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Ah. Irony.
The irony of the irony is ‘they’ don’t get irony.
(I’m still struggling in getting a non-derogatory term ‘believers’is the only thing I’ve got atm.)
The Spanish deportations are a bit ironic thou and a lesson in ignoring reality.
Not sure though if its Brexit win in only allowing rich gammons to leave the country or not.(3rd country entry requirements for for Spain = mucho dinerio compared to previous)
(Interestingly spain is doing a deal with France so you can hold both passports, would be nice if they did that with the U.K. in the future)
Compensation.... bet he promised £350 million... its his usual number.
The shame of admitting to the press that you got shagged by Boris on many occasions..... my god the PTSD therapy alone would cost £700k.
On a more serious note there was a post on twitter along the lines of "when we have a female PM with six kids to three different partners and she has had multiple public affairs then we will have equality" sums it up really.
Sadly, it isn’t. This is the problem. The joke is on all of us collectively.
Ha. Ha.
Yeah but typically the most vocal cheerleaders for Brexit are the ones who are going to suffer more. The ones with >2 brain cells who are positioned to cash in are busily doing so right now. The OAP gammons have no skin in the game any more and lots of them have died off already.
Which leaves, basically, the 'shot myself in the foot' brigade who are gobbing off every now and then. They are so insecure and little that they feel they have to have pipe up every so often. Pathetic, but then that is entirely in keeping with Brexit itself.
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France now stopping British driver’s licence holders from using them due to lack of reciprocal agreement - fines for infringement. Residents can apply for a French one provided they take a theory test - in French. More frothing gammom in the Dordogne no doubt
Residents can apply for a French one provided they take a theory test – in French. More frothing gammom in the Dordogne no doubt
Shouldn't be a problem what with Brits abroad being so keen to immerse themselves in the language and culture.
I imagine they spent a lot of their time, before pissing off to the Dordogne, ranting about how 'immigrants should learn the language' of the country they have moved to. It would be hypocritical not to have picked up a decent amount of the lingo...
Ordered a few new accessories from Gopro last week.
Didnt realise Gopro were based in the EU.. no mention of this on the Gopro shop.
Will that mean a VAT bill / import duty?
My shipping status update this morning from UPS... Your parcel is delayed due to a Brexit related disruption.
One presumes an international driving permit is an option?
Oddly had my Spanish driving medical yesterday,didn’t think the idp cuts it once you a resident.
Not sure what the stance is in France thou.
One presumes an international driving permit is an option?
Only valid for visitors not residents
Sadly, it isn’t. This is the problem. The joke is on all of us collectively.
Ha. Ha.
I escaped bro, you can to.
When you leave you realize you were living on an island inhabited by lunatics and it feels like you've just escaped the Shawshank Prison.
Ordered a few new accessories from Gopro last week.
Didnt realise Gopro were based in the EU.. no mention of this on the Gopro shop.
Will that mean a VAT bill / import duty?
I’d be amazed if they’ve not got it covered,I used to get my pants from Aus and it was a nightmare originally then they sorted out the prepayment of taxes and it was painless.
It’s probably just stuck in a big pile somewhere and let’s not forget that’s supposedly without the U.K. doing the full checks 🙂
I escaped bro, you can to.
Ahh but they made it harder 🙂
Ahh but they made it harder
It can still be done.
Get networking on Linkedin or use a dating app to find yourself a local if you're single 😛
When you leave you realize you were living on an island inhabited by lunatics and it feels like you’ve just escaped the Shawshank Prison.
tbh I’ve got high fences and bars on the windows, sometimes feels like I’m in it rather than escaping it. 🙂
But you do get a different perspective,funny enough like the rich brexiters all down Monaco.
Prior to Brexit actually happening, I swapped my UK license for a Swedish one. Zero issues, took 10 days to do (including postage time) and now I have an approved ID as well as the ability to drive anywhere on the European mainland without having to have another piece of paper.
Sadly, that route is not available any more, so people moving here now have a year on their current driving licenses before they have to apply for a Swedish license. If they want to be legal that is. I mean, you could lie, but if you get caught out, you'll have that held against you if you go for citizenship.
Ordered a few new accessories from Gopro last week.
Didnt realise Gopro were based in the EU.. no mention of this on the Gopro shop.
Will that mean a VAT bill / import duty?
My shipping status update this morning from UPS… Your parcel is delayed due to a Brexit related disruption.
Same happened to me when ordering from the Asics outlet. Didn't have to pay any extra but it did take 10 days or more to arrive. They quoted 10/15 days so no worries.
Residents can apply for a French one provided they take a theory test – in French.
