Is that the Crime Industry? They love Freeports…
They do indeed. As do tax evaders. Britain is being set up as a tax haven off the coast of Europe
And a deregulated city is going to be what the Bank of Panama was during the 1980’s. A laundering operation for dodgy Russian Oligarchs, Mexican drug cartels and any other dodgy bastard with bent money that needs cleaning.
The price of property in Chelsea and Knightsbridge is about to go through the roof
unions will be there to fight our corner.
Course they will. If they can make capital out of it, otherwise forget it.
Who would have guessed that the French are threatening to blockade the UK
These people come across on this thread as the front men and are derided as idiots, its implied on this thread that there are people behind the government seeking to lower standards, who are they?
Liz Truss and all the Brexiteer cabinet ministers are all shit-thick useful idiots. You can bet your arse that the second they lose their ministerial positions they’ll immediately be appointed to obscenely paid ‘consultancy’ roles for a lot of the companies who stand to benefit from Brexit
As with most things in life, follow the money. Look who funded that Brexit Leave Campaign, then Boris’s leadership campaign.
Men like Crispin Odey
Are Boris Johnson's Hedge Fund Backers Driving Policy?
Binners, with any luck Odey will be deprived of an opportunity and his liberty as a result of the sexual assault charges which he, naturally, is denying.
You have to wonder why Odey is allowed to make hundreds of millions out of what is, in effect, insider trading.
I guess if you commit your crimes on a big enough scale it is potentially too embarrassing to prosecute you....
Dannyh
Not saying you are wrong but the opposite happened in my company, we received extra hols over the 28 minimum as we were losing employees to our workforce competitors.
Skilled jobs I'll admit.
I’m going to go out on a limb here and guess that Iain Duncan Smith, Jacob Rees-Mogg and Dominic Raab didn’t go into politics fuelled by a passionate desire to make sure everyone got more paid holidays.
And there you have it (see above) the foremost reason for Brexshit. Disaster capitalists making a fast buck, see the Bloomberg documentary from a few years ago. Farage features in it quite a bit.
I hope those wanting answers to why Brexshit is happening, are starting to see why, and maybe starting to realise there is nothing more to Brexshit than a money making scheme for the extremely rich.
Dannyh
Not saying you are wrong but the opposite happened in my company, we received extra hols over the 28 minimum as we were losing employees to our workforce competitors.
Skilled jobs I’ll admit.
I know the opposite is happening somewhere else. 'Flexibility' (I.e. making people less secure and more easy to screw over) is the buzzword right now.
Skilled jobs I’ll admit.
And this is the key issue. The fortunate, those with skills in demand, will be fine. We'll get paid and have cushy jobs. Everyone else will get ****ed over. This has always been the problem, which is why we have labour laws guaranteeing workers rights.
This is what's referred to as 'inequality'.
When they ‘Get Brexit Done’ They’re going to set about to do to the middle classes what Thatcher did to the working classes in the 80’s and 90’s. And they’re going to kick the ****ing shit out of the working classes just from force of habit.
Just to repeat: this is no longer anything resembling a Tory party in any recognisable form. Bar the fruit loops on the back benches. There’s nothing ‘one nation’ about this lot. The lunatics have taken over the asylum.
This whole Brexit project is about furthering the interests of the 1%. Or more likely the 0.00001%. A tax haven billionaires playground in London with a great big sweatshop attached to it.
I wonder if there's any independent body that might monitor who will truly benefit from Brexit? Love to see Ian Duncan Smith et al doing time.
I wonder if there’s any independent body that might monitor who will truly benefit from Brexit?
Probably the same ones that should make sure referendum campaigns are honest and fair
I wonder if there’s any independent body that might monitor who will truly benefit from Brexit?
Probably the same ones that should make sure referendum campaigns are honest and fair
I think this is probably going to be the most important question in the west for at least the next 10 years: How can democracy continue to function in any meaningful way, now that politicians have figured out that they can just lie, lie lie, about anything and everything, and (as has been amply demonstrated) there are simply no repercussions for doing so - at least not any significant enough to dissuade them from lying in the first place.
I have no idea what the solution to this looks like - and I know that politicians have always lied/cheated, but how does democracy respond to finding itself in a post-truth world where the old adage of a lie getting halfway round the world while the truth is still tying it's shoelaces, has never been truer.
I wonder if there’s any independent body that might monitor who will truly benefit from Brexit? Love to see Ian Duncan Smith et al doing time.
Err who's in charge for the next four years?
Illegal proroguing of parliament was just the tip of the iceberg. It really worries me how fragile our democracy actually could be against these cheats and liars.
The worry for me is that upcoming economic implosion will enable really nasty political movements to gain in popularity. I mean, Farage and his Tory sleeper cell are nasty, but they are primarily using right wing populism as a means to line their own pockets. What if a total nutter formed a party? Given the mood music behind Brexit and the genuinely nasty emotions stirred up before, during and after, who is to say a really vile movement wouldn't succeed?
Certainly a lot of the stuff I saw on social media was along the lines of "this is just the start, we are the unheard Patriots" etc.
What if a total nutter formed a party?
Agreed - Trump has written the playbook, there are lots of people paying attention.
Robert 'Honest Bob' Jenrick will be taking his turn to lie and be made to look a twerp defending fatboy on R4 in a bit. Tune in to hear someone who knows he is lying and sounding ridiculous, but doesn't care because he is eyeing up a nice fat bank balance.
