[Closed] Bread makers and slow cookers

bread makers make awful bread IMHO- you can have mine if you want it

Slow cooker gets some use but not loads as you still have to remember to put the food in it - good for stews or for a soup type thing

Slow cooker great for stews, curries, pulled pork and beef brisket. Gets used a fair bit in our house.
Bread maker is a long term resident of the understairs cupboard though.

We've used a breadmaker regularly for over ten years. Way better than all but the ponciest bakers.

My missus gets "ours" out once a year, to justify the space they take up in the back of the kitchen cupboard. 🙂

Good bread makers are good. They are what they are, its not going to be like going to your local artisan baker but good ones make nice loaves quietly and reliably

So-so breadmakers suffer from being noisy and also if they don't run good programmes then you can get a lot of badly risen loaves.

The STW-fave panasonic bread makers have two advantages over a lot of others - one is the motor and mechanism is almost silent - use the timer for overnight bread making and you won't be woken up by wailing, grinding motors art 3 in the morning (and I'm not distracted by having it running while I'm working). The other is the programmer takes human error out of the set up. My old kenwood left it for you to decide what 'tepid' water was when putting the ingredients in - starting with water that was to cold (or a kitchen that was too cold) meant the dough would rise too slowly and give small heavy loaves. The panasonic starts by doing nothing for half an hour or than bring the contents of the machine up to a starting temperature - water from the tap, butter from the fridge - all warmed through to a set temp before the motor starts - absolutely dependable results.

Won't cook pulses/beans I guess?

You guess incorrectly 🙂

We use both: bread maker daily; slow cooker weekly.

We have not bought bread since we got the maker.

OP you can burn stuff in a slow cooker if you don’t put in enough liquid but it’s pretty fool proof. Great for sticking on before you go out for a ride / walk and coming back to a lovely hot meal. Breadmaker I’ve never used but I enjoy making loaves from scratch by hand, reality is Indo that rarely as it takes quite a bit of time.

Of the two I’d take the slow cooker, wait for an offer on a rice cooker if you fancy another gadget. I was always very sceptical then I discovered all the locals have one in Singapore - reliable, consistent and keeps rice warm.

Fortnightly slow cooker user here, awesome machine. Also weekly rice cooker user, simple easy and fast, it was less than £15 from Wilkinson's, probably 7 years old, still doing it like a pro.

Won't cook pulses/beans I guess?

Slow cookers are awesome. Put on delicious dish that is best cooked slowly for hours at breakfast time. Clear off out for the day doing fun stuff and arrive home to a delicious hot meal. What not to like?!

We have two. One is a minute maid that's probably older than me. Well fitting lid, nice low even heat. The other one is some cheap "item" from Argos. It's ok when it's loaded up near the top with a massive bit of meat and sauce but it's really slightly too hot even on low and the lid is a crap fit.

I think what I'm saying is buy the right size and don't go too budget.

As for bread makers I had one and even the worst loaf it turned out was better than any packet loaves from the local convenience shop. If you have a decent baker nearby who is open whenever you want bread then great but I didn't. It was lost in a "splitting of the possessions" over a decade ago and much missed. Maybe I should buy one!

Breadmakers have 2 disadvantages.

They can't ever make a proper crust, and they can't make bread as good as the bakery bit of my local lidl does.

So, I'm out.

Thanks all. Might see what's left in my local Aldi tomorrow

Slow cooker = Orsum
Bread maker = Wasted cupboard space. Far better to have a Kenwood (many other uses) and just make bread yourself.

Both have there a place, even a cheap slow cooker though is more likely to be used/effective. I’m intrigued by the aldi bread maker - if it has a custom program for that price it could be very good. Otherwise you will struggle to adapt general recipes.

I doubt many people are using either to save money. They are used either for convenience or because the end result is better than the alternative.

Finally, beware many are family sized - if slow cooking for one you’ll either want to freeze the left overs or find it wasteful. Fresh bread doesn’t last as long as mass produced shop bread. Depending on size of pan you may struggle to eat that much.

We’ve had bread makers since the late 1990s. Various ones over the years, some better than others. We have a Panasonic now, not one of the all singing ones, and it’s the best one so far. Very consistent and makes a nice loaf. In all that time ours have been used pretty much daily.

I'm using our bread maker daily at the moment - but I just use it for making and rising the dough, for which it's excellent. Then just chuck it on a baking sheet and oven bake. Baking the dough in the breadmaker is a bit hit and miss and gives the pan-shaped loaf.

Slow cooker - definitely. We upgraded recently to a combined slow cooker and pressure cooker, double good. Had some awesome stews, briskets, last week's chilli con carne using slow cooked brisket was a masterpiece.

Breadmakers - in theory good but we don't eat enough to make it worthwhile, and if I want fresh bread then quick (you can be eating it in 40 mins) soda bread is my go-to which needs nothing fancy* and tastes great.