Oh, that is just brilliant 🙂
Oh, that is just brilliant
Isn't it just...🙂
As above, though, I'm sure what with Brits abroad being such culture vultures, I can't see a driving theory test in their adopted language being a problem...
Immigrants should assimilate after all - according to the gammons.
In my experience, the number of brits living in France who've been here for 20-odd years and who seem to be proud of the fact that they can hardly speak a word of French is surprisingly high. How on earth do they manage? I struggle a bit, but can't imagine how I'd get on with no French at all. They must all have someone to do it all for them, but I can't see that being allowed for the driving test!
BBC News: Brexit: UK 'risks falling behind' EU on workers’ rights
Really!
Wasn’t that the point behind the Brexit lies?
Wasn’t that the point behind the Brexit lies?
Yes. It was to cause a one-off rupture with the restrictions on employee exploitation that are part of being in the EU and to also starve public services of cash so the private sector (Tory mates) can feed on bits of it (the ones that are profitable in the short term).
The Honda Swindon thing is the perfect metaphor. The tories are hailing it as a triumph. But what is, in effect, happening is (made up numbers) 100 skilled jobs with an annual wage bill of £3.5m are being replaced with 120 lower skilled jobs with an annual wage bill of £2.7m. These replacement jobs will also be less secure because lower skilled jobs nearly always are - the lower the skills required the more people can do the job.
Welcome to Amazon Britain.
Once again, after talking something up (Britain not only maintaining its role in international science programmes after Brexit, but increasing it) the government acts in the exact opposite way....
https://www.google.com/search?q=science+funding&source=lnms&tbm=nws
>> (for prosperity and international readers, here's those search results) >>
UK scientists warn of 'catastrophic' impact of funding cuts
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2021/mar/31/uk-scientists-funding-cuts-grants-foreign-aid
Government warned against making ‘catastrophic’ funding cuts to British science
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/covid-uk-science-funding-latest-b1824573.html
UK's 'science superpower' status under threat over cuts to global health research
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/uks-science-superpower-status-threat-cuts-global-health-research/
Science funding under threat, as universities ‘alarmed’ by UK government’s silence
https://eandt.theiet.org/content/articles/2021/03/universities-urge-clarity-on-future-of-science-and-innovation-funding/
Details on science funding scarce in latest UK budget
https://www.chemistryworld.com/news/details-on-science-funding-scarce-in-latest-uk-budget/4013340.article
Research cuts put UK’s reputation at risk, say academics
https://www.ft.com/content/860ff4aa-fab0-4046-9196-2e151807d70e
UK universities call for Johnson to halt research funding cuts
https://www.theguardian.com/education/2021/mar/16/uk-universities-call-for-johnson-to-halt-research-funding-cuts
UK research into malaria set to be halted after government cuts vital funding
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/malaria-uk-research-covid-africa-b1824334.html
‘Devastating’ cuts to UK Research and Innovation funding for science
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/devastating-cuts-to-uk-research-and-innovation-funding-for-science-m638l6zh3
‘We must adapt’: EU research chief on Europe’s €100-billion funding programme
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-00834-1
^^^
But that will be rubbished by their bots and stooges as 'Remoaner Propaganda' and 'Elitist Misinformation'.
And the morons who spend more than thirty seconds every morning trying to work out which shoe to put on which foot will buy it. And they don't care anyway.
They've just had a discussion on Five Live with a selection of business owners from different sectors of the economy who trade with the EU.
All said the same. They recounted the same sorry tale of mountains of new paperwork, where none was required before, and the obviously massively increased costs and huge delays due to the time all this additional bureaucracy now takes.
It absolutely defies all logic that a country has voluntarily impose all this on itself. This UK has hobbled its own businesses and simply made them all uncompetitive in a global market. If another country had imposed these conditions on us, there would be uproar.
In response to all theses business owners pointing out the folly of all this, the government spokesman refused to even acknowledged any of it, let alone engage with it, and just reiterated the standard statement
"The UK has taken back control of our .... blah, blah ****ing blah...."
didn't they get the Johnson memo "**** business" ?
did they own up to which way they voted in the GE by any chance ?
John Le Carre.
Urbane, intelligent, sophisticated, worldly, erudite, fair-minded, progressive, realistic.
No wonder he didn't like Brexit. It is the very opposite of his best character traits.
The Brompton is with the douane:
"Nº ID ou ajrnmnt Ein/Tva/Eori/Pers importateur requis pour dédouanement. Nous nous efforçons d’obtenir ces informations."