He gets a regular trot out, presumably because he got to keep his job despite admitting to acting illegally. Johnson wins him 100%.
And this is the key issue. The fortunate, those with skills in demand, will be fine. We’ll get paid and have cushy jobs. Everyone else will get **** over. This has always been the problem, which is why we have labour laws guaranteeing workers rights.
This is what’s referred to as ‘inequality’.
I was having an equivalent conversation on Twitter with a Leaver regarding Human Rights.
As usually they were totally against anything even vaguely to do with 'Europe', including the ECHR. So I just asked, "which human right are YOU happy to lose". Yep, flounced off.
All these folk wanting less rights for workers/H&S/environment etc don't believe it'll impact THEM. But for the majority, it will impact them, they're just too stupid to see it.
Now for another happy thought, constituency boundary reform, AKA gerrymandering.
Allowing the Scots to have another ref would be the most effective route to permatory rule down here.
And this is the key issue. The fortunate, those with skills in demand, will be fine. We’ll get paid and have cushy jobs. Everyone else will get **** over. This has always been the problem, which is why we have labour laws guaranteeing workers rights.
This is what’s referred to as ‘inequality’.
Vividly remember chatting to my leaver mate about Airbus and potential job losses - his solution was "retrain". As ****ing what?!?
As **** what?!?
Fruit picker.
Fruit picker.
That's pretty much it at the moment - perfect for ex-aerospace engineers.
Sorry, but when I cease to be an aerospace engineer, I'm full expecting those lazy ****ers that "have had their jobs stolen by the eastern europeans" to be my servant. I'm generous, I'm not going to come back and steal their job opportunities. I expect them to be my fruit picker, shelf packer, bus driver, plumber, ...
Those that have not been able to work "due to immigrants" should not only have first dibs, but should also be forced to do such jobs.
Oh they didn't really have their jobs stolen?
I shall retrain as a professional early retiree, and expect them to both fund that, and serve me.
Now for another happy thought, constituency boundary reform, AKA gerrymandering.
Remember like policing governing is by consent. We may have to withdraw our consent in a manner that leaves those in the executive in no doubt that they are going the wrong way.
Those that have not been able to work “due to immigrants” should not only have first dibs, but should also be forced to do such jobs.
Reunified Ireland.
Independent Scotland.
Now this!
Why was I ever indifferent to Brexit?
Just had a message from my sister in law who lives in Austria. She’s posted some stuff for Christmas but says that DPD there not accepting parcels for the uk after 18th December due to uncertainty over tariffs etc.
Easiest. Deal. Ever.
Well done leavers 👏👏 you’ve got what you wanted. Now what?
I think this is probably going to be the most important question in the west for at least the next 10 years: How can democracy continue to function in any meaningful way,
Very off topic, but I believe you are in Australia @batfink ? Do you have similar issues down there?
Those that have not been able to work “due to immigrants” should not only have first dibs, but should also be forced to do such jobs
I expect you'll find benefits reduced quite a lot too. The cabinet are decidedly unkeen on people who don't work.
I expect you’ll find benefits reduced quite a lot too.
Benefits? Not while there's all that fruit that needs picking...
The cabinet are decidedly unkeen on people who don’t work.
Unless they are PM.
It makes me so angry, how have the know-it-alls let this happen? Squirming away from their responsibility, moaning and frothing, blaming everyone but themselves.
It makes me sick, they've sat on their arses for decades living the Thatcher dream, behaving more like the elites than the norms.
It's time to call these scum out and force them to act. Not only do they sit and watch while the neighbour's house burns down, they sat there knowing a fire was about to start. It's shameful.
Sorry for the ranting buy I am so fed up with the apathy of the know-it-alls, I just need to vent.
Who are these know it alls?
Don't bother.
I've never seen exsee and ckewkw in the same room. Makes you think.
Would the know-it-alls ever consider getting involved in politics?
Not a bloody chance unless their bubbles get popped.
Busy looking after themselves living like right wingers but claiming they hate the right wing.
Think back to the European parliament elections, the know-it-alls were frothing about e petitions while farage and co were hammering the EU
Top job know-it-alls, 30 years of apathy have led us here, I hope you're proud💩
Don't take drugs, kids.
Or start drinking too early
30 years of apathy have led us here
Hard to disagree with this. Is Exsee a know-it-all?
Yep
You may jest Kelvin but the more I rant and point out the truth, the more responsibility I feel, I'm getting my inspiration back, I feel energised again. The ranting is just the beginning for me, I'm going to burst a few know-it-all bubbles and drag them kicking and screaming back to their roots.
The know-it-alls need a kick up the ahole, could I do more, oh yes, much much more 😤
Where the **** are all the norms on here, why aren't they shutting down the sneering know-it-alls that troll the shit out of every political thread
Call the scum out, force them to act
If they have all the answers then why didn't they do anything. Sneering at their brothers and sisters like good little right wingers. Scum
Just though id dip into this thread...saw some recent posts
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EU making some encouraging noises, still waiting for Boris to pop up and say he won't sign a deal unless they make him king of the world or some such nonsense though.
I'm sorry exsee I'm not sure what your position actually is.
You seem to hate neoliberals - which most people on this thread will share.
You seem to be pro Brexit though, and it's harder to figure out why.