* OK, buttermilk but I usually have a pot in in case, and you can do it with milk and bicarb or yogurt if you need to. Google recipes, I use BBC ones.

We've got a cheap slow cooker. It's ok, but I'm pretty sure it runs too hot, so it dries out the meat a bit of you're not careful. As far as i can see it's not thermostatically controlled, it just gives it constant heat at a certain level. I've measured it at over 90 degrees on low, which is far too hot. My advice would be to get one that's thermostatic.

Bread makers? I'm a purist with this one, I've never had a loaf made in one that's anything like a good as a home made loaf, however you can't deny how much easier it is, and I can't do fresh bread anything like as early in the day as you can with a bread maker.
If you want to cut out the kneading but then you can just use a food mixer if you've already got one.

I don't really understand the point of slow cookers. The worst time of day for me to prepare any sort of food is in the morning before work(morning rush) etc.

I work from home one day a week if I want to cook casseroles or for example my 6 hour ragu sauce, otherwise there is the weekend or overnight cooking in a normal cast iron pot in the oven or on the hob. What do they actually offer?

+1 slow cooker

-1 bread maker

Our bread maker has been used daily since buying it 5 or 6 years ago (actually it might be longer than that). Fresh bread in the morning, plus it gets used for dough making for posher looking bread, and pizza bases. Ours is a Panasonic and have never tried a cheaper version, but have heard results can be variable between brands - so not sure how good the Aldi option would be.

In comparison our slow cooker gets used once a month.

wait for an offer on a rice cooker if you fancy another gadget. I was always very sceptical then I discovered all the locals have one in Singapore - reliable, consistent and keeps rice warm.

This. I can't cook rice for some reason - it's simple enough, heaven knows! Bought a small rice cooker, job done. As jamba says (sort of), a billion Chinese can't be wrong!

Both great I'm best case scenarios.

Bread is fab with panny and the correct flour. No additives or sugar is great for me.

Flavour is fab.

We use it every other day.

Slow cooker as and when. We have star chef and it's been around for 10 years.

Juicers however which are much much better than shelf orange juice are a faff.

I don't really understand the point of slow cookers. The worst time of day for me to prepare any sort of food is in the morning before work(morning rush) etc

Certain cuts of meat really respond to very long low temperatures, nothing else but a slow cooker will give the same easy result every time and cost pence to run. They’re damn cheap to buy too. Ours is 30 yrs old and gets used twice a week.

Great if you’ve got kids too, you can be entertaining the little delights off in the woods whilst dinner takes care of itself. They may of course, not suit your very exact lifestyle but for most ^ I think they’re near enough essential.

Can't comment on the Aldi bread maker, the Panasonic one we've got makes really nice bread.

Only problem for me was Bread maker = weight gain. I was making a loaf every day in life. You'll be needing bigger jeans....avoid.

I usually just use our breadmaker for making dough, then I shape it and cook it in the oven for 20 min (buns or pizza bases usually). It's quicker and much nicer than just leaving it in the breadmaker for a loaf (but more faff obvs). It's worth having one just for that IMHO. I like to experiment with different flavours/ingredients. I don't bother with the whole sticking the ingredients in after the second beep nonsense either, just chuck it all in, option 8 and wait 90min.

We used to have a bread maker. Became a faff. Expensive way to have bread which is only marginally better than decent shop bought stuff and unless you eat a lot of bread you end up chucking alot away because it doesn't keep for long. Maybe Ross' method is better, but you still end up with a lot of bread kicking about unless you keep on top of eating it.

Slow cooker is great. We use ours every week, which is an Aldi one. We both work so great for chucking stuff in in the morning and having something ready to eat when we all get back from work and school.

I have the Panasonic one they are raving about and it it is still shit bread from it

I have no idea how anyone can think that output is great nbread
Convenient yes
easy yes
Tasty no
Tolerable yes

Bought a Panasonic bread maker primarily to cut out evil Palm oil.

A mate said I'd use it a couple of times an then never use it again. Used it 3 times a week for the last 1 1/2 years. Have made good bread and terrible bread. When I'm not lazy and follow the instructions it tends to come out pretty good.

I'm sure it works out a lot cheaper.

Do any bread makers have a decent proove on them ? Strikes me that 90 minute for a loaf is rather quick.

I find a loaf has a much nicer taste if proven for a decent length of time.

I have two slow cookers (*waves genitalia around wildly*)

A small one which is great for chilli, curries etc (just brown the meat a bit in a pan first for best results)

And a big one for roasts etc, pulled pork is also awesome easy slow cooker recipe

A cool prove always getting better results and more flavor than a warm one imho. You can't rush bread.
Also a second one after the first rest. A bread maker just doesn't do that bit well.