Pre-Brexit I reckon it would already be with me, DPD or UPS from the UK was generally three days. Friction free my arse.
Urbane, intelligent, sophisticated, worldly, erudite, fair-minded, progressive, realistic.
That would be his Irish roots. 😃
Just like Liam Gallagher.
That would be his Irish roots.
I don't recall ever seeing him with a pig under his arm....
Meh the mass deportations of ex-pats from Spain cos they never registered before Brexit and don’t have papers.
“Possession of a residence document is not a prerequisite for lawful residence in accordance with Union law because under Union law the right of residence is conferred directly on EU citizens by the Treaty and is not dependent upon having fulfilled administrative procedures.
CAB Spain
So not really getting those mirror/sun stories although the local Tesco were having issues with getting sausages so that may have traumatised some people to rush back to the U.K. without actually checking their rights.
My Spanish supermarket is still getting cheddar under their own brand (but made in the u.k.) and the imported Branson pickle trade still flourishes.
Critical point being " EU citizens" - ex pat brits no longer are EU citizens
Critical point being ” EU citizens” – ex pat brits British Migrants no longer are EU citizens
Ties in with withdrawal agreement thou
Those protected by the Withdrawal Agreement who have not yet acquired permanent residence rights – if they have not lived in the host state for at least five years – will be fully protected by the Withdrawal Agreement, and will be able to continue residing in the host state and acquire permanent residence rights in the host state after accumulating five years of residence.
I said this would happen a couple of years ago to my Brexit voting mates who lived in Spain - what a Turkey. They own a villa that they bought from cashing in their lucrative share save scheme when one of the public utilities was sold.
Ties in with withdrawal agreement thou
Well, in the UK you had to apply to make use of that protection, it wasn’t automatic. Haven’t some EU countries reciprocated and applied the same bureaucratic gotcha?
and will be able to continue residing in the host state and acquire permanent residence rights in the host state after accumulating five years of residence.
yes - buy conforming to the usual requirements including doing the paperwork, having health insurance, paying taxes etc
Well, in the UK you had to apply to make use of that protection, it wasn’t automatic. Haven’t some EU countries reciprocated and applied the same bureaucratic gotcha?
They launched a new TIE card that you had to apply for if you didn’t already have an old green residential card.
(Extra tick box for withdrawal rights).
Where I’m going is that retirees that lived here before Brexit and even without paperwork wouldn’t necessarily be deported according to the Spanish cab.(course if you can’t be assed to engage)
If your working and tax avoiding ymmv.
Pal of mine had to apply for residence here having been here under EU rules for many years and running her own business. the kafkaesque bureaucratic expensive nightmare that ensued was ridiculous
Covid hasn’t really helped the mind bending Spanish bureaucracy tbh.
Just looking to order a few bike bits. Everything I want is 25% more expensive than it was when I looked back in December. The computer screen tempts me with images of the same products at nearly half the price in that there Euroland but it all seems so tantalisingly out of reach....When I say yes, computer says no.
Perhaps the government is pushing us to the point that it will be cheaper to get your local blacksmith to forge a cassette for you than importing one, bringing traditional industries back to life sort of thing.
Perhaps the government is pushing us to the point that it will be cheaper to get your local blacksmith to forge a cassette for you than importing one, bringing traditional industries back to life sort of thing.
It seems that brexit cheerleader Redwood thinks the government aren't doing enough to encourage those blacksmiths
https://twitter.com/johnredwood/status/1378343409774166020?s=19
John isn’t very sharp, is he?
He still hasn’t figured out that he, along with his Brexity chums have just voluntarily placed a load of additional costs and regulations on our fishing and farming industries if they want to just carry on selling to their largest market
It’s actually staggering to realise that people this thick have managed to get where they are. That’s establishment nepotism for you, I suppose
Let alone the fact that anyone with any sense will just save up a bit more and still by the stuff from overseas. Save by..... maybe not going to the pub or not eating out as often etc etc.
Brexit utopians really are the thickest of the thick. As thick as two short planks glued together with pig shit sat in a vat of pig shit.
It’s the Brexiteer’s suggestions that our fisherman should now concentrate on selling frozen food to half-way around the world rather than premium quality, fresh-seafood to Europeans who are happy to pay for it.
What John hasn't realised is that you can't have your cake and eat it, which is presumably what he thought would happen.
John will never realise it either because like most Brexiteers he’s so dense that light bends around him
Perhaps the government is pushing us to the point that it will be cheaper to get your local blacksmith to forge a cassette for you than importing one, bringing traditional industries back to life sort of thing.
