surkov stuff.
Tory MPs
thinkknow that enough regular folk can’t see through their nonsense?
FTFY.
Now would be a good time to watch Adam Curtis’ Hypernormalization again, especially the Surkov stuff.
Very much so. I'm constantly reminded of the 'computer therapist' that just played the subject's ramblings back to them via questions that led them down a path of reinforcement and validation. Before long the subjects were insisting on time 'alone' with the computer. Despite knowing what the computer was doing.
Reinforce prejudice and ignorance. Tell people it is ok. Encourage it. Even better when you can use something like social meedya to target different lies to different groups.
And “getting away with it” on such a grand scale means that politicians can employ the same tactics in many areas,
Another week, another example of where we're going.
But hey, the poor & disadvantaged voted to be poorer and more disadvantaged - and that's what they're getting.
Liz Truss is foreign secretary. The perfect successor to Raab. 😉
Do you think any of this lot are up to the task of cleaning up the shit they delivered us?
https://twitter.com/jayrayner1/status/1438207358157705216?s=21
With depressing predictability, next stop 1955
https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/1438548409636556800?s=21