However, complaining about it wasting half the loaf is daft.
Wait for it to cool (you do this a bit before slicing anyways, right, you heathens?) Then slice it and freeze it. Toast it straight from the freezer. Or wrap it on the day you cook it, then 'refresh' it in the oven on about 180 for 15 minutes or so the next day. You can do this several times with the same loaf.

@pictonroad I'm aware of some meat benefiting from being cooked slowly. But genuinely, why do it in a slow cooker? Why not the hob or the oven on the lowest setting. The process may not be the same,as easy as you put it.. but the result is still the same no? I do an Osso buco that takes 8 hours , , only once or twice a year admittedly. Appreciate the cost part however. No (slow cooked) beef, I just genuinely don't know. I've also heard that you need to use more spices etc as they can mitigate the flavour somewhat.... so cost is interesting....?

Re kids. That's what the freezer is for... home made food made in batches ready and waiting, just needs warming through.

I have the Panasonic one they are raving about and it it is still shit bread from it

I have no idea how anyone can think that output is great nbread

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I've always had good results with a cast iron casserole in a very low oven.

Those of you who aren’t getting nice bread out of the Panasonic bread makers, are you using strong flour and decent yeast? Without any effort we seem to get good loaves out of it.

Our bread maker came from Lidl or Aldi, I can't remember which, and it makes smashing loaves of bread using a pizza dough recipe. It took a bit of trial and error buggering about with different flours and recipes to get there though.

edit- it's nice being woken up by the smell of fresh bread too.

Growing up I've seen / use cast iron in Agas as well as slow cookers. Results-wise I think Dutch ovens are a little better but the ease of using a slow cooker is fantastic. Coming home to cooked food and a great smell is awesome. Pressure cookers are somewhere between the two wrt results.

All 3 have their place and all 3 are worth owning.

Breadmakers are fine for a month or two, gather dust for a year or 2 and are then sold.

Do think about getting an Instantpot. The best of all worlds (except bread).

My Mum produces excellent bread from her machine, including crust! She has had a lot of practice though and it has taken plenty of experimentation to achieve the best results.
It's also cheaper to just buy bread.
I don't bother with one.
Slow cooker on the other hand I use all the time. Chuck ingredients in, return to delicious meal. What's not to like?

If it's cheaper to buy bread than make your own you're doing it wrong.
Good Organic flour is about a quid a kilo of you but it in bulk. Yeast is about 50p for loads. Pinch of salt, wadge of butter/oil if you want it super soft, and some water.
Even when you add in the cost of electricity with our ancient oven, that's easily less than 70p a loaf.

Even nasty Chorleywood loaves cut with all sorts of crap cost more, let alone stuff that's not horrible.

They are many accusations you can level at home made bread that are true - yes it can be a faff until you find a rhythm that works for you and your equipment, yes cleanup can be messy if your kneading it by hand, yes results can be unpredictable depending on the yeast, temperature, etc, but cost? Nah, not having that one.

Love our slow cooker. Bit of prep the night before, throw all in the slow cooker whilst I’m having breakfast, come home to lovely smelling and tasting food. Lovely.

Even nasty Chorleywood loaves cut with all sorts of crap cost more, let alone stuff that's not horrible.

Not if you buy them in bulk. 😉

Those of you who aren’t getting nice bread out of the Panasonic bread makers, are you using strong flour and decent yeast? Without any effort we seem to get good loaves out of it.

its a fast rise prcess so no time for flavours, the loaf is not big enough, the crust is not correct etc
yes I can make bread just better bread without it

rather buy this bread than bake with a bread maker
http://www.thepolishbakery.co.uk/

Perhaps if you like the chorleywood process they make good loafs but i just dont rate them

Breadmakers don't use the Chorleywood process. Not unless you add a crapload of enzymes and chemicals, anyways.

of course not but they both use a process designed to make bread quickly, rather than taste of something, hence the comparison

The stuff my parents bread maker makes is bland and tasteless. Nice texture but using same ingredients with a cool proof , knock back and second proof produces a much tastier loaf.

Buuuut I've yet to buy anything out a shop(that isn't a bakery) that holds a candle to either method. Incremental gains and all that.

My first non shop bought sourdough was a revelation.

Buy a good bread knife get good at waiting. The wait is worth it.

Well I think I am gonna play with the GF's bread maker but bin the idea of a slow cooker for now - for guy living alone it seems not worth it.

But ice cream makers...

ebygomm -
Why Anything Slow Cookers Can Do, Others Can Do Better

How can I take an article seriously that goes on about Dutch Ovens?

(Plus whoever wrote it, doesn't actually know how to use a slow cooker!)

I love both my slow cooker and my Panasonic bread maker.

On the granary setting its takes 5hrs and makes great bread.

its a fast rise prcess so no time for flavours, the loaf is not big enough, the crust is not correct etc
yes I can make bread just better bread without it

It takes 5 hours and makes 800g loaves.