They just want you to be quiet, keep flying the flag and buy it from Amazon. Asset-stripping (especially public assets) takes time before their inevitable exit/replacement by another greedy mob (dressed as pseudo-neo-liberals in some ‘New Populist’ attire). By which time division and confusion shall reign. We’re decades away from the point where a few inconsequential Brexiteers may look back with 20/20 vision and think ‘hold your horses...’. At which point, there was no point.
Predictably:
Friday and Saturday nights' events didn't make it into the British media until now, curious.
Events in NI were on the BBC yesterday
But not on Saturday or last week when what are described in my local press as "riots" started.
On Friday, there were violent scenes in the Sandy Row area of Belfast as well.
In Derry, police have been subjected to sustained attacks across several nights in the last week in loyalist areas of the Waterside part of the city.
There were 27 police officers injured on Friday night across Belfast and Derry.
It was in the Guardian on Saturday.
People rioting about the effects of something they voted for and their political leaders championed despite overall opposition to it in the region, it’s kinda brilliant in its own moronic way.
July is going to be a right barrel of laughs there.
I dispute that, Kilo. Feel free to post something dated earlier than my link. They sometimes hide importatn events away in the minor stories but I read every headline on the home page Saturday night.
John being a slick political operator earlier.
Brexit: created and pushed by cynics, believed in by idiots.
Ffs, doesn’t google work in France;)
Sat 3 Apr 2021 14.10 BST
Stormont’s first minister has joined calls for calm after riots in Belfast, urging young people “not to get drawn into disorder” and parents to protect their children.
Thank you, Kilo. And no Google doesn't work and nor does the relevant article system on the Guardian site because without you link I still can't find it. Not the first time either.
The endless brain farts of Redwood on twitter speak to a chronically stupid man
I'm amazed how he gets through life, let alone how he became an MP
I am not sure so sure that Redwood is as thick as mince, was he not thought of as some kind of mekon in the 80's? Even his wikipedia page has the line that "preference for making arguments with logic over passion"
I'd have thought he's just another determinist right-winger sort of like Irritable Duncan Smith but with qualifications in history.
Newtownards rioting - definitely in the English Media Saturday.
Newtownards rioting – definitely in the English Media Saturday.
Yup - I read it in several places
A song for Brexit, part whatever...
“There may be Troubles ahead,
But while there's hedge funds, tax dodges,
And cash and romance,
Don’t face the music, let’s dance.
Before us fiddlers have fled,
Before they ask us to pay the bill,
And while we still have that chance,
Don’t face the music, let’s dance.”
Dark humour corner
Surely Redwood being a champion of leaving the EU had a cunning plan (with the others) for how the UK would be shaped when they had got their wish (duped the morons). Surely they have not demolished the house without even having planning permission for the new one.
I am not sure so sure that Redwood is as thick as mince, was he not thought of as some kind of mekon in the 80’s?
Nah, initially his slightly manic look was thought by some to indicate some sort of Cummings-esque 'evil genius' (in a Dangermouse villain sense), but the satirists and journos pinged him pretty quickly after that - as a ****ing moron.
A role he has fulfilled with unswerving natural ability and devotion ever since...
Edit: In those days it was possible to be a (pretty much) unknown quantity before getting a cabinet post.
It was also a (comparatively) sensible era where 'hardline eurosceptic' was journalist shorthand for 'borderline nutjob who should never be allowed anywhere near real power'.
Not the meaning it has today - 'hero of the Fatherland'.
Stormont’s first minister has joined calls for calm after riots in Belfast, urging young people “not to get drawn into disorder” and parents to protect their children.
I still don't think that the Brexiteer nut-jobs in Westminster realise what they're dealing with here. Either that or they simply don't care and consider it all 'a price worth paying' for their Brexit hobbyhorse.
They really are playing with fire with their nonchalant attitude to all this. They seem to be foolishly assuming that things can't go back to the bad old days of endemic violance and conflict. Unfortunately I think it'll take the bombings and shootings to start again before they start paying attention
Nah, initially his slightly manic look was thought by some to indicate some sort of Cummings-esque ‘evil genius’ (in a Dangermouse villain sense), but the satirists and journos pinged him pretty quickly after that – as a ****ing moron.
fair enough - certainly not defending him as I regard him and his ilk as both dangerously self-interested and the end of a bell.
IMO the brexiteer nut jobs come in 3 varieties.
Too dim to understand
Understand but deluded that its a price worth paying
Totally uncaring as all they want is the money it will bring them
They really are playing with fire with their nonchalant attitude to all this. They seem to be foolishly assuming that things can’t go back to the bad old days of endemic violance and conflict. Unfortunately I think it’ll take the bombings and shootings to start again before they start paying attention
Plus there are external ‘dark forces’ prepared to fement, fund and provide weapons to dissident groups - the likes of Putin must be laughing his socks off, laundering his squandered billions through the City whilst reminding ‘those in charge’ that he has other levers to pull.
Vassal state, eh?
Today's brexit bonus- 12 speed chains. Everyday level chains ie not the £100 madness are all low stock in the UK, mail order is either out or scalping prices, my local bike shop has no idea when they'll have stock. CRC has literally none under £55... So once again ordering from the EU, and paying the new higher prices to do so and not being able to buy from the best options because they won't ship here. 50% more expensive than it was 2 years ago for the exact same product and a good chunk of that is in shipping.
I think in relation to Northern Ireland the Government simply don't care. Wether or not they understand the complexities (they ovviously don't) is a moot point. Not to worry, maybe the gov't can just introduce a swathe of new laws like the 10 years for a statue thing and restricting the right to protest, that should sort out the troubles. How about 15 years for burning the Union Jack? That should fix it, enabling the gov't to take back controll and all that.
This is not the Conservative party anymore it's the English National Party. That Union Jack they are waving is literally a false flag. Their approach to the other nations is simply colonialist, (as I'm sure many a Scot or Northern Irish on here would tell you). It's something the Welsh who voted for Brexit will soon be finding out as well, that those in Wesminster have their interests neither at heart, or even in mind.
True that. Anyone pushing for brexit was either totally willing to sacrifice northern ireland, or didn't even care enough about northern ireland to gain the understanding of what brexit would do there. You can't believe in the union, in the United Kingdom, and do that.
"We’re decades away from the point where a few inconsequential Brexiteers may look back with 20/20 vision and think ‘hold your horses…’. At which point, there was no point."
At which point, they'll be dead....
Agree with your other points though, that when the time is up for this mob they will be replaced by another bunch of wronguns dressed as neo-liberals. The sad thing is with the Labour party as it is the best we can hope for is for there to be an internal party coup and the few conservatives left in the party can 'get their party back.'
With that in mind I find myself scrutinizing Tory MP's to see if there are any who are resisting the Nationalist / racist bullshit. So far I can only see Hancock and Javid refusing to blow the dog whistle. That's how bad things are, hoping that a grifter and an Ayn Rand devotee depose the current leadership.
I must be mad, as I'm sure someone on here is about to tell me.
Anyone pushing for Brexit was either totally willing to sacrifice Northern Ireland, or didn’t even care enough about Northern Ireland to gain the understanding of what Brexit would do there.
Or most likely Northern Ireland didn't even enter their heads, cause it's a bit foreign and the people there speak funny and it's not in the home counties or oop north.
I've got a full drivetrain waiting to go on my bike as I stocked up in early December pre-Brexshit - for precisely the reasons of price and availability which were bound to result from the combination of covid insanity and Brexshit bit of a mess.
I think
in relation to Northern Irelandthe Government simply don’t care.
FTFY.
Can’t we at least all agree that a Brexit has been a very good thing for a Nigel?
That has to be worth something?*
According to every 3rd youtube ad I seem to get his smug mug telling us that he’s at time of writing bagged 80,000 subscribers to his F*rtune and Freed*m precious metal-buying newsletter daily email. A snip at £199pa. Or 54 and a half pence per day in old money.
All publicity is good publicity (as in there is no bad publicity that is not also good publicity) for such a cheeky monkey. Have one on me, you naughty scamp, what a right proper legend etc:
https://www.ft.com/content/450bd1f6-47fa-4a5b-ab8e-0ecdff7ab60b
*£16mil
For an email.
Sixteen million.
That’s SIXTEEN MILLION.
Nigel’s lovely big smile just proves to the world that whatever else you’re doing - you’re obviously doing it wrong. Be like Nigel. Make something good happen from something you may not like. Nigel allegedly didn’t like a Few Things. From that alleged dislike of those Few Things, Nigel simply made something good happen for Nigel.
So even if you didn’t like Brexit, why not be like Nigel and instead make your dislike work for you? All that is required is passion, billboards, and a few friends in the right places. and a keen non-swivelling eye on your goal.
It’s interesting how he’s made been thrown money, hating the EU but being well paid by them for years, he was probably gutted when he got his Brexit, then he did the pay £100 to be an MP raffle,then I think he was trying to get Tommy’s job and cash in on that market now he’s pimping investment advice.
Funny what getting on the telly and being shouty can achieve for you 🙂
Doesn’t seem to be so keen on fishing now thou 🙂